will the bow and crossbow be a primery

[makomachine 263]

Yes, but this one does wonder if she actually hit anything like that

It's not target shooting for sure, but the end shows the arrow impacts and I'd take it in a fire fight!

[Window Licker 504]

OIC I'm at work so watching youtube is slow and painful I watched enough to get the gist (or so I thought) about where you where going with it.

[kichilron 8550]

It's not target shooting for sure, but the end shows the arrow impacts and I'd take it in a fire fight!

 

 

It was actually quite accurate from what I saw in the end of that video. I was specifically searching for a part where on could see that, as it would be absolutely useless if she couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.

[hombrecz 832]

yea if the walking dead was real Daryl would have died a long time ago.

 

In a land with no law and order one type of individual excels at surviving.

 

I would take a regular remington 700 in .223 any day of the week with a fixed 10x scope and a simple harris bipod.

 

With that weapon you could easily take out other survivors and steal their food and hard work.

 

A crossbow will get you killed.

 

 

What about ammo though? I don't think you would be finding .223 ammo all the time.

With a bit of skill, you could craft passable xbow bolts yourself, even better with bow/arrows.

 

Plus is so friggin stylish to hunt animals or zeds with bow/xbow, once they are in game, I'm gonna test the sheit of them for sure.

 

btw I don't get why AKM was postponed to Q3 (if that roadmap is correct) since it was supposed to be almost finished.

[Snowball (DayZ) 115]

I believe they're still being worked on. They could come along with the AKM and the Walther P38 if we're fortunate enough. :)

Wait what? Walther P38?  :huh:

I'm no bowhunter but it looks kind of like an Excalibur Axiom SMF.

Weight:6.4 lbs

Length: 37-1/8 inches

Width: 35-7/16 inches

So it is 4 inches longer than an M4 Carbine with stock extended (it is also WIDER than an M4 Carbine is long!) and it is heavier as well.

Yup... primary.

Looks awesome! And I agree, if they want to implement a crossbow like that it should be primary. Bow is another case tough.

 

I do not know why people cry for this special weapon. We don't even know how much damage it does since it's a crossbow that uses bolts.

Let's hope they implement explosive bolts as well!

jk  :P 

[makomachine 263]

I don't want to get in a semantics debate, but for those that don't know, crossbows in the modern era shoot arrows, not bolts.

[Snowball (DayZ) 115]

I don't want to get in a semantics debate, but for those that don't know, crossbows in the modern era shoot arrows, not bolts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quarrel

I know wikipedia isn't 100% trustworthy but that seems pretty straightforward to me.

[hombrecz 832]

I don't want to get in a semantics debate, but for those that don't know, crossbows in the modern era shoot arrows, not bolts.

 

Not sure you are totally correct. Atleast not as per this article:

 

Technically, either term is correct, he says. Most people still call them bolts, but more and more crossbow enthusiasts seem to be calling them arrows.

 

source http://www.outdoorlife.com/blogs/master-class/2013/06/bolts-or-arrows-which-correct-crossbows

 

edit: but yeah, they are more like arrows :)

Edited March 29, 2014 by Hombre

[hannibaldaplaya 1095]

yea if the walking dead was real Daryl would have died a long time ago.

 

In a land with no law and order one type of individual excels at surviving.

 

I would take a regular remington 700 in .223 any day of the week with a fixed 10x scope and a simple harris bipod.

 

With that weapon you could easily take out other survivors and steal their food and hard work.

 

A crossbow will get you killed.

Though I agree he should have died a long time ago,

 

I don't think him using a crossbow should determine this.

 

All weapons have their pros and cons. A crossbow does not mean certain death. It has its advantages, which is being quiet, and being able to retrieve ammunition if you track down where it hit.

 

It isn't necessarily as effective against other survivors as a sniper rifle or an assault rifle, but it has its advantages against zombies and unaware survivors.

 

It is also a unique weapon, and in a game like DayZ, some players will just pick certain weapons to mix things up and have some fun. The crossbow will be something I grab not because I think it will be reliable and versatile in combat, but because it will be something and different to use then, say, an M4A1 or an AKM.

[makomachine 263]

Not sure you are totally correct. Atleast not as per this article:

 

Technically, either term is correct, he says. Most people still call them bolts, but more and more crossbow enthusiasts seem to be calling them arrows.

 

source http://www.outdoorlife.com/blogs/master-class/2013/06/bolts-or-arrows-which-correct-crossbows

 

edit: but yeah, they are more like arrows :)

I'm just trying to save people grief if they stumble into the crossbow version of clip vs magazine. It's a heated topic at times - call them sharp pointy sticks as far as I'm concerned! :)

[Weedz 1105]

Though I agree he should have died a long time ago,

 

I don't think him using a crossbow should determine this.

 

All weapons have their pros and cons. A crossbow does not mean certain death. It has its advantages, which is being quiet, and being able to retrieve ammunition if you track down where it hit.

 

It isn't necessarily as effective against other survivors as a sniper rifle or an assault rifle, but it has its advantages against zombies and unaware survivors.

 

It is also a unique weapon, and in a game like DayZ, some players will just pick certain weapons to mix things up and have some fun. The crossbow will be something I grab not because I think it will be reliable and versatile in combat, but because it will be something and different to use then, say, an M4A1 or an AKM.

I'll take a silenced pistol that you don't need to take 30 seconds reloading after every shot any day. You also don't need to go retrieve your ammo because you can carry around a box of 5000 rounds and like 6 mags to refill.

 

Even in the show Daryl would have been dead long ago if people with silenced pistols hadn't came and saved him when he's standing there trying to pull a bolt out of a zombies head that's stuck as there's 5 others zombies right there.

Edited March 29, 2014 by Weedz

[makomachine 263]

I'll take a silenced pistol that you don't need to take 30 seconds reloading after every shot any day. You also don't need to go retrieve your ammo because you can carry around a box of 5000 rounds and like 6 mags to refill.

 

Even in the show Daryl would have been dead long ago if people with silenced pistols hadn't came and saved him when he's standing there trying to pull a bolt out of a zombies head that's stuck as there's 5 others zombies right there.

 

Anybody that has ever killed a deer with a crossbow will tell you - there isn't any 'yanking an arrow' out of a skull or big bone.  Just wouldn't happen period.  Also, reload times on a crossbow drawing 125 lbs., are a lot slower than just grab the string and yank.  Crossbow is a one shot weapon in a survival situation - its also bulkier than it looks and would be a pain to tote around.  Not hating on Daryl, as he's one of my favorites, just saying it isn't realistic.

 

A fine longbow, recurve, or Turkish bow on the other hand is a different story.  You can get quite good with that weapon up close and shoot small objects while moving with some practice.  No need to aim - just look where you want to shoot, draw, and release.  Its beautiful really... in a wickedly destructive way...

Edited March 29, 2014 by makomachine

[ptk (DayZ) 178]

I'll take a silenced pistol that you don't need to take 30 seconds reloading after every shot any day. You also don't need to go retrieve your ammo because you can carry around a box of 5000 rounds and like 6 mags to refill.

Even in the show Daryl would have been dead long ago if people with silenced pistols hadn't came and saved him when he's standing there trying to pull a bolt out of a zombies head that's stuck as there's 5 others zombies right there.

I agree that in the show, the crossbow wielding daryl is pretty gimmicky, if there were to be a real zombie apocolypse, the crossbow would still be extremely useful, having the ability to quietly hunt animals without wasting precious ammo.

But ingame? For people that want to handicap themselves, whether for a challenge, stupidity, lulz etc...

But then again, it might depend on how scarce they end up making guns and ammo when the game is released...

Edited March 29, 2014 by ptk

[discipled 63]

yea if the walking dead was real Daryl would have died a long time ago.

 

In a land with no law and order one type of individual excels at surviving.

 

I would take a regular remington 700 in .223 any day of the week with a fixed 10x scope and a simple harris bipod.

 

With that weapon you could easily take out other survivors and steal their food and hard work.

 

A crossbow will get you killed.

You didn't think this through. First off the sound would attract every from other survivors to bandits and even worse massive hordes of zombies your .223 wouldn't be able to deal with. In TWD the masses of zombies are in the hundreds. Daryl survives because he his exceptional at being stealthy, quick thinking, and rugged. He was made for the zombie apocalypse. In the real world you can't snipe someone and except to be able to loot their bodies in peace, you can't snipe from a roof top and expect to survive there because you'll run out of food and water even though you're barricaded. Shooting a gun would only be as a final option as it would draw agro from zombies.

[Weedz 1105]

You didn't think this through. First off the sound would attract every from other survivors to bandits and even worse massive hordes of zombies your .223 wouldn't be able to deal with. In TWD the masses of zombies are in the hundreds. Daryl survives because he his exceptional at being stealthy, quick thinking, and rugged. He was made for the zombie apocalypse. In the real world you can't snipe someone and except to be able to loot their bodies in peace, you can't snipe from a roof top and expect to survive there because you'll run out of food and water even though you're barricaded. Shooting a gun would only be as a final option as it would draw agro from zombies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suppressor

 

 

If someone like Daryl came and tried to join my zombie survival group I would laugh at him .... then shoot him in the face, take his stuff, and throw his X-bow in the garbage. Daryl survives because the non-retarded-inbred-mountain people with guns save his ass 24/7 when he get's himself into situations caused by his poor choice of weapon.

Edited March 29, 2014 by Weedz

[jayleann 143]

If someone like Daryl came and tried to join my zombie survival group I would laugh at him ....

 

Me not. Not because he is "cool" or something but because he is tough and kind (in his own way) at the same time. He is a true survivalist and I don't think the series shows completely how much you can learn from a guy like him in terms of survival.

[hombrecz 832]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suppressor

 

 

If someone like Daryl came and tried to join my zombie survival group I would laugh at him .... then shoot him in the face, take his stuff, and throw his X-bow in the garbage. Daryl survives because the non-retarded-inbred-mountain people with guns save his ass 24/7 when he get's himself into situations caused by his poor choice of weapon.

 

Heh lest all argue about fictional zombie apocalypse and how we would be all great at surviving it.

Anyway I love how you are acting all tough and ruthless, please do continue, we all need forum badasses !

[Weedz 1105]

Heh lest all argue about fictional zombie apocalypse and how we would be all great at surviving it.

Anyway I love how you are acting all tough and ruthless, please do continue, we all need forum badasses !

And here I thought we were talking about a television show on TV known as AMC's The Walking Dead ...

 

Please do continue having horrible reading comprehension and insulting others because of it, we all need forum illiterates.

Edited March 29, 2014 by Weedz

[antonioajc 500]

Wait what? Walther P38?  :huh:

 

Yeah, Chris Torchia gave a teaser of a model, people guessed it was part of the P38, a gun the man himself said he wanted it some time ago. He later confirmed it. You can probably see the exchanges of this on twitter.

 

 

AKM lead off Q3 slide -'think they'll be earlier based on roadmap presentation

Dunno, I mean, the model with textures seems to be done already as shown by previous teasers (The model only) and Hall's speech at Rezzed showing it having textures on the slides.

Edited March 29, 2014 by AntonioAJC

[ptk (DayZ) 178]

The cheesiest moment in daryls walking dead career thus far has to be when he was manfighting a tank and two people fifteen feet away. Apparently amc is super concerned about their redneck demographic...

[gibonez 3633]

What about ammo though? I don't think you would be finding .223 ammo all the time.

With a bit of skill, you could craft passable xbow bolts yourself, even better with bow/arrows.

 

Plus is so friggin stylish to hunt animals or zeds with bow/xbow, once they are in game, I'm gonna test the sheit of them for sure.

 

btw I don't get why AKM was postponed to Q3 (if that roadmap is correct) since it was supposed to be almost finished.

 

 

Yea you would man.

 

Especially in Georgia where the walking dead takes place.

 

Beauty of a Remington 700 is since its a bolt action a good one at that, it can take the higher pressures of a 5.56 nato round even though its chambered for .223.

 

Finding mil surp ammo in the hundreds of rounds at a time, finding hunters ammo stashes, recreational shooters stashes would be easy.

 

There would be more ammo than you could carry

[applejaxc 2500]

It would make more sense if the quiver could be worn like the pistol holster.

 

It would make sense, yes-I'm not denying that. I was going based off the fact that in the mod, the quiver was an inventory item-but with the new system, you're probably right.

[pacific_coast 632]

it will be a primary, most likely

 

don't get your hopes up for features like slinging it around yourself or putting it in a pack

[Weedz 1105]

Now that I think about it I would say Xbow is gonna be primary but I really think a Bow might go into your melee slot and a quiver would just be just an item like clips are or maybe go where Vests/ holsters go and arrows are stack-able items?

Edited March 29, 2014 by Weedz

[pacific_coast 632]

The cheesiest moment in daryls walking dead career thus far has to be when he was manfighting a tank and two people fifteen feet away. Apparently amc is super concerned about their redneck demographic...

IF DARYL DIES WE RIOT

 

this is established!

 

re: bows:

 

quiver needs to take melee back space

bow needs to be slung across the body so you can still shoulder a rifle

all arrows should be retrieveable and upgradeable.

 

i still want my steel bodkin bolt tips/arrowheads

Edited March 29, 2014 by pacific_coast