Etherimp 1323 Posted March 23, 2014 Yeah I agree. I think we'd all be better off without Early Access games. Sure we get to play them early, but developers get exemption from criticism, exemption from having to pay people to test the game (they managed to con people into doing the opposite, which is a sly move on their part), exemption from having to finish a game before it becomes an earner (another sly move which could bite gamers in the arse). Sorry for being off topic, just fancied a rant. Here's the thing... ...YOU agree to spending your money on an early access Alpha. If I started an Early Access Alpha because I had an idea for a game, you know how much money I would make? NONE.. because the market has no confidence in my ability to make a video game. My game would never get finished (or started), I'd make no money, and anyone who was stupid enough to invest in me would lose money for being stupid. DayZ is being developed by Rocket and Bohemia.. These companies have a reputation and people know that they can make successful and/or good/quality games. This means that people invested their dollar based on their confidence. If you lack confidence or are opposed to forking over money for an unfinished product, then nobody is forcing you to. For you to come to forums complaining about it is just childish. Some companies do early access and fail. .Their game goes down the drain and the community gets pissed that they spent money on an early access game. At least Bohemia/Rocket is still making leaps and bounds on the game and they are (as of the time I post this), following through with their promises of improving the game. I've put over 300 hours into DayZ, and I spent 30 dollars on it. What other entertainment medium can you get such high ratios of dollar per hour enjoyment? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yorkmorgan 191 Posted March 23, 2014 just my opinion, but I'm confused by all the complaints that the zombie run animation is janky. I think they've done a really good job on it; it looks realistic, smooth and scary. It doesn't look alpha or placeholder atall. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doctorbadsign 645 Posted March 23, 2014 Here's the thing... ...YOU agree to spending your money on an early access Alpha. If I started an Early Access Alpha because I had an idea for a game, you know how much money I would make? NONE.. because the market has no confidence in my ability to make a video game. My game would never get finished (or started), I'd make no money, and anyone who was stupid enough to invest in me would lose money for being stupid. DayZ is being developed by Rocket and Bohemia.. These companies have a reputation and people know that they can make successful and/or good/quality games. This means that people invested their dollar based on their confidence. If you lack confidence or are opposed to forking over money for an unfinished product, then nobody is forcing you to. For you to come to forums complaining about it is just childish. Some companies do early access and fail. .Their game goes down the drain and the community gets pissed that they spent money on an early access game. At least Bohemia/Rocket is still making leaps and bounds on the game and they are (as of the time I post this), following through with their promises of improving the game. I've put over 300 hours into DayZ, and I spent 30 dollars on it. What other entertainment medium can you get such high ratios of dollar per hour enjoyment? I know we agree to purchase Early Access games. My point is that there shouldn't really be the option to. In what other business can you get someone to pay for something unfinished without any guarantee that it will ever be finished or that when it is finished it will be what you wanted when you paid for it? People should know that they are paying for something unfinished yes, and should therefore take this into account when complaining, however, my concerns about Early Access do not come from this. We'll use DayZ as an example (without saying any of this will actually happen of course), suppose that BI decided that it was no longer viable to carry on the development of DayZ because they spent all the money and no one is buying it anymore. Suppose DayZ winds up totally different to how it was first advertised when you bought it, say it suddenly introduces pay to win elements or something. There is no guarantee that any of this won't happen. And these kinds of things might be impossible for the consumer to predict when purchasing the Early Access title. For this reason I think we'd be better off without Early Access games. I don't think these things will happen to DayZ, but as I've said before, the Early Access program is wide open to scams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Etherimp 1323 Posted March 23, 2014 I know we agree to purchase Early Access games. My point is that there shouldn't really be the option to. In what other business can you get someone to pay for something unfinished without any guarantee that it will ever be finished or that when it is finished it will be what you wanted when you paid for it? People should know that they are paying for something unfinished yes, and should therefore take this into account when complaining, however, my concerns about Early Access do not come from this. We'll use DayZ as an example (without saying any of this will actually happen of course), suppose that BI decided that it was no longer viable to carry on the development of DayZ because they spent all the money and no one is buying it anymore. Suppose DayZ winds up totally different to how it was first advertised when you bought it, say it suddenly introduces pay to win elements or something. There is no guarantee that any of this won't happen. And these kinds of things might be impossible for the consumer to predict when purchasing the Early Access title. For this reason I think we'd be better off without Early Access games. I don't think these things will happen to DayZ, but as I've said before, the Early Access program is wide open to scams. There are a lot of other businesses where people pay for something unfinished. What do you think investors are? If any of those scenarios happened to DayZ, you would still have no right to complain. You're not paying for a finished game. You paid 30 dollars for an ALPHA game.. You got exactly what was advertised. There was never any guarantee that the game would ever be finished or that you would ever get your monies worth. When you purchased DayZ through steam you agreed to that. If you don't think Early Access should exist, then why are you here, playing an early access game? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathlove 2286 Posted March 23, 2014 The zombies are easy my friend.. take a break, regroup and go back and try again later. Better luck next time :)Fuck i wish they would look more like that...... Well the current models they have are fine but more undead variety like that would be great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OrLoK 16186 Posted March 23, 2014 Good grief people, just report Rant threads. Dont clutter up the forum by ranting back. Rant post is ranty Closing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
