Dooms_Day (DayZ) 8 Posted March 15, 2014 Hey! i'd like to see buttstock cartridge holders made into the game to make some shortcuts and also to act as a seperate storage container. I'd like to see it mainly to speed up reloading so you can hit "R" or other hotkey instead of drag and dropping it into your gun. The holder will hold 10 rounds if rifle ammo or say 6 or 8 for shotgun. Once emptied out, you will have to manually drag drop ammo back into your gun or after a fight reload the holder for the quick reload. Thoughts on it? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
applejaxc 2500 Posted March 16, 2014 For the Mosin, it would be a 5-round stripper clip, not a cartridge holster. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dooms_Day (DayZ) 8 Posted March 16, 2014 For the Mosin, it would be a 5-round stripper clip, not a cartridge holster. there could be stripper clips added, but thats not what i'm suggesting, google Mosin Nagant buttstock shell holder or cartridge holder or pouch or something similar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dchil 829 Posted March 16, 2014 For the Mosin, it would be a 5-round stripper clip, not a cartridge holster.There are guys i know who run a cartridge holder on their SMLEs when hunting. They don't bother with stripper clips and it's simpler to have the ammo on the gun and a box more in their backpack/car. Don't see why it would be any different for a Mosin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zuulass 45 Posted March 16, 2014 yes i love themthey make guns look cooler Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darksteeljorge 96 Posted March 16, 2014 as well as belt holders 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
applejaxc 2500 Posted March 16, 2014 There are guys i know who run a cartridge holder on their SMLEs when hunting. They don't bother with stripper clips and it's simpler to have the ammo on the gun and a box more in their backpack/car. Don't see why it would be any different for a Mosin. The game takes place in Chernarus, not the western world. I said stripper clips because that is what the Russian military (the propagators of the Mosin Nagant) used. 7.62x31 stripper clips would be a lot easier to find than anything else. Sorry for wanting realism >.> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zuulass 45 Posted March 16, 2014 The game takes place in Chernarus, not the western world. I said stripper clips because that is what the Russian military (the propagators of the Mosin Nagant) used. 7.62x31 stripper clips would be a lot easier to find than anything else. Sorry for wanting realism >.>theres the clip for the sks already so for the mosin surebut you can load the gun without it (even if in the game you dont have a clip you use one anyways)making it easier to get to the rounds like a belt or stock bullet holder would be nice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
applejaxc 2500 Posted March 16, 2014 theres the clip for the sks already so for the mosin sure The point of a stripper clip is to load quickly; I know you can load without one. >.> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zuulass 45 Posted March 16, 2014 The point of a stripper clip is to load quickly; I know you can load without one. >.>yeah but whats the problem with the bullet holder? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
applejaxc 2500 Posted March 16, 2014 yeah but whats the problem with the bullet holder? A stripper clip for a Mosin would be faster and more readily available? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zuulass 45 Posted March 16, 2014 A stripper clip for a Mosin would be faster and more readily available?but a stock bullet holder could be put on any rifle with a stockso you could have both 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AP_Norris 1018 Posted March 16, 2014 A stripper clip for a Mosin would be faster and more readily available?That doesn't make a stock bandolier any less viable, that's like saying, why add iron sights when everybody is going to have a PU/ red dot sight is better.It's just the inbetween.I think normal loading needs to be much much slower aswell, also make mag/ stripper clip loading time consuming. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dvsilverwing 241 Posted March 16, 2014 A stripper clip for a Mosin would be faster and more readily available? The game takes place in Chernarus, not the western world. I said stripper clips because that is what the Russian military (the propagators of the Mosin Nagant) used. 7.62x31 stripper clips would be a lot easier to find than anything else. Sorry for wanting realism >.> Most owners of Mosin Nagants are Civillians, and probably 90% of the owners of Mosin Nagants that I know don't own stripper clips for them. And if you're going to be a realism nazi for the Nagant you should make having it chambered in 7.62x54r instead of 7.62x51 your priority. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
applejaxc 2500 Posted March 16, 2014 Most owners of Mosin Nagants are Civillians, and probably 90% of the owners of Mosin Nagants that I know don't own stripper clips for them. And if you're going to be a realism nazi for the Nagant you should make having it chambered in 7.62x54r instead of 7.62x51 your priority. 1. Yes, 7.62x54r should be a separate ammunition type. Russia and the United States has gone through so many choices in ammunition in the last 60 years that it's hard to remember exactly what uses what without googling.2. Because stripper clips are unpopular in the western world, but there's an overabundance of them in former Soviet states. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dchil 829 Posted March 16, 2014 (edited) 1. Yes, 7.62x54r should be a separate ammunition type. Russia and the United States has gone through so many choices in ammunition in the last 60 years that it's hard to remember exactly what uses what without googling.2. Because stripper clips are unpopular in the western world, but there's an overabundance of them in former Soviet states.I'm just going to settle this argument because it just occurred to me that this picture makes the best sense. Edited March 16, 2014 by Dchil 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickenbacker 190 Posted March 16, 2014 The game takes place in Chernarus, not the western world. I said stripper clips because that is what the Russian military (the propagators of the Mosin Nagant) used. 7.62x31 stripper clips would be a lot easier to find than anything else. Sorry for wanting realism >.> You misunderstood the suggestion. The OP wants the ability to store a few rounds (5-10) in a pouch on the buttstock, which is something you can add to many rifles in the real world. And of course we need stripper clips for the Mosin. As well as the ability to load it one round at a time (which you currently can't do without emptying the entire magazine first). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OrLoK 16186 Posted March 16, 2014 Hows this for a compromise? http://www.strikehardgear.com/mosin-nagant-buttstock-pouch/ L 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HazZarD87 166 Posted March 16, 2014 (edited) Hows this for a compromise? http://www.strikehardgear.com/mosin-nagant-buttstock-pouch/ LLooking good there Lok. You could add stuff like this for many weapons. Not uncommon to see on an M16 for example either. http://www.brownells.com/userdocs/products/l_100002839_1.jpg Or even with the telescoping buttstock on the M4 http://www.militaryuniformsupply.com/files/ma59-008-condor-multicam-m4-buttstock-magazine-pouch.jpg Edited March 16, 2014 by HazZarD87 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
applejaxc 2500 Posted March 16, 2014 You misunderstood the suggestion. The OP wants the ability to store a few rounds (5-10) in a pouch on the buttstock, which is something you can add to many rifles in the real world.Yeah. I figured that out a bit late. But I don't think it's a necessary idea; if he wants an ability to reload on "R," it should be with magazines, not with a pouch on his gun. Regardless, there should never be an r to reload in DayZ, or scroll-to-reload; you should have to go into your inventory, find a magazine, slide that over to your gun and swap magazines out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickenbacker 190 Posted March 16, 2014 I didn't think the OP meant it would make reloads faster, just a way to carry a few extra rounds without taking up space in the bag... I don't think it WOULD make reloads much faster in real life either, compared to say keeping a few rounds in your pocket. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JKS-Alex 79 Posted March 16, 2014 (edited) Actually will be more useful for the shotgun that has only 2 round, i think in game it can work like combined magazine for the M4 (that actually are irrealistic too cause you simply get 60 bullets and not a fast reload after the first 30 r.nds has been shooted) Edited March 16, 2014 by JKS-Alex Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dooms_Day (DayZ) 8 Posted March 16, 2014 The suggestion wasn't to make the character reload the gun any faster, it was so that you could use the R shortcut for the reloading like the m4 if any ammo is available in the holder. The holder or holders if you want to see each gun have its own holder would allow a cosmetic change to your rifle (or shotty!) aswell as storage so you can keep your ammo in a can. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HazZarD87 166 Posted March 18, 2014 I didn't think the OP meant it would make reloads faster, just a way to carry a few extra rounds without taking up space in the bag... I don't think it WOULD make reloads much faster in real life either, compared to say keeping a few rounds in your pocket. Well believe me, those rounds on the stock are gonna be in your weapon quite a bit faster than when you have them in a pocket or pouch. Especially if you are prone or kneeling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites