Do You Belive Players Who Shot Unarmed And Friendly Fresh Spawns Are Bad?

[doctorwhy 157]

For fun this weekend we ran naked in Elektro and it really is shoot anything that moves there.  

Just to shoot something. No purpose.  Not for loot, not for anything other than watching death.

 

Nobody Comes out of their hiding spots and waits for some unsuspecting person to come to where they are.  There is hardly any movement anywhere.

They also think it's "smart" to close the doors of building their in as people will think it's not looted. Yeah noobs will go but Pros don't. it's a sure sign somebody is in there especially in Elektro.

 

We literally ran around the streets for 20 minutes non stop and took fire from all over and only got hit a few times from people who could aim.  I literally starved to death one run without anyone hitting me but they all kept shooting.

[1S1K-Airborne 148]

I don't spend much time along the coast, usually I gear up along the western side then patrol the berenzino area, but whenever I spawn along the coast and travel through Electro I always encounter those players who feel the need to shoot anyhting and everything unarmed. Do you feel that players who do this are bad so to speak or just using a playstyle?

Story: While looting electro waiting for my buddies I ran into an armed fellow. I introduced myself and showed him my camp fire (gas canister with gas stove). He keeps pointing a gun at me but isn't barking orders, I told him my buddy was just entering the town and I would be taking off to meet him. I grab my gas canister and as I begin walking BANG I'm dead. Like HerrJon said I think it's just a shifty play style, but it's a pathetic play style.

 

Welcome to the Deathmatch Permadeath KOS Standalone.

 

You might as well shoot everyone on sight.  There's no benefit not to do it.  If you don't do it, you'll end up dying a lot.

 

They should implement a humanity system like the one in my signature below, that would at least BALANCE out the hero vs KOS bandit gameplay.

[Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036]

Welcome to the Deathmatch Permadeath KOS Standalone.

 

You might as well shoot everyone on sight.  There's no benefit not to do it.  If you don't do it, you'll end up dying a lot.

 

They should implement a humanity system like the one in my signature below, that would at least BALANCE out the hero vs KOS bandit gameplay.

Dude, just shut up and stop spamming every thread with your worthless humanity system.

[dayy 173]

Honestly, KOSing doesn't mean your bad, yes generally the COD kiddies whom KOS can't shoot for shit suck. But, if you KOS it means either you lack creativity, you enjoy watching others die/bathing in their blood, or you have hit the breaking point and don't trust anyone (generally solo runners) My tip to KOSers, try playing a Medic, Hero etc. Find a group and roll with them, explore all aspects of DayZ. That's what I'm doing, I have played ther Hero/Medic, KOS, and right now I'm playing as an enforcer of communism :D next will be holdup bandit.

[herrjon 478]

Welcome to the Deathmatch Permadeath KOS Standalone.

You might as well shoot everyone on sight. There's no benefit not to do it. If you don't do it, you'll end up dying a lot.

They should implement a humanity system like the one in my signature below, that would at least BALANCE out the hero vs KOS bandit gameplay.

I have not shot/attacked anyone much less kill anyone; also been healing and helping and the only time I've "died" is when they wiped the database a bit after launch. KOS is just a play style. Your mortality rate is totally up to you.

And no on the humanity system. No matter what you do it's going to be bad. Let people's actions show, not throw them into an arbitrary group.

[HazZarD87 166]

Yeah it's actually more fun to put em up against the wall, cuff 'm bag' m and make them drink alcohol tincture.. or use them as a pinata for a couple of groupmates with baseball bats.

[pillock 850]

I don't think KoS players really give a toss whether or not they're ruining someone's day.

 

They have guns: they want to shoot stuff. They don't see you as a player, they see you as a target. It doesn't matter if you're geared up or if you're an obvious bambi. You are in their gun sight, and they will take the shot.

 

I generally think that 'justifications' such as, "They might gear up later", "they might sneak up on me", "they might be a bandit looking for quick loot", etc. are just excuses. There's no moral justification for it one way or the other - a kill is a kill is a kill. And that's what they're playing for. The more you shoot, the better you get at shooting: they're just practicing the game the way they want to play it.

 

I think they do the game a service, personally. They keep the rest of us on our toes.

[real meatshield 424]

Welcome to the Deathmatch Permadeath KOS Standalone.

 

You might as well shoot everyone on sight.  There's no benefit not to do it.  If you don't do it, you'll end up dying a lot.

 

They should implement a humanity system like the one in my signature below, that would at least BALANCE out the hero vs KOS bandit gameplay.

jesus h fucking christ, will you piss off about humanity already?

[Demoth 366]

Welcome to the Deathmatch Permadeath KOS Standalone.

You might as well shoot everyone on sight. There's no benefit not to do it. If you don't do it, you'll end up dying a lot.

They should implement a humanity system like the one in my signature below, that would at least BALANCE out the hero vs KOS bandit gameplay.

They don't need to balance it because it's not a problem if you know how to play.

Edit - Why not adapt to the world you live in, rather than trying to conform the world to you?

Edited March 11, 2014 by Demoth

[execpro22 128]

^ Pretty big wall of text that completely missed the point. The topic isn't about a probable combatant running around you in a firefight, trying to knock you out or relay your position to his buddies, or even the KOS gunplay argument that you pulled out of thin air.

 

Its about the people and groups that walk about the coast (or hide in the trees with a high powered rifle) gunning down fresh spawns for shits and giggles. It literally takes no more skill than basic motor function and hand eye coordination to shoot these players.

 

 

And?

[cels 43]

I dont necessarily say they are bad so to speak. They represent the harshness that you may experience in DayZ..

I bet you learn and will adapt from the experience and are a bit more cautious in the future. These players are needed in the game just as much as those that play purely as medics, or those willing to toss a can of beans or a handgun to those in need. Likewise as well the ones who will just sit and watch as youre chased by a few zombies.

Theres a order to the chaos... Everybody plays their part.

[HazZarD87 166]

I dont necessarily say they are bad so to speak. They represent the harshness that you may experience in DayZ..

I bet you learn and will adapt from the experience and are a bit more cautious in the future. These players are needed in the game just as much as those that play purely as medics, or those willing to toss a can of beans or a handgun to those in need. Likewise as well the ones who will just sit and watch as youre chased by a few zombies.

Theres a order to the chaos... Everybody plays their part.

Ah now there's another good one.. you can help out with that zombie chase. Help the zombies catch dinner by shooting it in the legs B)

[nimmerzz 17]

Yes, the point of this game is survival. If you are actively hunting other people who dont pose a threat then you are just being an asshole. Ive seen people gun down bambi's as they enter a buidling with a lot of loot. You could argue that them taking the loot is a matter of survival and you eliminate the competition. But ive been shot outside of Elektro in a field by a guy who was stalking me. So clearly just a guy who wants to kill.

 

That being said, I think having those guys out there make the game better. You really have to be careful. You dont know what to expect when you run into someone out there. 

[execpro22 128]

 If you are actively hunting other people who dont pose a threat then you are just being an asshole.

 

 

No such thing as "dont pose a threat"

 

 

You know as well as I do that a bambi can knock out a fully geared player just as easily as he can be taken down. Every player is a threat whether you want to beleive it or not...

[Very Ape 748]

I let my gun be the judge of such as them. 

 

It's surprising how many friendly encounters you'll find yourself in if you just stay out of sight, and approach players on your own terms. Watch them from a distance, or wait for them outside of a building they're looting and make your presence known. 

 

If you mindlessly bolt around a city and find yourself face to face with someone, one of you is probably going to get shot. 

 

Playing on hardcore will also save you lots of pain.

[BestDayEver 8]

We are not bad people, we are just playing a game - And its a manhunt!

I have not been outside Elektro the last weeks, because this is where it's fun to be. We kill everything we see, it doesent matter if you are fully geared or not, its just the pure fun of killing another player.
As a group of 5-6 players camping together, its always a joyfull laughter in our Teamspeak for every kill we make.

We even group up with others, connect and fool em`. Let us be friendly for 10-15 mins then just turn our backs and go for the headshot. And just waiting for the sound:

"Aaw dude, its me!!" -Yes I know, deal with it.

 

[makomachine 263]

We are not bad people, we are just playing a game - And its a manhunt!

I have not been outside Elektro the last weeks, because this is where it's fun to be. We kill everything we see, it doesent matter if you are fully geared or not, its just the pure fun of killing another player.

As a group of 5-6 players camping together, its always a joyfull laughter in our Teamspeak for every kill we make.

We even group up with others, connect and fool em`. Let us be friendly for 10-15 mins then just turn our backs and go for the headshot. And just waiting for the sound:

"Aaw dude, its me!!" -Yes I know, deal with it.

Nothing about this screams 'Zombie Survival Game'. That's why I bought it and its a long ways from it obviously. I'd rather play Titanfall for my KOS fun - but even then, I like a team environment. Something about the free for all mindset that is just not appealing to me personally. Carry on however as it is 'do what you like'...

[Demoth 366]

Nothing about this screams 'Zombie Survival Game'. That's why I bought it and its a long ways from it obviously. I'd rather play Titanfall for my KOS fun - but even then, I like a team environment. Something about the free for all mindset that is just not appealing to me personally. Carry on however as it is 'do what you like'...

While I do enjoy shootouts in this game and the looong stalking / hunting / waiting games you have to play to get action, it's not what I want the final game to be.

My biggest fear is that once they implement more environmental and AI zombie threats that make it REALLY impractical and hard to just roll through cities and gun fight, or sit on hills for hours and snipe, the strictly PVP KOS crowd will start throwing a bitch fit and BI will cater to them.

KOS and banditry are important to keep this game tense, but once you get gun and have explored the whole map, there is little else to do.

[Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036]

While I do enjoy shootouts in this game and the looong stalking / hunting / waiting games you have to play to get action, it's not what I want the final game to be.

My biggest fear is that once they implement more environmental and AI zombie threats that make it REALLY impractical and hard to just roll through cities and gun fight, or sit on hills for hours and snipe, the strictly PVP KOS crowd will start throwing a bitch fit and BI will cater to them.

KOS and banditry are important to keep this game tense, but once you get gun and have explored the whole map, there is little else to do.

I only see this happening "after" Dean leaves but I agree with you. 

[herrjon 478]

No such thing as "dont pose a threat"

 

 

You know as well as I do that a bambi can knock out a fully geared player just as easily as he can be taken down. Every player is a threat whether you want to beleive it or not...

 

That awkward moment when you throw on a motorcycle helmet and see how much of a "threat" they really are.

[over9000nukez 199]

It's just a playstyle, a quite boring and cowardly one, but a playstyle none the less.

 

They can get their kicks and I'll laugh as I watch them get taken out by a guy with a pipe wrench because they can't hit the broad side of a firestation.

[execpro22 128]

That awkward moment when you throw on a motorcycle helmet and see how much of a "threat" they really are.

 

That awkward moment when that "bambi" that you left alone because you thought he "posed no threat" pulls out a concealed magnum and ends your play session for the night.....

[Pandema 352]

Never trust a freshie.

 

Fists are surprisingly dangerous and a loaded Magnum only takes 4 slots. I've had enough experiences with both to just stay away from the coasts, if one of my buddies needs help after spawning he can hike north to meet me.

[pacific_coast 632]

everyone should shoot fresh spawns all the time