maxotaur 135 Posted February 28, 2014 Basically i have read tons of comments regarding wanting sniper rifles and the only way i'm sure that this can be balanced and made fun for all players is having to make players find their parts. Such as finding high power springs, recoil stocks and more powerful frames. Finding an AS50 is a load of ass considering it is a 1 hit kill so why should it do that from having to literally do nothing but server hop? It would also make an interesting crafting feature, much like putting a scope on a mosin, and grip to an M4, you should be able to find weapon boxes containing random parts for weapons meaning you can craft weapons that way... perhaps something like adding springs to existing rifles to make a more powerful mosin, or an m16 from an m4 with the required parts. It's really quite a big feature but wouldn't require loads of work considering that crafting already exists!! I just think that finding already over powered weapons is a bit stupid. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samuri_Bake_Pie 96 Posted February 28, 2014 Soon they will implement gun quality again. Then you will need at least a gun cleaning kit to make your rifle functional. Even if its worn at long ranges the aim will be off so you need to hunt for a pristine kit. It's only one item but its a start. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cywehner1234 582 Posted February 28, 2014 Everyone dies practically one hit anyways lmfao. Snipers are so overrated in games and in my honest opinion shouldn't even be in most games. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Princess Dookie 35 Posted February 28, 2014 I support this, partially. I do not think that they should be able to make them any more powerful, just because they are powerful enough at the moment. However, they should be construable by finding different parts. This could lead to a development of a trading system in game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enforcer1975 1111 Posted February 28, 2014 (edited) On 2/28/2014 at 2:27 PM, maxotaur said: perhaps something like adding springs to existing rifles to make a more powerful mosin ...stronger spring...airsoft...Mosin...? Building weapons from parts is fine but imo a bit too "endworldish". I'm pretty sure it can be balanced like in Metro where you can still find "normal" weapons but considering the size of Chernarus, hopping and server restarts weapons are spread too dense. Edited February 28, 2014 by Enforcer 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Princess Dookie 35 Posted February 28, 2014 (edited) On 2/28/2014 at 2:29 PM, AsOiX said: Everyone dies practically one hit anyways lmfao. Snipers are so overrated in games and in my honest opinion shouldn't even be in most games. That is silly. Of course they should be in a game. Using a sniper in DayZ, especially at a range, is quite challenging anyway. Edited February 28, 2014 by Princess Dookie 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
So Sexy 259 Posted February 28, 2014 Just make them rare, no need to start inventing the wheel. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurk-o-vich 25 Posted February 28, 2014 On 2/28/2014 at 2:32 PM, Princess Dookie said: That is silly. Of course they should be in a game. Using a sniper in DayZ, especially at a range, is quite challenging anyway. A buddy and me experienced that it isn't in DayZ standalone. They just shoot a straight line no matter how far the target is - no bullet drop so far? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khad (DayZ) 293 Posted February 28, 2014 I guess, the Craftingidea is okay. It'd be nice, if you'd find just incomplete or damaged weapons in most cases and have to fix them. But you can't really balance weapons.A magnum kills or "stops" with one shot to the chest. Why? Because it does! If you don't want a weapon, which got a really high stopping power, you are not allowed to implement them. But please, let the weapons stay realistic. It's a big core of this whole game. The problem of the mod, where on every server where 50 snipers with a AS50 waiting at the nwaf will be fixed with the hive-economy-system. On all official hives, there will be - for example - just two AS50's for all the players. Because it would be rare and should stay rare. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-MadTommy 367 Posted February 28, 2014 (edited) Quote How to balance sniper rifles. Make the scope sighting realistic. Upon attaching a scope you have to adjust the scope as you would a real one. Make a range and zero it correctly.No military uber sniper rifles, only hunting civilian ones.Make them bloody rare & ammo even rarer. or just remove them entirely! EDIT: Once physics is in.. making a range from cans & bottles would be fun! Edited February 28, 2014 by MadTommy 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Princess Dookie 35 Posted February 28, 2014 On 2/28/2014 at 2:35 PM, Gurk-o-vich said: A buddy and me experienced that it isn't in DayZ standalone. They just shoot a straight line no matter how far the target is - no bullet drop so far? Bullet drop is def. there. Try shooting a target that is far away, without changing the zeroing value Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sencha 100 Posted February 28, 2014 Add proper ballistics and wind. I'd love to see these armchair commandos try to manually adjust for wind that changes midway through their shot. GLHF. You'll never see a single sniper that isn't deadly serious about it. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-MadTommy 367 Posted February 28, 2014 On 2/28/2014 at 2:40 PM, Sencha said: Add proper ballistics and wind. I'd love to see these armchair commandos try to manually adjust for wind that changes midway through their shot. GLHF. You'll never see a single sniper that isn't deadly serious about it. Ballistics & wind have always been in the arma series.. i assume it is still in Dayz.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mdogg2005 447 Posted February 28, 2014 On 2/28/2014 at 2:35 PM, So Sexy said: Just make them rare, no need to start inventing the wheel.Server hoppers called - they want to know what the word "rare" means. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurk-o-vich 25 Posted February 28, 2014 On 2/28/2014 at 2:39 PM, Princess Dookie said: Bullet drop is def. there. Try shooting a target that is far away, without changing the zeroing value Okay, we really didn't notice even on very far distance! That's what was strange to us... But well, if it is there it is just slightly with snipers ;) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
So Sexy 259 Posted February 28, 2014 On 2/28/2014 at 2:42 PM, Mdogg2005 said: Server hoppers called - they want to know what the word "rare" means. Hoppers will be dealt with sooner or later, Im going to play on a private hive anyways. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickenbacker 190 Posted February 28, 2014 On 2/28/2014 at 2:27 PM, maxotaur said: It would also make an interesting crafting feature, much like putting a scope on a mosin, and grip to an M4, you should be able to find weapon boxes containing random parts for weapons meaning you can craft weapons that way... perhaps something like adding springs to existing rifles to make a more powerful mosin, or an m16 from an m4 with the required parts. It's really quite a big feature but wouldn't require loads of work considering that crafting already exists!! Not sure how new springs would make a Mosin "more powerful"? Other than that, finding better parts for your guns is a good idea, and indeed already in place for the M4, so I assume it will be added for most guns. And as far as "sniper rifles" go, finding a high quality hunting rifle and adding a powerful scope to it, would give you one if you really want it. I don't see any reason whatsoever to add extremely specialized military gear like antimateriel rifles to the game at all. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickenbacker 190 Posted February 28, 2014 On 2/28/2014 at 2:46 PM, Gurk-o-vich said: Okay, we really didn't notice even on very far distance! That's what was strange to us... But well, if it is there it is just slightly with snipers ;) The ballistics might not be final, but they're pretty accurate. The bullet drop is the same for all guns (i.e. the same as if you would just drop the bullet from eye height), but you notice it less with higher muzzle velocities. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mdogg2005 447 Posted February 28, 2014 On 2/28/2014 at 2:47 PM, So Sexy said: Hoppers will be dealt with sooner or later, Im going to play on a private hive anyways.Meh they won't need to hop in private hive.. Servers that spawned you in with a full loadout in the mod made me so upset to see. I betcha they'll be here too at some stage. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
So Sexy 259 Posted February 28, 2014 On 2/28/2014 at 3:06 PM, Mdogg2005 said: Meh they won't need to hop in private hive.. Servers that spawned you in with a full loadout in the mod made me so upset to see. I betcha they'll be here too at some stage. Well then we will play on servers that spawn you in with nothin ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Munson_fry (DayZ) 312 Posted February 28, 2014 On 2/28/2014 at 2:35 PM, Gurk-o-vich said: A buddy and me experienced that it isn't in DayZ standalone. They just shoot a straight line no matter how far the target is - no bullet drop so far? excuse me ????? no bullt drop ???? ill guess im the moron here then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Princess Dookie 35 Posted February 28, 2014 On 2/28/2014 at 3:17 PM, Munson_fry said: excuse me ????? no bullt drop ???? ill guess im the moron here then. You are. If you read the post, you would see that he acknowledges that he is "not sure". 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
s32ialx 10 Posted February 28, 2014 can we all just get rambo's composite bow :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HazZarD87 166 Posted February 28, 2014 This thread went wrong the second "balance" was mentioned. I shall simply refer to my sig 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
s32ialx 10 Posted February 28, 2014 (edited) On 2/28/2014 at 3:35 PM, HazZarD87 said: This thread went wrong the second "balance" was mentioned. I shall simply refer to my sig Damn you Blizzard for ruining WoW because of all those damn QQ babies that didn't want to quest to level up nor be social to form a party/raid to actually attempt let alone complete a dungeon! now they have random raids where the bosses are dumbed down morons that are a cake walk to beat and hell very soon you will be able to pay to max level. (no joke item mall pay to max your characters level) Edited February 28, 2014 by s32ialx Share this post Link to post Share on other sites