irishroy 1347 Posted February 27, 2014 Hmwell.So. Now.Gotta a Mosin in my hands, and a B95 on my back.I am stuck between these two guns.(Will give 1 gun + bambi-box to a bambi, or drop it on the coast.) So should i stay with the B95, or keep the Mosin?I am asking myself:Does the B95 deal the same dmg, as the Mosin?It uses the same ammo, and the barrel is a bit shorter, yes. But this little piece wouldn't change anything, IRL, AFAIK. Do you guys know, if the dmg is different? I heard some people saying, that they need 2 shots in CQC, and 4-5 on mid-range (from the B95).Can you confirm or deny this? ;) P.S. I was browsing though the gamefiles (but couldn't read out the infos, just the file-names), and will leave this here 4 u. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
So Sexy 259 Posted February 27, 2014 (edited) Mosin is better, 1 hit to kill. Once hit a guy 2 times from B95, and he managed to escape. Edited February 27, 2014 by So Sexy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
irishroy 1347 Posted February 27, 2014 (edited) yeah, but i think, the B is also a OHK, too (or at least it should be)That's why i#m asking ;) Edited February 27, 2014 by irishroy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
So Sexy 259 Posted February 27, 2014 B95 doesnt kill with one bullet, unless you headshot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pillock 850 Posted February 27, 2014 Why would you saw off a rifle barrel? I don't know much about guns, so... But wouldn't it just ruin accuracy with the only benefit being that it's a bit smaller and more convenient to carry? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
irishroy 1347 Posted February 27, 2014 (edited) how u know? :)Tested on person, gamefile, etc.? I really would like to have a proof.If the bullets travels slower, does less dmg.. Why would you saw off a rifle barrel?But wouldn't it just ruin accuracy with the only benefit being that it's a bit smaller and more convenient to carry?Yes, less acc. and higher recoil (gun weights less, less mass absorbs the energy).But:a: It has the rule of cool.b: Can be carried for a friendly player, friend or bambi. Edited February 27, 2014 by irishroy 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaveMeJebus 164 Posted February 27, 2014 (edited) Why would you saw off a rifle barrel? I don't know much about guns, so... But wouldn't it just ruin accuracy with the only benefit being that it's a bit smaller and more convenient to carry?Yep it would lol .. its all about concealment. But it was defintely done on semi-wide scale in some instances. Just do a google search for the obrez mosin Edited February 27, 2014 by SaveMeJebus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pillock 850 Posted February 27, 2014 So it becomes a sort of big pistol with a bit more punch, maybe? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chekovp 89 Posted February 27, 2014 (edited) Mosin is better, 1 hit to kill. Once hit a guy 2 times from B95, and he managed to escape. B95 doesnt kill with one bullet, unless you headshot. Nothing is a one shot kill in the game and I'm pretty sure its going to stay that way. The only one shot kills out there are headshots from any ballistics weapon. Edit: Personally I prefer to use a sawn off shotgun as a sidearm, I think it would be cool to try a sawn off B95. I also wish you could saw off a shotgun as much as they did in the beginning of the movie Killing Them Softly. Edited February 27, 2014 by ChekovP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
irishroy 1347 Posted February 27, 2014 (edited) or give us the option to saw off different parts.like here: Could maybe look like this: but now that i think about it:The revolver does OHK/unconscious within 1 shot and takes up 2x2.The B will take 1x4, probably, and be a 2 shotkill. So overall, i think i'll still stay with the maggy, instead of sawn off Blaser Edited February 27, 2014 by irishroy 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
So Sexy 259 Posted February 27, 2014 Nothing is a one shot kill in the game and I'm pretty sure its going to stay that way. The only one shot kills out there are headshots from any ballistics weapon.Lol no, mosin 1 shot kills if u hit above the waist... I think even wiki agrees with me, or maybe all the players I killed with mosin were low on blood ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
knifeparty 109 Posted February 27, 2014 I got shot at running into Krasnostav when the over-under's were first implemented. All I had was a single speed loader of two rounds on me. I ran for the schoolhouse type building and found a B95. It seemed like an eternity as I waited for my assailant. Turns out it was two of them (both wearing giant, bright red mountain packs). I see them running south along my west side. As they line up to run into a house, I shoot the first guy in the back and he drops. As the second guy kneels in place, I shoot him in the chest and he also goes down. With little food and gear on my person, I immediately run to the house they were trying to enter. I shut the door. I hear zombie aggro so I pull out my fire axe. low and behold, in walks the second guy I had shot, whom I thought was dead. To his surprise and my chagrin I axe him to death at the feet of his dead friend. I retrieve much loot and haul ass out of town. That was my first experience with the B95. I was surprised seeing as how it was a sub-50m shot and it was the same ammo as the mosin. I expected to drop him in one shot... True story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarkwaveDomina 1099 Posted February 27, 2014 *Licks lips.* Yes please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickenbacker 190 Posted February 27, 2014 Why would you saw off a rifle barrel? I don't know much about guns, so... But wouldn't it just ruin accuracy with the only benefit being that it's a bit smaller and more convenient to carry? Accuracy doesn't change as much as you might think, just by sawing off a barrel. The problem is that it's hard to do it exactly straight, so the bullet exits unevenly, which causes it to tumble - at least earlier than it would have otherwise. If you can get a perfect cut, you'll maintain pretty much the same inherent accuracy, but the gun is now of course much harder to handle, and thus harder to shoot accurately.On the other hand, it'd fit in your pack! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
irishroy 1347 Posted February 27, 2014 (edited) As they line up to run into a house, I shoot the first guy in the back and he drops.... I shoot him in the chest and he also goes down .... low and behold, in walks the second guy I had shot, whom I thought was dead. That was my first experience with the B95. I was surprised seeing as how it was a sub-50m shot and it was the same ammo as the mosin. I expected to drop him in one shot...True story. So overall, it made him unconscious, but not dead, and killed the first guy? Edited February 27, 2014 by irishroy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
knifeparty 109 Posted February 27, 2014 So overall, it made him unconscious, but not dead? It killed the first guy, one shot. I assume the second guy simply got knocked out. They were similar shots in elevation to the body. One was in the back, one was in the chest, both center mass. The only difference I believe is that guy #2 was probably healthier, or perhaps even at full health. Also of note, I got shot in the back with a mosin the other day at nearly point blank range (<10m). I'm not sure where exactly the other guy was aiming, but I had all pristine gear and was full health. I didn't even get knocked unconscious. I simply fell to the ground. I had my weapon out but he was able to pull off a second kill shot on me while I spun around on my belly, just in time to see him fire again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarkwaveDomina 1099 Posted February 27, 2014 I got shot in the back with a mosin the other day at nearly point blank range (<10m). I'm not sure where exactly the other guy was aiming, but I had all pristine gear and was full health. I didn't even get knocked unconscious. I simply fell to the ground. I had my weapon out but he was able to pull off a second kill shot on me while I spun around on my belly, just in time to see him fire again.I suspect what happened here is that your legs were supposed to be broken but the damage didn't register, it's happened to me when purposefully jumping off things lately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
napalmdog 71 Posted February 27, 2014 Why would you saw off a rifle barrel? I don't know much about guns, so... But wouldn't it just ruin accuracy with the only benefit being that it's a bit smaller and more convenient to carry?"It's called a Mare's Leg, son..." 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaveMeJebus 164 Posted February 27, 2014 Accuracy doesn't change as much as you might think, just by sawing off a barrel. The problem is that it's hard to do it exactly straight, so the bullet exits unevenly, which causes it to tumble - at least earlier than it would have otherwise. If you can get a perfect cut, you'll maintain pretty much the same inherent accuracy, but the gun is now of course much harder to handle, and thus harder to shoot accurately.On the other hand, it'd fit in your pack!negative .. on anything supersonic especially cutting down the barrel is going to cut down the bullet spin quite a bit, you will get tumbling and bullet yaw at a much shorter distance than a full length barrel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MagneticToast 102 Posted February 27, 2014 Lol no, mosin 1 shot kills if u hit above the waist... I think even wiki agrees with me, or maybe all the players I killed with mosin were low on blood ?Nope. I shot a guy with a mosin in the chest and he turned around and SKS'd me to death. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chekovp 89 Posted February 27, 2014 (edited) Lol no, mosin 1 shot kills if u hit above the waist... I think even wiki agrees with me, or maybe all the players I killed with mosin were low on blood ? Nope. I shot a guy with a mosin in the chest and he turned around and SKS'd me to death. I have also shot plenty of people in the torso with a Mosin and they just keep running(edit: while bleeding). Every once and a while I will one shot someone and they will be unconscious, but a one shot kill with anything is either a headshot or they were already low on health. Edited February 27, 2014 by ChekovP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Window Licker 504 Posted February 27, 2014 (edited) Mosin is better, 1 hit to kill. Once hit a guy 2 times from B95, and he managed to escape.From EXPERIMENTAL, I got shot with a mosin 3 time's before I went unconscious, The guy who shot me revived me and helped me out. I got back to healthy then running from Svleto to the new town north of NEAF I got shot twice without blacking out managed to run the rest of the way to the town while bleeding made bandages and survived. It was a rough day so used to just running yolo in the north, guess the new spawns in Svelto have changed that. Edit: neither time was I carrying a large amount of gear to absorb the damage. Edited February 27, 2014 by Window Licker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The-MCV- 149 Posted February 27, 2014 (edited) When they add hunting I'm sticking to B95. Like the noob that I am, I just found out it uses Mosin ammo. I was wondering why I can't find any ammo. Edited February 27, 2014 by DontGoToBalotaAlone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicko2580 398 Posted February 27, 2014 Mosin. Really it comes down to 5 rounds vs 2. The speed loaders don't make much difference and you still get an extra round with the Mosin. Plus the Mosin can fit the scopes (not sure if the Blaze can) and be spray painted, which we all know makes it way more powerful. :pI think the full barrel shotgun is a better choice than the Blaze for <50m engagements. I avoid ranged encounters if at all possible until the SKS or Mosin is safely in my hands and stocked with ammo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
irishroy 1347 Posted February 27, 2014 I think i'm going for the Mosin.Bipod, Scope, compensator and 5 rounds. But the B95 is still good, though.It's fairly quiet, accurate, and in the future, (i think), it'll fit scopes, such as LRS or smth. like that (@ lest i hope so, because IRL it can).But as soon as we can saw it off, i will get stuck between the sawn of shotty and the sawn off Blaze :s Share this post Link to post Share on other sites