Old_Crow_Whiskey 119 Posted February 10, 2014 I only KoS people like the OP who KoS. Because of people like me, KOS bandits feel justified in their mentality since there is always someone hunting and trying to kill them. It's not just his imagination, and apparently it's a consequence he's willing to accept. He likes that style of game play. Without him I wouldn't have anything to do in the current build. He wanted to gain loot by killing someone and taking theirs and he risked his life by opening fire then looting a body in an open field. It's a high risk high reward lifestyle that will inevitably lead to his demise. Don't everyone get all butthurt about it, go do something about it. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
louist 163 Posted February 10, 2014 There are so many generalizations being made in here. I've lost a little of my faith in the community. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crooked Hauser 258 Posted February 10, 2014 Oh hush up. DayZ is built on realistic ballistics. The enemy was 200 meters away. Someone can be expected to hit center mass with an M4 and iron sights at 500 meters with virtually no training. They were so close the Devil could've kissed him on both cheeks. Hardly sniping.But I bet you wouldn't be happy unless they shouted their family names and directly challenged one another like Samurai, or lined up with muskets. War is war, even bangers shoot from cover.As for him "just sitting down", he logged like a coward. All bets are off at that point. I'd specifically blow away anyone who combat logs, period.Ok, Gunny Hathcock. 500 meters is 1/3 of a mile. Good luck hitting that with iron sights and an M4. Maybe you meant to say feet? Even that is the max distance for Marine Corps rifle range... At least it was when I EASed in April 2004. And I was a 2nd Award Expert... Would have been more but, you know... War. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirby12 33 Posted February 10, 2014 because he logged Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
real meatshield 424 Posted February 10, 2014 Ok, Gunny Hathcock. 500 meters is 1/3 of a mile. Good luck hitting that with iron sights and an M4. I shot 247/250 when I qualified on an M16A2, on a wet and breezy day at Parris Island. Yes I am a better marksman than most (well, was.) Does not change the fact that the weapon is indeed capable of making those shots, at those distances. If you understand how the sight picture works- and believe me, any idiot can be trained to line up iron sights- you have a very good chance of making those long shots. 200m is childs play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The-MCV- 149 Posted February 10, 2014 So this is how combat logging looks like now. Some cunt sniper camping Elektro got shot by me and I chased him into a house where I found him sitting. He disappeared before I could finish him off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Demoth 366 Posted February 10, 2014 Bunch of people: blah blah blahOK, I would say that I am more of a roleplayer.I would start out closer, so he could hear me on direct coms.I would announce that I have him in my sights and he has only one chance to live- put your hands up. Or actually sit down, or walk slowly north, or lie on the ground, or 100 other options.The people who snipe want to paint everyone else as 'COD kiddies', but that is what they are, themselves.I have never sniped another player without warning, and I never will. Snipers without warning suck, and they are the weakest people in the game.Every time I get the jump on someone, they always start running, desnycing everywhere and run through walls. Considering everyone is an olympic sprinter who can make 90 degree turns on a dime going 50 MPH, it's very agitating.I haven't been killed by them yet, but it's because I've always had an M4 so I can spray and kill them before they can kill me.Until they can smooth out movement and aiming, I don't see a lot of people risking hold-ups.And FYI, I don't drop on people to rob them, I do it to ensure they don't get the drop on me. I announce I'm not there to kill them but they ALWAYS run and they are always having terrible desync when I later check their name (if they type) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crooked Hauser 258 Posted February 10, 2014 I shot 247/250 when I qualified on an M16A2, on a wet and breezy day at Parris Island. Yes I am a better marksman than most (well, was.) Does not change the fact that the weapon is indeed capable of making those shots, at those distances. If you understand how the sight picture works- and believe me, any idiot can be trained to line up iron sights- you have a very good chance of making those long shots. 200m is childs play.Yeah with a little training 200m is child's play. He said 500. Meters. 1600+ feet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spartanxapathy 203 Posted February 10, 2014 This kind of attitude, NOT KoS, is what is ruining this game's community. "So somebody shot at me, and now im gonna lose all this digital stuff..." Cry some more. Then use derogatory and hateful terminology that expresses a lack of tolerance for the lifestyle choices of another human being. Im not the one ruining this game. I agree with this. Apparently anyone that shoots at anyone is a "butthumper"... interesting. What you should have done Kage was yell "Friendly" 73 times and ran around him in circles asking if he wanted to be best friends. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spartanxapathy 203 Posted February 10, 2014 OP is a KOS bandit sniper trying to justify himself as a hero. Put his hands up? Yea, sure, that works what percentage of the time when a sniper realizes he hasn't killed you with the first shot? I put KOS snipers in the same kiddie category as combat loggers. Thankfully they all seem to love killing freshies in Elektro and leave the rest of the map to players with a spine. Well, with your whopping 3 post's I can see how you are the authority here. KoSing and Banditry are 2 different things, also, who gives a shit what category you put people in. "KOS BANDIT SNIPER" lolol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rybo 171 Posted February 10, 2014 (edited) So, earlier today, I logged in on top of this industrial building (brown one that is not enterable, has 2 ladders). After a few moments to let the desync go away, and reorganize my inventory, I prone and start scanning the area. LOW and behold, running out in the open, coming from the small military base south of NWAF, I see a tiny black speck moving across the field in my direction. I quickly pulled out my sks, zeroed it to 200, and waited for him to get closer. He was maybe 50 feet or so away from the main road, when I opened fire. I missed the first shot, but the second and third hit, I think. He stopped running, turned in a circle, and then did the strangest thing: He just sat down. Not crouched, but SITTING. I finished him off then, and looted his corpse. He had a ton of sks ammo and a nice pristine storage box, which I took. I drank all his soda, ate his apple, and took the bag of rice for later. I had no need for the rest, so I hid his body and ran back to a hidey hole to play a rousing game of inventory tetris, shortly after which the game crashed and I called it for the day. But my question is, WHY? Why did he just SIT DOWN? He made no attempt to escape, return fire, take cover (not that much cover was available to him). Why? Almost 500 post and you don't know about the new log out feature. Double mine for crying out loud! Bullshit! HAHAHAHAHAahahahha you clown... Way to make a completely bullish post which I can't believe even if you paid my ass. Fan Boy doesn't begin to describe this crud. Edited February 10, 2014 by RyBo 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ispecter 55 Posted February 10, 2014 Anytime you logout you sit on the ground for 30 seconds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crazykage 1063 Posted February 10, 2014 Ok, I see a lot of heated.....discussion....going on here. Words like "CoD", "douche", "butthumper", and "pumpernickel". I feel the need to say a few things: Number 1 is that PvP is the single most exciting thing about this game. The knowledge that at any moment, with just ONE tiny mistake, or EVEN just a simple case of bad luck, you can loose it all (and start all over again, rinse, repeat). If all you want to do is gather food and camp in the trees, you are playing the wrong game, IMO. But play how you like (so long as you don't dictate how I play either, and yes, that includes killing you). Many fail to realize just how boring the game would be without it. And do NOT try and use the zombie argument on me, I AINT BUYIN IT! YES, the game needs, will eventually have, and I look forward to, more dangerous and more numerous zombies. But this can go one of two ways: A: The zombies, despite increased threat, continue to be a backdrop to the game, a foundation or excuse for the circumstances, while the focus continues to be on the human interaction (be that interaction conversation or bullets). Similar to the show Walking Dead. The show isn't about the ZOMBIES. They are just there. A constant presence, and constant excuse for the story to take place the way it does. B: The zombies become an even bigger threat than other players. No matter how well the AI is programed, it will NEVER surpass the level of intelligence and deviousness of a human controlled player. They would have to be so challenging, so strong, so numerous, and unbalanced that dealing with them would become a constant source of irritation and rage. Ever played a game that had a difficulty setting so hard as to be nearly unbeatable? How is that achieved? The game's programing has to make it so unfair that the game might as well be cheating (and in the case of games like Total War, the game LITTERALLY does). That is the ONLY way a program that isn't a billion dollar super computer can "outsmart" a human opponent. And beating that system can be infuriating. This kind of gameplay does not belong in DayZ IMO. Number two is that KoS does not necessarily imply a lack of roleplay. I often (but not always, its a game) consider my actions in game to be a reflection of how "I" would react were I in the exact same situation. Consider: I wake up, washed up on the beach of some strange place. Last thing I remember was a sinking ship. I am hungry, thirsty, wet, and cold. Every thing I see indicates civilization, but nobody is around. Which is eerie as all fuck. I wander around, and eventually stumble into my first zombie. A corpse. Walking. FUCK THAT KILL IT WITH FIRE! I gather my wits, find what I need by scrounging, but I am still confused about what happened to me, and to this strange place where everything is in Russian. I don't read fukin Russian! Then it happens; I see another HUMAN BEING. As I am about to call out to him, I watch him get attacked and beaten to the ground, handcuffed, robbed, raped, then shot in the head before his molesters leave. yup. THAT just happened. When I eventually find a gun myself, I resolve to trust NO ONE. THAT shit will NOT happen to me. Later I see another player: he has valuable stuff I need. He is nearby. I don't know him. He might be a threat. I KILL HIM. Welcome to the jungle baby. If I ever DO trust someone, it will be someone I know personally, or highly circumstantial, and even more highly difficultly earned. And 3rd: No, not every kill is an act of honest rollplay. I am a US Marine. And, IRL, a decent shot (3rd award expert {consecutive}, 5 times in total). I was not infantry, but nonetheless still easily learned and understood the basic infantry concepts. Nonetheless, I was am not infantry, and never saw any "action" (just worked my ass off on the airfield, tearing up AM2 matting and operating arresting gear). As a Marine, instilled to a degree with a nature that revels in conflict and struggle, and as a skilled marksman, I have always wanted to go hunting. But the only "hunting" I have ever done involved a fishing rod (yep. Fishing is still hunting). I would LOVE to one day get a license and take my 30-06 savage 111 and go shoot a deer. Or bear. or moose, whatever. I would thoroughly enjoy the whole affair: the stalk, the hiding, sneaking, waiting in anticipation, taking the shot. But money and time have always gotten in the way. But you know what comes reaaaaaaaallly damned close? Playing DayZ. Here, I can pick my weapon, scout out my hunting grounds, zero the weapon with some well aimed practice shots, stalk my prey, lie in wait, take the shot. And whats more? My prey could EASILY suddenly become my hunter if I do something wrong. Hell, just as in real hunting, I could do EVERYTHING right, and still get blasted. The pure rush of attempting to outwit and kill, yes, KILL another human being, capable of the same level of higher thought as me, is amazing. AND I don't have to worry about real world concepts like morality, empathy, the law, or the outright fact that I would never gain any actuall pleasure from literally killing a fellow human being. But in DayZ, it is possible to pit my wits, cunning, skill, and luck against another human being, and guess what? No matter how it turns out, both walk away from it un harmed. Do you grasp my meaning here? I don't mean to sound sociopathic, but there it is folks! This, for me, is fucking exciting! Its not to troll you, or make you miserable, or ruin your experience. Its because I revel in the challenge of outwitting my fellow man (woman?) in a life or death struggle, in which nobody actually gets hurt! GAAAAHHHH!! Its so AWESOME! Ok I gotta go. I got a serious urge to fukin stalk and kill someone right now. In game of course.... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rybo 171 Posted February 10, 2014 (edited) I shot 247/250 when I qualified on an M16A2, on a wet and breezy day at Parris Island. Yes I am a better marksman than most (well, was.) Does not change the fact that the weapon is indeed capable of making those shots, at those distances. If you understand how the sight picture works- and believe me, any idiot can be trained to line up iron sights- you have a very good chance of making those long shots. 200m is childs play. We need you in our other threads. We got Army boys saying otherwise... And it's blowing my fucking mind. Edited February 10, 2014 by RyBo 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crazykage 1063 Posted February 10, 2014 Almost 500 post and you don't know about the new log out feature. Double mine for crying out loud! Bullshit! HAHAHAHAHAahahahha you clown... Way to make a completely bullish post which I can't believe even if you paid my ass. Fan Boy doesn't begin to describe this crud.I was fully aware of the logout timer mechanic prior to this post. I was NOT aware of what character actually DO after the player logs out. I WAS under the impression that they just STOOD there. Having never seen a player log out until this moment, and being unable to see what my OWN character does, I was not aware that sitting down was the action in question. It never ceases to amaze me how people on the internet can be so vain, vicious, insulting, and intolerant, consistently lacking in an intelligent manner of speaking. Also, "fan boy"? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyT 554 Posted February 10, 2014 I don't see anything wrong with your question. If you have never been with a person when they log, or haven't seen a video, you really couldn't have known. As far as PVP, yeah, it is a vital part of the game. It makes the game. I just found it funny that you implied that the guy could have taken action that might have made you pause. You were shooting at the guy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blissfulkunt 196 Posted February 10, 2014 So, earlier today, I logged in on top of this industrial building (brown one that is not enterable, has 2 ladders). After a few moments to let the desync go away, and reorganize my inventory, I prone and start scanning the area. LOW and behold, running out in the open, coming from the small military base south of NWAF, I see a tiny black speck moving across the field in my direction. I quickly pulled out my sks, zeroed it to 200, and waited for him to get closer. He was maybe 50 feet or so away from the main road, when I opened fire. I missed the first shot, but the second and third hit, I think. He stopped running, turned in a circle, and then did the strangest thing: He just sat down. Not crouched, but SITTING. I finished him off then, and looted his corpse. He had a ton of sks ammo and a nice pristine storage box, which I took. I drank all his soda, ate his apple, and took the bag of rice for later. I had no need for the rest, so I hid his body and ran back to a hidey hole to play a rousing game of inventory tetris, shortly after which the game crashed and I called it for the day. But my question is, WHY? Why did he just SIT DOWN? He made no attempt to escape, return fire, take cover (not that much cover was available to him). Why?SOOOO Lame. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spartanxapathy 203 Posted February 10, 2014 SOOOO Lame. What's that? Combat Logging as soon as you take fire? Yeah, that is lame. If he wants to shoot at people, he can, at least he isn't quitting the game when something happens to him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blissfulkunt 196 Posted February 10, 2014 I personally, in my opinion, doubt the guy was combat logging. He probably just gave up because some asshole has nothing better to do but sit on a building and snipe anyone he see's. I understand this is part of the game, I am just stating in my opinion, sitting on a building sniping anyone has to be one of the lamest things... go find a team or something so your not so bored. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zjasuu 337 Posted February 10, 2014 People here always ignore the whole point, he asked why the other player sat down, he didn't ask you to judge his play style. Yea he might be a bandit, but I bet EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU has KoS someone. Also don't blame him for KoS, that's what makes this game so good, I love it when someone starts shooting at me and I get to shoot him in the ass without feeling bad. And if you die to the shooting you should blame yourself for not being careful enough, like in this case apparently the guy was running across an open field. People in this game play very differently so could you please stop the whole: OMG BANDIT NOOB thing, please? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rybo 171 Posted February 10, 2014 (edited) I was fully aware of the logout timer mechanic prior to this post. I was NOT aware of what character actually DO after the player logs out. I WAS under the impression that they just STOOD there. Having never seen a player log out until this moment, and being unable to see what my OWN character does, I was not aware that sitting down was the action in question. It never ceases to amaze me how people on the internet can be so vain, vicious, insulting, and intolerant, consistently lacking in an intelligent manner of speaking. Also, "fan boy"? Lulz. Again, you couldn't even pay me to believe this crud... "It never ceases to amaze me how people on the internet can be so vain, vicious, insulting, and intolerant, consistently lacking in an intelligent manner of speaking." Your right I apologize but honestly "lacking in an intelligent" doesn't even begin to describe your comments so far. Glad to see it's your first time on the world wide web... The "Fan Boy" comment is attributed to the fact I think your full of it. With your love of the new changes to combat logging you had to find a way to brag about it finally helping you. Even though it was complete crap to begin with. I would have thought you were legit had you gone out of your way and used the search button.. again all this coming from a guy with double my posts. Either way I'm glad you killed the fucker whether he was fictional or not. Combat loggers should all get stuffed. Edited February 10, 2014 by RyBo 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crazykage 1063 Posted February 10, 2014 I personally, in my opinion, doubt the guy was combat logging. He probably just gave up because some asshole has nothing better to do but sit on a building and snipe anyone he see's. I understand this is part of the game, I am just stating in my opinion, sitting on a building sniping anyone has to be one of the lamest things... go find a team or something so your not so bored.please read the last paragraph of my last post on page 2. I think you fail to understand why people do this sort of thing, or at least, why I in particular do it. Read it. Go on. then you might understand that it is about more than simply "ruining your day". Ruining your day, in fact, has NOTHING to do with it.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crazykage 1063 Posted February 10, 2014 (edited) Lulz. Again, you couldn't even pay me to believe this crud... "It never ceases to amaze me how people on the internet can be so vain, vicious, insulting, and intolerant, consistently lacking in an intelligent manner of speaking." Your right I apologize but honestly "lacking in an intelligent" doesn't even begin to describe your comments so far. Glad to see it's your first time on the world wide web...nope. edited for delete. I have no interest in responding to your childish attitude, or continuing to debate with it. Ignore list is a wonderfull thing. I think im going to start seeing a LOT of white bars in this forum... Edited February 10, 2014 by Crazykage Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zeroy 240 Posted February 10, 2014 Another self confessed KoS bandit... oh well. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blissfulkunt 196 Posted February 10, 2014 please read the last paragraph of my last post on page 2. I think you fail to understand why people do this sort of thing, or at least, why I in particular do it. Read it. Go on. then you might understand that it is about more than simply "ruining your day". Ruining your day, in fact, has NOTHING to do with it....Ok I read it, didnt clarify anything. The fun is interacting with people, making them do silly things as a bandit or making a team... Overall its the interaction.. Yet again this is my opinion but I think your either defending yourself all wrong, or just playing the game wrong (douchy). Ill say it one more time, THIS IS MY OPINION. Sniping and shooting anyone you see for "fun" is a douchy way to play. lol. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites