autoloon 285 Posted January 26, 2014 From a design perspective, it'd be absolutely pointless to tie up Ivan with the task of closing the loop of the train tracks to nowhere of Chernarus past if there was no larger plan in mind. Imagine if GTA V had a circular train loop and no functional train. Doesn't make much sense, does it? I do think it is a very late development feature that might even be added in beta, and will not be mentioned for a good long time. But choo choo! It's on the way for sure IMO. Thoughts? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Timecharge 28 Posted January 26, 2014 Theres train cargo holds just past cherno, and in IRL a lot of train tracks don't even have trains that run on them anymore Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crosa 93 Posted January 26, 2014 would be cool... but I dunno... maybe they just thought it would add a navigational aspect to the map for people who are lost... come across the railroad and follow it your bound to end up getting somewhere. but eventually a working train would be pretty awesome.. I can just see the epic battles taking place as bandits chase the train down in pick-up trucks trying to kill everyone on it and the train riders shooting out the train cars to defend the train :) would make for some awesome madmax style moments 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
=fox= damocles 54 Posted January 26, 2014 Like the saying goes... Choo-Choo Motherfucker! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
omgwtfbbq (DayZ) 1069 Posted January 26, 2014 (edited) Who would be operating the train? If it ran off of electricity, why does only the train have electricity? If players could fix it and drive it, how would they turn it around once it got to the other corner of the map? Edited January 26, 2014 by omgwtfbbq Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pandema 352 Posted January 26, 2014 You wanna know whats ludicrous? Trying to maintain and operate a locomotive in a post-apocalyptic scenario with limited resources. 14 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weparo 613 Posted January 26, 2014 (edited) Who would be operating the train? If it ran off of electricity, why does only the train have electricity? If players could fix it and drive it, how would they turn it around once it got to the other corner of the map? Diesel.Reverse gear. You wanna know whats ludicrous? Trying to maintain and operate a locomotive in a post-apocalyptic scenario with limited resources. I'd agree, but then again, these old diesel powered trains will run 50 years straight with out much maintenance... The train would be like choppers : a pain in the arse to refuel :D Edited January 26, 2014 by Weparo 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eleventhavenue 204 Posted January 26, 2014 I don't think trains are a good idea, but I would like some kind of draisin... maybe hand-pump or bike type draisins that can be lifted off the rails, and also a slightly more rare diesel-powered draisin that would have to be repaired like a car. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
omgwtfbbq (DayZ) 1069 Posted January 26, 2014 Diesel.Reverse gear. The electric train thing was implying that it would be automated. (which doesn't make sense). Even if it could be fixed, what's the point? You're a big slow target that makes a lot of noise that can either stop or go, and can only travel between two points. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Man 393 Posted January 26, 2014 From a design perspective, it'd be absolutely pointless to tie up Ivan with the task of closing the loop of the train tracks to nowhere of Chernarus past if there was no larger plan in mind. Imagine if GTA V had a circular train loop and no functional train. Doesn't make much sense, does it? I do think it is a very late development feature that might even be added in beta, and will not be mentioned for a good long time. But choo choo! It's on the way for sure IMO. Thoughts? Hmm, I could see a working train being worked in. Just the cab though maybe. Or one of these: 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IkaikaKekai 1957 Posted January 26, 2014 Not a closed circuit/circle, its a branch line with it's terminus North West of Lopatino with the transfer line somewhere west of Kamenka (where it'll probably meet up with another rail system). It's also a diesel operation (no steam facilities, IE no water towers or coaling depots. Or infrastructure for an electric line, IE no overhead gantry or third rail.) Trust me, I'm an Engineer Brakeman.That being said, the only thing stopping players from using the rail system would be on the Devs end of getting the trains working right/realistically, and actually repairing/operating the locomotives. (Seriously, who here knows how to even turn one ON, raise your hands. Hell I barely know how to turn the one I actively work with on.) 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
autoloon 285 Posted January 26, 2014 One thing that would be very interesting is if you had to find a manual to work out the protocols for the locomotive to get it started, and what it needs to get going. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leviski 2152 Posted January 26, 2014 (edited) Haven't you seen the hype train just sitting in the middle of cherno? come on guys we will see trains working in the distant future. :P Just think of it, Full steam ahead! choo choo! off to the north! oh wait...what is that in the middle of the tracks? Oh no its a cow! Hit the brakes! What brakes? -End of Stream-"You are dead" Edited January 26, 2014 by leviski 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IkaikaKekai 1957 Posted January 26, 2014 One thing that would be very interesting is if you had to find a manual to work out the protocols for the locomotive to get it started, and what it needs to get going. Good luck with that. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Death_Dealer 3155 Posted January 26, 2014 Whether the train works or not isn't really a problem, it's the fact that you want your average every day civilian to operate a freight train Pretty sure Rocket said he wants driving and such to be complicated like in real life. Now I'm no expert on trains, but I'm pretty sure you can't just hop on one and start driving it. I'd imagine it would be fairly easy to screw things up given you have no idea what you're doing. Trains are very heavy, so it takes a while to get them going and to get them to stop, which only makes trains even more inconvenient for a small ( in relation to railroad travel ) map like Chernarus it's a cool idea but not sure if it would work out too good 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SmashT 10907 Posted January 26, 2014 Who would be operating the train? If it ran off of electricity, why does only the train have electricity? If players could fix it and drive it, how would they turn it around once it got to the other corner of the map? Runs off Rockets? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eleventhavenue 204 Posted January 26, 2014 Well, I will repeat; Draisins. I really think this should be the only method of rail transportation. If we can get locomotives running, why not Helicopters and BMP's? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustYouForget 17 Posted January 26, 2014 You wanna know whats ludicrous? Trying to maintain and operate a locomotive in a post-apocalyptic scenario with limited resources. Chop wood = Burning wood for the train wooohooo CHOO CHOOO 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Man 393 Posted January 26, 2014 Constructing a handcar wouldn't be too difficult given you can find train parts and a few other things + some tools. It would be hand operated! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustYouForget 17 Posted January 26, 2014 Well, I will repeat; Draisins. I really think this should be the only method of rail transportation. If we can get locomotives running, why not Helicopters and BMP's? Hmm, I could see a working train being worked in. Just the cab though maybe. Or one of these: YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IkaikaKekai 1957 Posted January 26, 2014 Whether the train works or not isn't really a problem, it's the fact that you want your average every day civilian to operate a freight train Pretty sure Rocket said he wants driving and such to be complicated like in real life. Now I'm no expert on trains, but I'm pretty sure you can't just hop on one and start driving it. I'd imagine it would be fairly easy to screw things up given you have no idea what you're doing. Trains are very heavy, so it takes a while to get them going and to get them to stop, which only makes trains even more inconvenient for a small ( in relation to railroad travel ) map like Chernarus it's a cool idea but not sure if it would work out too goodPretty much, the SIMPLEST Diesel locos have at least 4 important levers (not counting what you need to do to actually get it running), Engine Brake, Train Brake, Reverser, Throttle. with the brakes and throttle looking very similar. Oh, and you apply pressure to the Train Brake to release the brakes, and apply pressure to the engine brake to apply the brakes. Keep that in mind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuddyRP 41 Posted January 26, 2014 search function. people have discussed this several times in previously made threads my thoughts: - functional locomotive....no chance- manual pump 1-2 person rail cart spawn / assembly (meaning find parts for it then build on tracks) ..much more plausible in this gaming environment Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IkaikaKekai 1957 Posted January 26, 2014 Chop wood = Burning wood for the train wooohooo CHOO CHOOO My mind boggles at the simplicity of other minds...there's a big difference in the types of steam locos, Oil, Coal, and Wood, with wood being phased out long ago and Oil being the more common. Oil fired locos cannot burn wood or coal, and wood does not burn as efficiently as coal so you would need a shit tonne more to...you know what I need to leave this thread before I leave my sanity. /jetpack Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zhrike 264 Posted January 26, 2014 The electric train thing was implying that it would be automated. (which doesn't make sense). Even if it could be fixed, what's the point? You're a big slow target that makes a lot of noise that can either stop or go, and can only travel between two points. If there is a train that can be made to move, guaranteed players will work together to get it moving. And then die. And then do it again. Why? Because trains. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites