Weapon extinction

[FishGuts4Lunch 66]

With the number of high grade weapon spawns having been dialed back along with an even greater choke hold on the extra attributes (scopes,bipods,silencers) the ones that are still out there as artifacts of the days of plenty are going to become ever more scarce as the KoS snipers are killed by other players, glitches and accidental charactor resets. Personally I look forward to it all. It keeps the game more mobile and makes you put in more hours if you want good kit. Add to this upcoming measures to stop server hopping and combat jumping and I feel the game is about to get alot better in the time ahead. I really think I should have a chance to at least avoid a killer by dodging fire or running away instead of being picked off from 800 meters by some guy with a scope as I drink some water at a pump. I would feel different if he snuk up behind me and gave me an axe in the back... not happier perse` just a little less powerless.

[TedZ 424]

You don't need a good kit to survive.

And yes, i'm pretty sure the game will get better.

[Demoth 366]

I agree that currently we have too many decked out COD-looking mofos running around. Problem is, with weapon spawns being dialed back so hard, and no threats existing outside of other players, I fear this game will get very boring very fast until zombies become a threat like the mod.

I know it's not the point of the game, but firefights of roving bands of bandits / heroes has been the highlight of my experience after I dumped in about 100 hours of exploring. I mean, it will be nice to not run into 39 people on the server looking like Rambo, but still.

I also think the KOS'ing will get way worse once server hopping is squashed, but hopefully I'm wrong. Unfortunately I'm so paranoid of losing my Mosin after the last patch that I blast anyone I see because I don't want to lose it.

[Deathlove 2286]

Personally i look forward to more guns period. I could care less about weapon extinction as long as they dont make decent weapons hard to find and long term players that know how to get around everything impossible to kill because of weapons shortages.

[Deathlove 2286]

I agree that currently we have too many decked out COD-looking mofos running around. Problem is, with weapon spawns being dialed back so hard, and no threats existing outside of other players, I fear this game will get very boring very fast until zombies become a threat like the mod.

I know it's not the point of the game, but firefights of roving bands of bandits / heroes has been the highlight of my experience after I dumped in about 100 hours of exploring. I mean, it will be nice to not run into 39 people on the server looking like Rambo, but still.

I also think the KOS'ing will get way worse once server hopping is squashed, but hopefully I'm wrong. Unfortunately I'm so paranoid of losing my Mosin after the last patch that I blast anyone I see because I don't want to lose it.

If they bind ppl to servers than loot needs to be more plentiful period to reduce KOSing. Otherwise no one will want to play the game properly. iv seen games decrease loot and it just goes to shit until things are raised up in terms of spawns.

[VincentNZ 5]

Hmm my mates and I got killed several times now since the update, but weapons are not hard to come by. I had 3 M4s in two days that I could not pick up, because I was already carrying two weapons. We killed three people yesterday. All of them were equipped with at least one long weapon. Some even had two. I was at Green mountain, my mate looted the police, when two guys came in, I panicked and shot the first, and told the second to loot his mate and log off, they both had M4s. Then two others came along, shot the poor fellow and they surely had a Mosin with a scope and a M4 as well.

 

Guns are not hard to get at all. Pristine attachments are a bit more scarce though, yet the missing tent loot is a bug, so if you are there log onto a HC server, loot and log back. I doubt someone is going to condemn you for that. Other than that, barracks hold a lot of attachment as well, albeit in rather poor condition mostly.

[Demoth 366]

PS - Just so we're clear, I am for having less weapons on the server and I am against server hopping (despite being guilty of it). Once server hopping is eliminated then perhaps I can always stay on the server I like and nor have to be sad that at 8 AM every spot has been picked clean by server hoppers despite the server only holding 3 people.

[dricht1 28]

Weapon spawns are not dialed back. M4s and pistols of both kinds are everywhere, and even mossins aren't tough to come by. Noobs will still spray n' pray until you die, the difference is now you won't be able to find those attachments you worked so hard for EVER AGAIN.

[FishGuts4Lunch 66]

Yes the guns are still out there but less long weapons. A week ago I could find 5 M4's at NWAF on a single server if it was still virgin. Now you MIGHT find one on the same server. On the other hand there are pistols in abundence especially the .357. Nice thing about the .357 is you do not need to scrounge for a clips, the bullits go right in. The down side is it is just 6 shots and a slower reload unless you happen to find a speedloader.

I don't mind pistols. They're good protection but you have less chance of being hit from a distance if someone it trying to attack you.

 

The attachmets... you have that nailed IMO. A mosin or M4 without a scope is a much shorter range weapon

[infammo 15]

the current gun rarity across all weapons across the board? I would like that. Especially if ammo becomes more precious. Is till find enough ammo that it could be used as candy, even if weapons are really rare outside military barracks/military offices.

 

Edit: Granted, we shall see what happens once loot respawns are functional and the deer stands start having loot. (Would make sense to find shotgun and hunting rifle ammo there, as well as hunting equipment. Rarely a worn or damaged weapon.

 

I would love to find a damaged rifle at a hunting stand, (which explains why it was abandoned.) then restore it with weapon kits.

Edited January 26, 2014 by Felandi

[Deathlove 2286]

the current gun rarity across all weapons across the board? I would like that. Especially if ammo becomes more precious. Is till find enough ammo that it could be used as candy, even if weapons are really rare outside military barracks/military offices.

 

Edit: Granted, we shall see what happens once loot respawns are functional and the deer stands start having loot. (Would make sense to find shotgun and hunting rifle ammo there, as well as hunting equipment. Rarely a worn or damaged weapon.

 

I would love to find a damaged rifle at a hunting stand, (which explains why it was abandoned.) then restore it with weapon kits.

First they need to make the weapons pristine not degrade them lol. I really hope that gets fixed in next patch. XD

[Baarn 53]

I can't really support the statement of mods being scarce.

 

I played the game on Friday, and played as I used to playing, roam the cities to find supplies and stuff. I found a Mosin in a house, purely accidental. I ran around a bit more and found a pristine PU-Scope, was looking to find it. I spray painted my Mosin, which broke it, so I had to find another one, which I did very quickly. Then I found a Compensator, while looking for a long range scope.

A glitch made me slip trough a wall, up from a tower in Cherno and I died. I was pretty pissed and decided to server-hop to farm back my gear, especially as retrieving gear is not possible at the moment. I normally don't even attempt to retrieve my gear after dying, I really like the idea of death and having to start over again, but I really wanted the compensator again, to test it out some more and could not accept this stupid glitch to be a sufficient excuse for my characters sudden demise.

 

2 hours of server hopping resulted in:

Complete pristine TTsKO and a helmet, pristine ACOG and Magpul M4A1, three Long Range Scopes (worn, 2x damaged), and a lot of other stuff I wasn't even looking for. Then I finally found the compensator and went on to find I mosin (I decided to do that without hopping). Found a Shotgun within 20 minutes, a Mosin right beside it. I can't compare it to how it was before the patch, but If I knew where to look for Compensators and Scopes before, I could have done this in probably less than an hour.

 

I have no idea how much time people, who regularly hop server, spent before the patch to get kitted. But I think the above is completely acceptable. I really hope server hopping is made impossible though. Would be nice to be able to retrieve gear after bug induced accidents. (which is quite impossible to implement)

Edited January 26, 2014 by Baarn

[DropBearChick 1216]

Ive yet to find an m4 scope, but plenty of other attachments

[komadose 190]

dodging a  bullet? am i missing something? if someone wants to shoot you, you are f***ed, plain and simple. you can't dodge bullets...

[dricht1 28]

I hope this actually quotes the post, it's not giving any indication of such after hitting the quote button... regardless:

Perhaps you are having good luck, or I am having bad luck. After losing my character to the all-consuming public hive yet again, I decided to test out what kind of loot I could get by hitting zero-pop servers whose reset times I knew well enough to plan around.

After three days of testing, all military areas fully looted (civilian areas only partially looted), all servers empty, all doors closed with idle zombies, directly after resets, here are the routes and results. I began server hopping at the end because I was shocked by the results.

Day 1: East coast -> Rifty -> NEAF -> Gvozdno -> Grishino -> NWAF -> Military base -> (server reset) -> Military base -> (character reset by hive)

 

Day 2-3: East coast -> Rifty -> NEAF -> Gvozdno -> Grishino -> NWAF -> Military base -> (server reset) -> Military base -> NWAF -> (server reset) -> NWAF -> Military base -> Zelenogorsk -> Military Base 2 -> (server reset) -> Military Base 2 -> Zelenogorsk -> Military Base -> NWAF -> (server switch) -> NWAF -> Military base -> {(server switch) -> Military base}x6 -> NEAF -> Rifty

That is... 61 barracks, loads of jails, several fire stations, dozens of hangars, a handful of those buildings near the NWAF tents... By the end I was just continuing out of sheer disbelief. Excluding the ubiquitous and largely undesirable PU scope I found exactly four pristine attachments - one pistol flashlight, one of each type of suppressor, and a magpul handguard. The other attachments were almost entirely m4-related, difficult to find and in poor condition. m4s themselves were plentiful - I cataloged twenty-seven in total - as were magazines, including the coupled of which I found eleven. I also found thirteen mosins, but no compensators and exactly one badly damaged LRS. I lost count of magnums, and while I found about as many FNX45s I never found a single magazine for them. Bipods seemed to spawn decently, but in poor shape - the best I found was worn, the other seven were badly damaged.

I plan on prioritizing other types of zones for future runs when I have more free time, but for right now military sites seem to be a god-awful waste of time and effort, especially on populated servers.

[FishGuts4Lunch 66]

Dricht1

I'm having the same trouble with the "Quote" not working.

 

Your tally would sound very much like what I am finding with only slight variations but it comes down to about the same thing i.e. it's out there but you will need to work to find it and should cherish it once you have it!

 

Komadose

Dodging bullits is to say if you are at any kind of a distance, like across the street, you can jink and zig zag away from a guy with a pistol until out of range. A person with a mosin can keep shooting at you for a much longer period much more effectively that a man with a pistol.

[Karmaterror 982]

Im all for lower weapon spawns, and i think that once there are say 20 guns in the game, it wont be a problem finding one, but finding the correct ammo to match it could be :)

 

Also i had quote button stop working in internet explorer ages ago, switched to chrome for the forums and its been fine since :)

[FishGuts4Lunch 66]

Yeah I have been resisting going over to Chrome because Google already has too much of a grasp on my life. Quite facebook as well, same reason. I object most to finding chrome piggy backed onto my computer every time I fail to notice  the little checked box on an update for something like Adobe.

[Highlander007 249]

With the number of high grade weapon spawns having been dialed back along with an even greater choke hold on the extra attributes (scopes,bipods,silencers) the ones that are still out there as artifacts of the days of plenty are going to become ever more scarce as the KoS snipers are killed by other players, glitches and accidental charactor resets. Personally I look forward to it all. It keeps the game more mobile and makes you put in more hours if you want good kit. Add to this upcoming measures to stop server hopping and combat jumping and I feel the game is about to get alot better in the time ahead. I really think I should have a chance to at least avoid a killer by dodging fire or running away instead of being picked off from 800 meters by some guy with a scope as I drink some water at a pump. I would feel different if he snuk up behind me and gave me an axe in the back... not happier perse` just a little less powerless.

Not everyone has 7 hours a day to play this game.

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Edited January 26, 2014 by Highlander007

[jimbomobo 1]

Iv'e not found a single gun yet since the patch. Currently playing hardcore and I kind of like it. Firearms should be rare and difficult to get. 

 

I'm hoping that when more zombies get included it's going to get even more difficult to get to places where the spawn of firearms is high.