krankiez 1 Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) Hi guys im building my very first pc Yay!!! But i needed to know if the componants i have selected will all fit in the case and what not here is a list of items... Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 Motherboard (Socket AM3+, Up to 16GB DDR3, USB 3.0, uATX)DESKTOP COMPUTER PC CASE Galaxy 3 Mid Tower Black 450W PSU Bubble Light Windows LEDAMD FX8320 Black Edition 8 Core (3.5/4.0GHz, 8MB Level 3 Cache, 8MB Level 2 Cache, Socket AM3+, 125W,CIT 750w Gold 12CM Silent Atx Power SupplyCorsair CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 Vengeance 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600 Mhz CL9 XMP Performance Desktop Memory Kit Black x2 16gbZotac GeForce GTX 650 Ti 2GB Graphics Card Kingston Hyperx Cooling Fan Accessory - Black I know the GPU is not the best in the world but it will give me time to save up and improve as games improve What im looking for mainly is that it will work to the highest level of my budget i don't have a problem with building it just the supporting also i havn't added a heatsink as im still looking for a good one for a good price if any recommended please link below Thanks :)) PS sorry if this is in the wrong sector of the forum please move to the right sector if this is the case Edited January 22, 2014 by krankie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlksnshN 127 Posted January 22, 2014 Any particular reason you're running a micro ATX board in a mid tower case? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dusty_ 48 Posted January 22, 2014 What's your budget? Usually I wouldn't suggest getting a case with a built in power supply just because they are usually cheaply made, and your not going to be upgrading your case in the future so you best pick a decent one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krankiez 1 Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) What's your budget? Usually I wouldn't suggest getting a case with a built in power supply just because they are usually cheaply made, and your not going to be upgrading your case in the future so you best pick a decent one.My overall budget is £600 give or take a few pound also the PSU that comes with the case i can replace it for my own ? Edited January 22, 2014 by krankie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krankiez 1 Posted January 22, 2014 Any particular reason you're running a micro ATX board in a mid tower case?Cheapest i could find that might work lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlksnshN 127 Posted January 22, 2014 Cheapest i could find that might work lol My first build was of similar specs and budget as yours. I also bought one of the cheapest boards (ASUS M5A97) I could find with horrible results. First board arrived DOA. Second board lasted 4 months, third board lasted almost a year. They were covered under warranty but each time, my PC was down for an extended amount of time. If you do go with that board, I would not recommend any overclocking at all. And keep it cool. I had a Hyper 212 evo and it kept my temps nice and cool on the stock clock, plus it's cheap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Atom Quark 437 Posted January 22, 2014 I have one of these motherboards running my HTCP and its a good "cheap" motherboard. I would not pair it with a 8 core 125watt CPU. With that CPU I would get a board that at least has some better vrm cooling, and a 970chipset. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Punkrawks 136 Posted January 22, 2014 Other than using AMD, it's alright I suppose. Budgets are budgets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sav112g 114 Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) I’m using a 2004 build here just to browse the net and Email and occasionally shop etc but going to get back into gamming because of Dayz and the new Elite game I backed. I’m thinking more along the lines of £1200 for a decent rig as I’ve got my money out of this one that was bought ready to play BF2. With the Day Z I’ve only been watching streams on twitch to get idea about the game but I’m quite happy to wait even longer now for my PC. The longer you wait the more bang for your buck. I was getting a new rig in March but it could be next year now. I don’t really want to play early Dayz with Bugs, I just want to bask in its glory say in a year when you cant cheat as much, jump servers like a bunny and both the game and players have matured to a nice level. Try looking at overclockers thay have a very active communityhttp://www.overclockers.co.uk/ Edited January 22, 2014 by sav112 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirby12 33 Posted January 22, 2014 16 gb ramgtx 770i7 4470k Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phantasm (DayZ) 57 Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) 650ti is a bad choice. At minimum, you want a 660+, I run a 760 evga gtx and it's comparable to a 670. For cpu, try to stay away from AMD, DayZ performs much better on intel cpus. Edited January 22, 2014 by Phantasm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wightlion 28 Posted January 22, 2014 My first build was of similar specs and budget as yours. I also bought one of the cheapest boards (ASUS M5A97) I could find with horrible results. First board arrived DOA. Second board lasted 4 months, third board lasted almost a year. They were covered under warranty but each time, my PC was down for an extended amount of time. If you do go with that board, I would not recommend any overclocking at all. And keep it cool. I had a Hyper 212 evo and it kept my temps nice and cool on the stock clock, plus it's cheap. I also say the 212 Evo, best bang for your Buck,Euro, Pound, or Beans Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mos1ey 6301 Posted January 22, 2014 I'd go with an AMD card over the 650Ti, personally. That's a very low spec card that will struggle with anything relatively recent, nevermind "future gaming". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dusty_ 48 Posted January 22, 2014 If I were you I would just save up for another month and maybe double your budget.. It would be worth it in the long run. I regret rushing to get a computer, I spent $700 and I upgraded the graphics card, but it only runs games on low with max 20 frames.. 5 months later I built the $1500 beast machine I have now. Believe me... it's worth it to save up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kappa (DayZ) 0 Posted January 22, 2014 Okay, let me clear up some things for you. Should you save up your money and get a better computer for double budget? Yes. Should you stop cutting corners (such as your mobo)? Yes. With those things said, you can build a perfectly fine gaming PC for your budget and run most games on high/ultra. AMD FX-6300 6 CoreGigabyte GA-970A DS3P 8gb RAM (1x8 so you can add another 8 in the future)WD 1TB HDDAs us Radeon R9 270 2gbA $30-40 case.A ~500W PSU (450W would be fine.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raptor05121 32 Posted January 22, 2014 16 gb ramgtx 770i7 4470k dont you mean 4770K? I've got the exact same setup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raptor05121 32 Posted January 22, 2014 Okay, let me clear up some things for you. Should you save up your money and get a better computer for double budget? Yes. Should you stop cutting corners (such as your mobo)? Yes. With those things said, you can build a perfectly fine gaming PC for your budget and run most games on high/ultra.AMD FX-6300 6 CoreGigabyte GA-970A DS3P8gb RAM (1x8 so you can add another 8 in the future)WD 1TB HDDAs us Radeon R9 270 2gbA $30-40 case.A ~500W PSU (450W would be fine.) Ditto. If your computer is going to last for a few years, don't skimp out. Because then you will have to put up with crap products for a couple years versus waiting another month or so for more money and getting something good. Remember: "you get what you pay for" and "quality doesnt cost, it pays". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mehsiah 2 Posted January 22, 2014 Im running DayZ on the following..i7 4770k 3.5 (At stock its clocked at around 3.7/3.8, so do i win at RNG?)cooler master cpu evo coolergtx 6608gb ram750 watt PSUGigabyte 1150 H87 MoboNo SSD500GB HDDCorsair tower/blackwin7 sp1I had a budget of 900 and achieved it. I run everything on high/ultra and dayz looks like a movie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DoxHoliday 51 Posted January 22, 2014 I would go with Intel, IMO. Some on here have said the Arma engines favor Intel and Nvidia, though that may just be BS. I have i3770k, 1150 mobo, 16 GB DDR3, 256GB SSD, Nvidia 780 GTX, 750w PS. Am upgrading this weekend : i4770k, so I also need to buy socket 1155 mobo. As others have mentioned, if you can spend a little more now, do it. i4770k - these are actually cheaper right now than their predecessor, the i3770k. Don't skimp on the video card either. I sold my 770 GTX and with the money from that went to a 780 GTX for another Benjamin. If you go this route the video card will be the most expensive part of the build. But it's worth it. How much so is debatable for a game like DayZ SA which is more processor-dependent, but it's a good feeling to know you can run just about everything on ultra high settings Don't get a cheapo PS either, but it doesn't necessarily have to be Gold-series. Get at least 750w. he SSD makes a big difference for your OS/app load times, but is not necessarily confer a big FPS bonus for the game. But if you've never had one before and use one for this build, you will never want a regular sata drive again, except maybe for storage. 256GB is plenty for OS and a few games. Beyond that, the mobo doesn't really matter that much unless you want to water cool, have 3 BIOS versions, etc. Just get one that supports the chipset and SLI if you want to eventually... single card solution is fine though and you'll want to upgrade in 2-3 years anyways. Get decent RAM but doesn't have to be bad-ass platinum heat-spreader stuff. May as well get 16GB the way it's priced now. No real need to spend a ton here for ultra-high speed RAM and tweak in BIOS, etc... performance gains will be negligible. For the OS, go ahead and get Windows 8. It does have an appreciable performance increase under the hood, compared with Windows 7. Yeah the metro interface with all the tiles sucks balls on a desktop... just download ClassicShell - it's freeware, and will make the PC boot straight to the desktop, and get rid of all the corners/charms crap. Case is mostly an aesthetics. This is something I traditionally have not cared much about in all the past builds, just opting for a solid case with good ventilation. That is, however, until I ran across the Corsair Vengeance C70 Steel ATX case in military green. The damn thing is modeled after an ammo box, complete with hinges on the side. Check it out, you'll dig it. I build rigs that are just shy of bleeding-edge but right on the performance/price sweet spot, use for 1 - 1.5 years, sell while value is still good, and rebuild. These are just my suggestions for building a new rig for DayZ. Best of luck with your new rig, and besides half the fun is putting everything together, and crossing your fingers and saying a silent prayer when you push the power button on for the very first time and hoping you at least see the BIOS splash screen! :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kitthegreat 43 Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) Here's my build. Still waiting for delivery and its my first gaming PC. CasePCS TRAIL-BREAKER 7206B BLACK CASEProcessor (CPU)Intel® Core™i5 Quad Core Processor i5-4670K (3.4GHz) 6MB CacheMotherboardASUS® Z87-A: ATX, USB3.0, SATA6GB/S, SLi, XFIRE + **FREE GAME**Memory (RAM)8GB KINGSTON HYPER-X GENESIS DUAL-DDR3 1600MHz, X.M.P (2 x 4GB KIT)Graphics Card2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 760 - 2 DVI, HDMI, DP - 3D Vision ReadyMemory - 1st Hard Disk1TB WD CAVIAR BLACK WD1003FZEX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (7200rpm)1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAMPower SupplyCORSAIR 750W RM SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET Processor CoolingCoolerMaster Seidon 120M High Performance CPU Cooler Sound CardONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)Wireless/Wired NetworkingDUAL-BAND WIRELESS 802.11N 450Mbps PCI-E CARD Operating SystemGenuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit w/SP1 - inc DVD & Licence Keyboard & MouseLOGITECH® K120 USB KEYBOARD MouseROCCAT™ Savu – Mid-Size Hybrid Gaming Mouse Gaming Mouse PadROCCAT™ Sense Gaming Mouse Mat Plus a BenQ RL2455HM monitor. Im frickin excited :D Edit: Clearly my copy and paste skills need some work... Edited January 22, 2014 by Kit the Great Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Punkrawks 136 Posted January 22, 2014 Since this has turned into a CPU build jerk-off thread, I'll try to veer it back on track.Honestly I would stay away from AMD all together. People say you get a better bang for your buck, but these people aren't educated in how these processors work. They see big core and big Ghz numbers and say "For this price you can get a better AMD chip than intel" This is wrong in several ways. They calculate cores/clock speed differently so it's comparing apples and oranges. Both are fruit, but different kinds completely. If you calculate dollars per calculation Intel will give you the best bet. There is a reason high end servers use Intel, not AMD.Here is a list of high end CPUs. http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html AMD's top end is still #27 overall. That should tell you how 'good' they are. Your AMD chip will work fine for Dayz, but future proofing? You'll end up spending more on another processor in 12 months.. because by then, the 8320 won't be able to hold up.Save up and spring for a decent i7. It may cost a little more, but will last longer in terms of being adequate for gaming.For your video card, I wouldn't recommend anything lower than a GTX 700 series card. Yeah a 600 will run the game, but you run into the same problem as AMD chips. It will do for now, but you'll spend more in a year upgrading again. In the long run, it's cheaper to just future proof the whole machine now rather than buying cheap parts and replacing every 12 months. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kappa (DayZ) 0 Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) Since this has turned into a CPU build jerk-off thread, I'll try to veer it back on track.Honestly I would stay away from AMD all together. People say you get a better bang for your buck, but these people aren't educated in how these processors work. They see big core and big Ghz numbers and say "For this price you can get a better AMD chip than intel" This is wrong in several ways. They calculate cores/clock speed differently so it's comparing apples and oranges. Both are fruit, but different kinds completely. If you calculate dollars per calculation Intel will give you the best bet. There is a reason high end servers use Intel, not AMD.Here is a list of high end CPUs. http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html AMD's top end is still #27 overall. That should tell you how 'good' they are. Your AMD chip will work fine for Dayz, but future proofing? You'll end up spending more on another processor in 12 months.. because by then, the 8320 won't be able to hold up.Save up and spring for a decent i7. It may cost a little more, but will last longer in terms of being adequate for gaming.For your video card, I wouldn't recommend anything lower than a GTX 700 series card. Yeah a 600 will run the game, but you run into the same problem as AMD chips. It will do for now, but you'll spend more in a year upgrading again. In the long run, it's cheaper to just future proof the whole machine now rather than buying cheap parts and replacing every 12 months.Listen man, calling everyone else recommending AMD (including my self) uneducated does not help further your argument. Unless you are entirely versed on how processors operate, you do not have much room to talk. AMD would efficiently run Day Z as they have realfy great graphics processing already onboard. The processor and video card combo I mentioned will run without a doubt most things you throw at it (with an exception of some down the road). Obviously you will not get the performance as an i7 4930, but ****he has an obvious budget****. Edited January 23, 2014 by Kappa Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
martink8190@gmail.com 149 Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) I agree with the above post, for the most part a least. As sad as it is, AMD chips are ok for console ports and less demanding games or games that preliminary rely on GPU than CPU. Since most today games are console ports, the AMD chips simply suffice and have more cores for 7 zip and video converting. But demanding games like oblivion, arma , skyrim + hd pack and such will always run better on intel. There's much more to it but should you be interested the internet tech sites are good place to start to find out more on that. The only part I disagree with in the post above is the i7 part. The benefit of having i7 is next to zero over i5 and that applies to work related tasks, for the most part as well. OP - you might want to see if you can source something like HD 7850 or HD 7870 instead of the basic 650 Ti, even if you have to go the used way from credible source.. It is not bad card but you will end up replacing it / wanting better soon after you put your PC together. Once again, I've put together this build for someone else on this forum for even slightly lesser budget - Not counting delivery and monitor / KB / mouse... http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/159342-will-this-work-as-a-general-gaming-pc/?p=1601357 You will not build a better PC for the money but people never listen... Edited January 23, 2014 by Colonel-Wicked Share this post Link to post Share on other sites