stielhandgranate 480 Posted January 19, 2014 People want slav guns, so how about a slav shotgun. The Saiga 12 is a gas operated, magazine fed, semi automactic shotgun designed by izmash. One thing I would like to see is a new soundfile different from ArmA 2. The ArmA 2 sound effect sounds nothing like it's real world counter part. The Saiga 12 has aaccessory rail to fit optics like the PSO-1 and Kobra red dot sight. Here is one video from Izmash: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJ8Rcatihxo 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stielhandgranate 480 Posted January 20, 2014 Stange, I thought slav guns would excite certain users. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
- Karma - 75 Posted February 3, 2014 The Saiga 12 was in Arma 2 from the looks of things, so it might very well make it in. I did some research and was surprised to find out, according to the interwebz anyway, that the only shotgun that Russian police used was the Saiga 12 and it was not standard issue. But being that the Saiga 12 is completely compatible with most (if not all) AK family attachments this should be a no brainer in my opinion. Just rare - really rare. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thedogfoodyayho 295 Posted February 4, 2014 The Saiga 12 was in Arma 2 from the looks of things, so it might very well make it in. I did some research and was surprised to find out, according to the interwebz anyway, that the only shotgun that Russian police used was the Saiga 12 and it was not standard issue. But being that the Saiga 12 is completely compatible with most (if not all) AK family attachments this should be a no brainer in my opinion. Just rare - really rare.Thats not true... Russian police use a variety of shotguns including KS-23s, TOZ-194s and Molots, all pump action, from what i've heard. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
- Karma - 75 Posted February 4, 2014 (edited) according to the interwebz anywayDisclaimer :) Edit, also pretty sure KS-23 was a carbine that fired 23 gauge rounds used in the Prison System. Edited February 4, 2014 by - Karma - Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thedogfoodyayho 295 Posted February 4, 2014 KS-23 is classified as a Carbine becuase it uses Rifled 23mm Anti-Aircraft gun barrels. But in reality, it functions like a shotgun and fires shotgun-like ammo, including Buckshot, slugs, rubber, beanbags... it was made for Prison Guards initially. *4 Gauge. Millimeters arn'te gauges. Just an FYI to everyone, Gauges get smaller as the object gets bigger, so compare 12guage. The KS-23 fires a round bigger than most Infantry fighting vehicle's 20MM Cannon. Ik, beast right? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SyL3X 51 Posted February 4, 2014 Saiga 410 with the abilty to convert it to full auto. ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cj14 189 Posted February 4, 2014 I think this weapon was in Arma 2 so expect to see it in-game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juely 0 Posted February 5, 2014 yes Saiga-12 a "must be" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-Gews- 7443 Posted February 5, 2014 The KS-23 fires a round bigger than most Infantry fighting vehicle's 20MM Cannon. Ik, beast right?Bigger in diameter but I was quite disappointed when I discovered the ammunition specs."It's gotta be monstrously powerful, right?Well, short answer, no... I was disappointed to learn the "Shrapnel-10" has fourteen 0-size pellets... the Shrapnel-25 only has nine 00-size pellets.Nine pellets of 00 buck! The exact same as the standard 12-gauge... massive let-down." The larger diameter is an advantage when launching rubber balls and some other specialty ammunition. However the solid steel slug is sub-caliber, more around 12mm diameter. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stielhandgranate 480 Posted February 6, 2014 Off the internet for a while and my saiga thread gains momemtem. Thanks. I always thought it was strange the mod didn't carry the saiga, but I hope it will make an apperance in SA seeing how they can reuse some textures from the AKM/AK-74 and share parts like scopes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blackberrygoo 1416 Posted February 6, 2014 I've always loved the saga 12k in other games not to be mentioned . Never really shot one in dayz mod though , so I'd love to see one in the standalone . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glowfow@hotmail.com 55 Posted February 6, 2014 (edited) KSK... SKS... I would get freakin' confused man I'm getting old! In all seriousness though, I don't see that much of a difference from a 'regular' AK47, except this looks more military grade (edit: maybe more expensive is a better phrasing). I could be completely wrong though, I'm by no means a gun expert. Either way finding something like this once in a while in Chernarus wouldn't hurt, I'm all for it. Edited February 6, 2014 by JoostVoordeel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stielhandgranate 480 Posted February 6, 2014 KSK... SKS... I would get freakin' confused man I'm getting old! In all seriousness though, I don't see that much of a difference from a 'regular' AK47, except this looks more military grade (edit: maybe more expensive is a better phrasing). I could be completely wrong though, I'm by no means a gun expert. Either way finding something like this once in a while in Chernarus wouldn't hurt, I'm all for it. They could just call it a Saiga 12. Also it is a 12 gauge shotgun, not a rifle.As far as price goes, I bought my Saiga for 600 USD, its not that expensive for a combat shotgun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stielhandgranate 480 Posted February 6, 2014 The Saiga 12 was in Arma 2 from the looks of things, so it might very well make it in. I did some research and was surprised to find out, according to the interwebz anyway, that the only shotgun that Russian police used was the Saiga 12 and it was not standard issue. But being that the Saiga 12 is completely compatible with most (if not all) AK family attachments this should be a no brainer in my opinion. Just rare - really rare. The Saiga 12 is more common than some might think. It's sold to civilians in Russia, The United States, Germany, Czech Republic it is used by several police forces around the world, even in the US and Russian MVD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thedogfoodyayho 295 Posted February 6, 2014 We also need Saiga rifles. Basically they are Based off the RPK, but don't have the long barrel, can only hold 10-round magazines, and have black hunting furniture. They can be chambered for many calibers but mostly they're 7.62x39. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stielhandgranate 480 Posted February 7, 2014 We also need Saiga rifles. Basically they are Based off the RPK, but don't have the long barrel, can only hold 10-round magazines, and have black hunting furniture. They can be chambered for many calibers but mostly they're 7.62x39. I'd settle for a saiga 12. I don't expect much effort as far as weapons diversity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites