Pen and Paper

[3rdparty 229]

"Hurr 10 year olds did it nah man it was 9 year olds."

Majority of us are in our fuckin 20's-30's but nah lets pretend that we didn't do it and say it was 10 year olds.

I would draw a penis with a swastika on it for shits and giggles. I wouldn't make a career out of it but the sheer fact it was removed because of that

makes me cringe. You don't see valve removing the spray option in counter strike.

God damn leftist liberal social justice retards.

World war 2 was 70 god damn years ago and none of you were a part of it. I doubt you have anyone you know that is still alive from it.

 

If you have problems seeing a crude drawing of genitalia then you have some insecurity issues to work out.

The southern slang for the spanish word negro which means black is fucking retarded to be offended of in the first place.

 

 

Grow a god damn spine and put my pen and paper back in the game. Political correctness is going to destroy this world I swear.

 

Words and symbols change meaning over time and loses its luster and merit. The word gay used to be happy, and the word faggot used to be a bundle of god damn sticks. The history of the swastika symbol spans 3000 years and just because Germany had an "Uh-oh" 70 years ago, now its a no-no. The super secret N word is a retarded mans way at attempting Spanish. The only ones who should be offended is the fucking SPANISH.

And thank you OP for reminding me that Ace combat 5 gave me 10,000 feels.

inb4 mos1ey

Sorry you are a grating idiot, let me just point out a few things.

1. "God damn leftist liberal social justice retards." - Remove your profile picture now, or forever be content with being a hypocritical moron.

2. Sorry Mr Arm Chair Pundit, but what gives you the authority to tell people what they can or cannot be offended by, your self righteous snobbery sickens me.

3. You're right about the changes that occur to words. Where you trip up, is your diluted baseline understanding of history and it's effects today.

This sentence proves that, "World war 2 was 70 god damn years ago and none of you were a part of it. I doubt you have anyone you know that is still alive from it."

The swastika has been used for thousands of years (something you acknowledge but don't seem to notice how it contradicts your "ignore 70 years ago"), the reason why it is now associated with nazism, is because germany 1930's is the ONLY EXAMPLE, of a nazi state. A state that embraced the symbol and then pushed on to conduct not only the most devestating war in human history but also examples of the WORST, most barbaric behaviour humans can conduct.

That's a pretty hard symbol to change the meaning of, and it certainly isn't going to be done by some generic pop idol trying to "reclaim" it, it would take a postive movement on the scale of the WW2 to change the meaning of that symbol. If you can't understand/appreciate that then go back to school boy.

4. "Political correctness is going to destroy this world I swear." Only someone brazen enough to talk about nazism and how ww2 was 70 years ago (get over it!) would follow up with something as ridiculously numb and stupid as that.

5. "I would draw a penis with a swastika on it for shits and giggles" How old did you say you are? You're a fucking loser.

6. If any Moderator has been brought in here, to assess my statements for breaking forum rules and possibly edit them, then you better not overlook how the quote above is essentially down playing racism.

PS, 7. The world, and the things that happen in it, are bigger than you, me and our lifetimes. Do not be so fucking naive to assume you can sum up your two cents on the world and everyone in it. Things that happened hundreds of years ago, are very much relevant today.

 

[subliminal_city 27]

I would write you a love note which would melt you very heart and cause you to be basically transformed into my love zombie.

 

That sounds awfully perverted... or is that just my imagination?

 

On topic though, I would have kept a journal I believe or written a short story and kept pages of it spread out around. Wonder if anyone would try to actually get all the pieces...

Edited January 13, 2014 by subliminal_city

[Space Milk 195]

the word you're looking for is idiots.

tbh I'm not to sure whether racism is the reason or not, I would expect a whole load of derogatory examples are on the palette. the pen and paper mechanic has basically opened the game up to all the ethical arguments that have been had on forums over the internet's history except without moderation.

But to be honest, IMHO out of my experience playing ARMA and DayZ (and I don't think this is representative of society or even the forum community tbh) there has been a large section of players I've come across who've been particularily vicious, nasty or just sadistically abusive. More than the average troll to griefers you find on other fps multiplayer games.

Now i'm not sure whether it's the nature of the game (I don't) or some other reason. But I wouldn't be surprised if there was a particularily  militiristic/tribalistic/nationalistic mentality which made up an element of the core fan base of the ARMA series, even before DayZ, because, tbh, I would be very surprised if kids younger than 16/18 made up a large section of the DayZ players, I can only recall once talking with a kid out of over 1-1/2 years surviving.

ED: This is also why I think all these chin stroking high brow threads commentating on DayZ being a "social experiment" should really take pause at the limitation of variables, let alone the fact players are in the safety of their rooms, anonymous and secure with the fact they'll out live any cat.

They aren't idiots, they are ignorant. Big difference. If they were idiots they cannot change. Haven't you done something similar, or revolting as them during your childhood? I know I did, and I know many others did. But people grow up, some sllwer than others.

The people who grow up slower are retarded in terms of developing maturity, but they aren't stupid.

[Space Milk 195]

Sorry you are a grating idiot, let me just point out a few things.

2. Sorry Mr Arm Chair Pundit, but what gives you the authority to tell people what they can or cannot be offended by, your self righteous snobbery sickens me.

3. You're right about the changes that occur to words. Where you trip up, is your diluted baseline understanding of history and it's effects today.

This sentence proves that, "World war 2 was 70 god damn years ago and none of you were a part of it. I doubt you have anyone you know that is still alive from it."

The swastika has been used for thousands of years (something you acknowledge but don't seem to notice how it contradicts your "ignore 70 years ago"), the reason why it is now associated with nazism, is because germany 1930's is the ONLY EXAMPLE, of a nazi state. A state that embraced the symbol and then pushed on to conduct not only the most devestating war in human history but also examples of the WORST, most barbaric behaviour humans can conduct.

That's a pretty hard symbol to change the meaning of, and it certainly isn't going to be done by some generic pop idol trying to "reclaim" it, it would take a postive movement on the scale of the WW2 to change the meaning of that symbol. If you can't understand/appreciate that then go back to school boy.

4. "Political correctness is going to destroy this world I swear." Only someone brazen enough to talk about nazism and how ww2 was 70 years ago (get over it!) would follow up with something as ridiculously numb and stupid as that.

5. "I would draw a penis with a swastika on it for shits and giggles" How old did you say you are? You're a fucking loser.

6. If any Moderator has been brought in here, to assess my statements for breaking forum rules and possibly edit them, then you better not overlook how the quote above is essentially down playing racism.

PS, 7. The world, and the things that happen in it, are bigger than you, me and our lifetimes. Do not be so fucking naive to assume you can sum up your two cents on the world and everyone in it. Things that happened hundreds of years ago, are very much relevant today.

His post, was not directly attacking anyone. His post, was his opinion, a RELEVANT OPINION, on this subject.

Yours, however, directly attacks him, and does not directly contribute to the topic at hand. The mods have no reason to edit his post, only yours. He is naive? You are naive. You should quickly realize this. If you really want to get further, then you should take it to debate.org.

1: Snowden isn't a extremist, and he isn't liberal. HE IS LIBERTARIAN. Big difference. And libertarian, although left, is not exactly left like modern liberalism. A straight left-right chart cannot fully explain where libertarian sets on. He isn't a hypocrite, you are just ignorant on Snowden's views.

2: No, he doesn't have the authority. The same as other people do not have the authority to tell people not to do porn, who to hang out with, not to curse friends out, etc, etc. Thing is, all these things, are very strong recommendations. When you become a adult, you no longer have to listen to all these people. They no longer have authority over you and can give you orders, but they can give you very strong recommendations. It is important to listen to these people, and seriously consider them until you reached a certain unmarked level of wisdom.

Same with what he is talking about. Sure he has no authority, but should you really be offended by many things society says and does? Would you seriously have that ruin your day? Not only is that detrimental to mental health, but likely, as you are doing, you would try to restrict what they can say and do, that offends them. It's called being mature. You aren't a kid that is grossed out by boobies and dicks, love and kissing, broccoli and brussels sprouts, or whatever you were grossed out by besides these generic stuff.

You are a adult, and hopefully you can realize that, and become mature. People are people, don't let it ruin your day if it isn't doing any serious harm to you that you cannot easily, with a click of a button, solve or prevent.

You may choose to be offended, and you can definitely choose whether to let it ruin your day or not.

3: Well maybe he does understand it, but is looking at a different angle. For thousands of years the swastika had a totally different meaning than it is now, until one event very recently. There are several ways at looking at this. You might not agree, but engaging in rude, immature, and violent discussion with insults, isn't going to do anything.

4: Provided no argument, your opinion, his opinion. No need to be insulting.

5: And again with you with 2. If he was a loser wouldn't he have a job and definitely the money and a credit card to buy this game?

6: He broke no rules, his post is fine.

7: You yourself are very naive. Not everyone has the same perspective and way of thinking as you.

IMHO this feature should be brought back, hope it gets fixed. I would like to see the ability to type it out and have a MS paint style drawing tool.

Edited January 14, 2014 by Space Milk

[3rdparty 229]

His post, was not directly attacking anyone. His post, was his opinion, a RELEVANT OPINION, on this subject.

Yours, however, directly attacks him, and does not directly contribute to the topic at hand. The mods have no reason to edit his post, only yours. He is naive? You are naive. You should quickly realize this. If you really want to get further, then you should take it to debate.org.

1: Snowden isn't a extremist, and he isn't liberal. HE IS LIBERTARIAN. Big difference. And libertarian, although left, is not exactly left like modern liberalism. A straight left-right chart cannot fully explain where libertarian sets on. He isn't a hypocrite, you are just ignorant on Snowden's views.

2: No, he doesn't have the authority. The same as other people do not have the authority to tell people not to do porn, who to hang out with, not to curse friends out, etc, etc. Thing is, all these things, are very strong recommendations. When you become a adult, you no longer have to listen to all these people. They no longer have authority over you and can give you orders, but they can give you very strong recommendations. It is important to listen to these people, and seriously consider them until you reached a certain unmarked level of wisdom.

Same with what he is talking about. Sure he has no authority, but should you really be offended by many things society says and does? Would you seriously have that ruin your day? Not only is that detrimental to mental health, but likely, as you are doing, you would try to restrict what they can say and do, that offends them. It's called being mature. You aren't a kid that is grossed out by boobies and dicks, love and kissing, broccoli and brussels sprouts, or whatever you were grossed out by besides these generic stuff.

You are a adult, and hopefully you can realize that, and become mature. People are people, don't let it ruin your day if it isn't doing any serious harm to you that you cannot easily, with a click of a button, solve or prevent.

You may choose to be offended, and you can definitely choose whether to let it ruin your day or not.

3: Well maybe he does understand it, but is looking at a different angle. For thousands of years the swastika had a totally different meaning than it is now, until one event very recently. There are several ways at looking at this. You might not agree, but engaging in rude, immature, and violent discussion with insults, isn't going to do anything.

4: Provided no argument, your opinion, his opinion. No need to be insulting.

5: And again with you with 2. If he was a loser wouldn't he have a job and definitely the money and a credit card to buy this game?

6: He broke no rules, his post is fine.

7: You yourself are very naive. Not everyone has the same perspective and way of thinking as you.

IMHO this feature should be brought back, hope it gets fixed. I would like to see the ability to type it out and have a MS paint style drawing tool.

 

Yes it was a DIRECT attack on him and his stupid opinions, which I think I explained has the structural integrity of a wet flannel.

1. I never said Snowden was anything, I was highlighting the stupidity of someone making the statement "God damn leftist liberal social justice retards" whilst sporting the picture of a man currently living in exile due to campaigning for.... social justice.

2. No sorry, there's a few points raised there, let's address them. Firstly you seem to agree with me, that he does not have the authority to tell people what they can or can't be offended by;

"leftist liberal social justice retards"

"you have some insecurity issues to work out"

"fucking retarded to be offended of in the first place"

Sorry what? "you no longer have to listen to all these people", I don't know what world you're living in but that is simply not the case, where you work and where you choose to enjoy yourself forces you to listen to people. Point blank, wherever discrimination occurs, it should be confronted, ignoring it does nothing but allow it to ferment.

"It is important to listen to these people, and seriously consider them until you reached a certain unmarked level of wisdom" - Errr noooo. I'm not against freedom of speech, but if someone is talking blatant bollocks, you can be dam sure I'm not going to take them seriously.

"should you really be offended by many things society says and does?" Depends on the society, if they're stigmatising, belittling a section of society I think you should be, because it's attack on us all, but that's a different line of conversation.

"Would you seriously have that ruin your day?" YEs it does, to know that someone has belittled a section of society to make themselves seem superior sickens me.

"People are people, don't let it ruin your day if it isn't doing any serious harm to you that you cannot easily, with a click of a button, solve or prevent.

You may choose to be offended, and you can definitely choose whether to let it ruin your day or not."

SOrry this is such an ignorant statement, your on a public internet forum, how the fuck do you know it's not done any harm, not isolated out individuals who feel intimidated by joining in any discussions. Again ignorance AND stupidity does not go away by ignoring it, it festers and grows.

3. Well it seemed to have an effect on him because he seems to of yet produced his spinal column to respond to me.Also, I wouldn't call the rise of fascism, the outbreak of global war and the mass murder of millions of people (CIVILIANS, not just in the holocaust) across the world, all lasting around a decade... an "event".

I perfectly understand his angle, come across many times, but as I explained before, it's an unsustainable flawed opinion, that was my point.

4. Yea I was hoping to keep it brief but if you seriously need an explanation of the comparison I was making of the statement "Political correctness is going to destroy this world I swear." to his previous downplaying of the events of WW2, then I hope you appreciate that i'm not going to write essays for your inability to catch a basic point.

5. Well I guess our specifications for a loser are different then, I certainly class people drawing dicks with swastikas on them as fitting nicely in the loser category.

6. Well I beg to differ, it may seem like semantics but I work with many people with learning and physical disabilities, spot any derogatory words in his rant that may apply to them? Let alone him telling people it's stupid to be offended by the N word...

7.!!!! You do realise that was essentially the point I was making don't you??

I also think it should be brought back, what i'm contending is his opinion, and essentially what is your very sophisticated argument, for your right to abuse people, which IMHO, is fucking pathetic.

Edited January 15, 2014 by 3rdParty

[razgriz93@gmail.com 228]

... How did we get to this.

[doctorbadsign 645]

I like the idea of leaving random clues like an easter egg hunt and then waiting at the end patiently for someone to come along so I can either reward them or kill them as I see fit.

[burkino_026@yahoo.com 14]

removing the ability to write notes in the game because of racism is a bit BS. Then we should also remove chat and VOIP, and also usernames. Basically remove the entirety of free speech and writing.

 

I'm sure there's a more plausible reason like server overload because of too many paper notes or something like that.

Racism can be easily tackled by censorship and/or IP ban. If even IS a problem. Whoever takes an offence just by playing a videogame which has mature content in it is a bit of a crybaby anyway.

[Craux 81]

... How did we get to this.

I-I don't know....

Edited January 15, 2014 by Craux

[3rdparty 229]

and your into some murky techy gabba and bass.. that certainly offends me.

ED: No that was a pop up.. :S

Edited January 15, 2014 by 3rdParty

[Bruce of Wayne 81]

It's not a bug?

[Craux 81]

3. Well it seemed to have an effect on him because he seems to of yet produced his spinal column to respond to me.

I would but it would just turn out to be an "I'm right and your wrong yah "blah blah blah" debate and it would be so prolonged and boring i just don't have the attention span for it but oh well here we go.

I will say though speaking of spines. What someone finds offensive is completely up to that person and what they choose to do from that point on. Of course there is a line to where something does physical harm but verbal? Give me a break. You know how many people says shit to someone and visa versa? I'm sure you've had your share, I know i have. Its retarded yeah but there is a point to where you build up an immunity to this kind of crap and look it over.

Opinions are never flawed they are opinions, they can be persuaded otherwise but they are still opinions.

It comes down to. I don't know where you come from and you don't know where I've come from. But from what I've learned about life is to grow a thick skin. If the stuff I said really did "Trigger" you or someone to the point where you look in the mirror and beat yourself to a bloody pulp then my god I am sorry...no seriously I'm sorry. I'm sure there will be a time where we can all hold hands and sip tea singing whilst talking how lovely would it be to spend a summers eve with Prince Charles. But that day is not today.

Edited January 15, 2014 by Craux

[3rdparty 229]

well, interesting you mention spines and immunity.

One thing i've found interesting about recent medical advancements, especially over the last decade or two, is the increasing recognition of the indistinguishment between the limbic system and the immune system, that being between your emotional state and your immune system; that actually your emotions impact on your physical health and immune response as much as your physical health and immune response impacts your emotions.

It should be obvious really.

As for beating myself bloody, I have very thick skin, so worry not about that, i've already explained the reason for this rant. Holding hands with you and especially the prospect of sipping tea with Prince Charles does offend me though.

 

[razgriz93@gmail.com 228]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10eHMkFQQMs

I-I don't know....

That's one of my favourite missions.

That, Desert Arrow, First Flight and the Fortress one.

[Craux 81]

well, interesting you mention spines and immunity.

One thing i've found interesting about recent medical advancements, especially over the last decade or two, is the increasing recognition of the indistinguishment between the limbic system and the immune system, that being between your emotional state and your immune system; that actually your emotions impact on your physical health and immune response as much as your physical health and immune response impacts your emotions.

It should be obvious really.

As for beating myself bloody, I have very thick skin, so worry not about that, i've already explained the reason for this rant. Holding hands with you and especially the prospect of sipping tea with Prince Charles does offend me though.

 

I sense a love hate relationship forming.

[3rdparty 229]

I sense a love hate relationship forming.

I sense it too, the prospect of holding hands is stirring conflicting emotions.

[Space Milk 195]

Yes it was a DIRECT attack on him and his stupid opinions, which I think I explained has the structural integrity of a wet flannel.

1. I never said Snowden was anything, I was highlighting the stupidity of someone making the statement "God damn leftist liberal social justice retards" whilst sporting the picture of a man currently living in exile due to campaigning for.... social justice.

2. No sorry, there's a few points raised there, let's address them. Firstly you seem to agree with me, that he does not have the authority to tell people what they can or can't be offended by;"leftist liberal social justice retards"

"you have some insecurity issues to work out"

"fucking retarded to be offended of in the first place"

Sorry what? "you no longer have to listen to all these people", I don't know what world you're living in but that is simply not the case, where you work and where you choose to enjoy yourself forces you to listen to people. Point blank, wherever discrimination occurs, it should be confronted, ignoring it does nothing but allow it to ferment."It is important to listen to these people, and seriously consider them until you reached a certain unmarked level of wisdom" - Errr noooo. I'm not against freedom of speech, but if someone is talking blatant bollocks, you can be dam sure I'm not going to take them seriously."should you really be offended by many things society says and does?" Depends on the society, if they're stigmatising, belittling a section of society I think you should be, because it's attack on us all, but that's a different line of conversation."Would you seriously have that ruin your day?" YEs it does, to know that someone has belittled a section of society to make themselves seem superior sickens me."People are people, don't let it ruin your day if it isn't doing any serious harm to you that you cannot easily, with a click of a button, solve or prevent.

You may choose to be offended, and you can definitely choose whether to let it ruin your day or not."

SOrry this is such an ignorant statement, your on a public internet forum, how the fuck do you know it's not done any harm, not isolated out individuals who feel intimidated by joining in any discussions. Again ignorance AND stupidity does not go away by ignoring it, it festers and grows.

3. Well it seemed to have an effect on him because he seems to of yet produced his spinal column to respond to me.Also, I wouldn't call the rise of fascism, the outbreak of global war and the mass murder of millions of people (CIVILIANS, not just in the holocaust) across the world, all lasting around a decade... an "event".

I perfectly understand his angle, come across many times, but as I explained before, it's an unsustainable flawed opinion, that was my point.

4. Yea I was hoping to keep it brief but if you seriously need an explanation of the comparison I was making of the statement "Political correctness is going to destroy this world I swear." to his previous downplaying of the events of WW2, then I hope you appreciate that i'm not going to write essays for your inability to catch a basic point.

5. Well I guess our specifications for a loser are different then, I certainly class people drawing dicks with swastikas on them as fitting nicely in the loser category.

6. Well I beg to differ, it may seem like semantics but I work with many people with learning and physical disabilities, spot any derogatory words in his rant that may apply to them? Let alone him telling people it's stupid to be offended by the N word...

7.!!!! You do realise that was essentially the point I was making don't you??

I also think it should be brought back, what i'm contending is his opinion, and essentially what is your very sophisticated argument, for your right to abuse people, which IMHO, is fucking pathetic.

1: He was campaigning because the government was violating our rights, and the consititution. To preserve as many rights as possible is a libertarian view. The person you attacked was maintaining that exact view. He wanted people to be able to write notes regardless of racism. That's libertarian. His picture isn't hypocritical.

Snowden: Violating privacy right for security, fights for rights

Craux: Preventing players from being able to do something for less offense, fights for rights (in a sense, not literally)

2:

No, you don't have to. You don't have to listen to your boss, if you don't you get fired, or maybe you do something extra extra special and you don't. Whatever.

I agree with discrimination needs to be confronted. Thing is there is no discrimination in this game. People write bad racial stuff on paper in a game. Yet it is not infringing on rights, nor is it preventing blacks or whatever to do what most people do.

Well it sickens me too. So lets remove a feature on a game because someone is saying bad stuff about that group to make hinself feel better. Yes people are offended, but have you realized how many people of the attacked are not offended? In real life what do you do to make a bully stop without violence or telling administration who do nothing? You ignore them. It's the best tactic against this hate speech. No one gives a audience, levels lower. Education then will fully destroy their ignorance.

Intimidated, by what? By offensive people on the forums? If so then what? They are intimidated, but they aren't letting it ruin their day, if so, it is their fault they are coming everyday to read this stuff to hurt themselves. Even more so they know, or should know, the forum rules, so they can report peope as they please, and mods determine whether, like your post, is attacking and uncontributing.

Stupidity only "grows" by sex. If stupid people have sex, they might have stupid children. Ignorance can "grow" if proper education is not administered and, if they have ideas that are wrong, if they spread it around and convince others, which only really happens to children, or people who are not firm in their belief that it is wrong and what not, which means they are ignorant too.

3: It's still a event, whether you like to call it that or not.

3 people are shot in the house, would you call it a massacre? I would not "like" to call it that but it is a massacre.

Would you call a 6 year old forcibly kissing girls without consent sexual harassment (story on news)? I wouldn't but technically it is. Although the kid shouldn't be punished.

4: Well ok, I was attempting to show you how these points are wrong and whatnot, including lack of proof.

5: a. One that fails consistently, especially a person with bad luck or poor skills

In the dictionary. Drawing penises and a symbol doesn't make him a loser by this definition.

Masturbating doesn't make a sinner or loser (I don't believe in god just trying to relate to you) I can still repent and get a job and have a wife.

6:

Retarded is the proper term for "intellectually disabled" children.

Retarded means slow.

I don't understand why other people would call them intellectually disabled, because that is literally calling them stupid, when they are just slow in certain areas.

Intellectually: intelligence

Disabled: capped off at a point, unable to reach full potential

So, this means, a person whos intelligence in certain areas is capped off, unable to be reached. He cannot go over what the disability sets him at.

A person who compared to normal people in terms of science, has their maximum intellectual capacity lowered, meaning, they will never be able to achieve what a normal person can.

Retarded means slow, it might take time and there is obstacles but it can still be reached.

Retarded is being turned into a synonym with stupid.

Well guess what, people are turning cook into a synonym with diss, or mock.

Kids and young adults are usually the only people saying this. Usually they don't even mean offense.

Not all of the mentally retarded are offended. Same as not all blacks are offended by nigger.

Nigger was startwd during slavery, a time of oppression for slaves, (not just blacks thank you) retard started out as medical terminology and was used for the original IQ scale. There was no opperession.

7: Yes, and I am stating that also applies to you.

[omgwtfbbq (DayZ) 1069]

"ONLY ONE MAN CAN FULFILL THE PROPHECY. HE WITH THE COURAGE TO BRING THE SACRED DEW TO THE CONNECTION TO THE HEAVENS WHEN THE MOON IS CONCEALED. HE WITH THE WILLPOWER TO INGEST THE DEW IN SUCH A PLACE WILL RECEIVE TREASURES BEYOND COMPREHENSION."

 

 

 

 

(Bring Mountain Dew to Green Mountain on a moonless night. Drink, be rewarded. Would have worked in the mod version but with Mountain Dew and all brand names removed it sadly isn't possible anymore. Maybe rocket could have a contract with Mountain Dew. Mountain Dew continues to be rare as hell, Mountain Dew promotes DayZ, DayZ promotes Mountain Dew. It works :D)

Edited January 16, 2014 by omgwtfbbq

[Space Milk 195]

"ONLY ONE MAN CAN FULFILL THE PROPHECY. HE WITH THE COURAGE TO BRING THE SACRED DEW TO THE CONNECTION TO THE HEAVENS WHEN THE MOON IS CONCEALED. HE WITH THE WILLPOWER TO INGEST THE DEW IN SUCH A PLACE WILL RECEIVE TREASURES BEYOND COMPREHENSION."

 

 

 

 

(Bring Mountain Dew to Green Mountain on a moonless night. Drink, be rewarded. Would have worked in the mod version but with Mountain Dew and all brand names removed it sadly isn't possible anymore. Maybe rocket could have a contract with Mountain Dew. Mountain Dew continues to be rare as hell, Mountain Dew promotes DayZ, DayZ promotes Mountain Dew. It works :D)

What does this have to do with pen and paper?

[3rdparty 229]

1: He was campaigning because the government was violating our rights, and the consititution. To preserve as many rights as possible is a libertarian view. The person you attacked was maintaining that exact view. He wanted people to be able to write notes regardless of racism. That's libertarian. His picture isn't hypocritical.

Snowden: Violating privacy right for security, fights for rights

Craux: Preventing players from being able to do something for less offense, fights for rights (in a sense, not literally)

2:

No, you don't have to. You don't have to listen to your boss, if you don't you get fired, or maybe you do something extra extra special and you don't. Whatever.

I agree with discrimination needs to be confronted. Thing is there is no discrimination in this game. People write bad racial stuff on paper in a game. Yet it is not infringing on rights, nor is it preventing blacks or whatever to do what most people do.

Well it sickens me too. So lets remove a feature on a game because someone is saying bad stuff about that group to make hinself feel better. Yes people are offended, but have you realized how many people of the attacked are not offended? In real life what do you do to make a bully stop without violence or telling administration who do nothing? You ignore them. It's the best tactic against this hate speech. No one gives a audience, levels lower. Education then will fully destroy their ignorance.

Intimidated, by what? By offensive people on the forums? If so then what? They are intimidated, but they aren't letting it ruin their day, if so, it is their fault they are coming everyday to read this stuff to hurt themselves. Even more so they know, or should know, the forum rules, so they can report peope as they please, and mods determine whether, like your post, is attacking and uncontributing.

Stupidity only "grows" by sex. If stupid people have sex, they might have stupid children. Ignorance can "grow" if proper education is not administered and, if they have ideas that are wrong, if they spread it around and convince others, which only really happens to children, or people who are not firm in their belief that it is wrong and what not, which means they are ignorant too.

3: It's still a event, whether you like to call it that or not.

3 people are shot in the house, would you call it a massacre? I would not "like" to call it that but it is a massacre.

Would you call a 6 year old forcibly kissing girls without consent sexual harassment (story on news)? I wouldn't but technically it is. Although the kid shouldn't be punished.

4: Well ok, I was attempting to show you how these points are wrong and whatnot, including lack of proof.

5: a. One that fails consistently, especially a person with bad luck or poor skills

In the dictionary. Drawing penises and a symbol doesn't make him a loser by this definition.

Masturbating doesn't make a sinner or loser (I don't believe in god just trying to relate to you) I can still repent and get a job and have a wife.

6:

Retarded is the proper term for "intellectually disabled" children.

Retarded means slow.

I don't understand why other people would call them intellectually disabled, because that is literally calling them stupid, when they are just slow in certain areas.

Intellectually: intelligence

Disabled: capped off at a point, unable to reach full potential

So, this means, a person whos intelligence in certain areas is capped off, unable to be reached. He cannot go over what the disability sets him at.

A person who compared to normal people in terms of science, has their maximum intellectual capacity lowered, meaning, they will never be able to achieve what a normal person can.

Retarded means slow, it might take time and there is obstacles but it can still be reached.

Retarded is being turned into a synonym with stupid.

Well guess what, people are turning cook into a synonym with diss, or mock.

Kids and young adults are usually the only people saying this. Usually they don't even mean offense.

Not all of the mentally retarded are offended. Same as not all blacks are offended by nigger.

Nigger was startwd during slavery, a time of oppression for slaves, (not just blacks thank you) retard started out as medical terminology and was used for the original IQ scale. There was no opperession.

7: Yes, and I am stating that also applies to you.

1. I cannot see your connection between Snowden's expose on mass surveillance and calls for privacy rights and his, or probably your, desire to throw abuse at specific slithers of society in name of freedom of speech. Where I see the connection is his Snowden avatar and the quote as you already know, "leftist liberal social justice retards". If you really want to get into semantics about specifics of ideologies without considering that it's much harder to attain people's political views than simply assigning a huge organ of a philosophy or ideology, let alone subjective interpretation.

2. "No, you don't have to. You don't have to listen to your boss, if you don't you get fired, or maybe you do something extra extra special and you don't. Whatever." 

What's extra extra special for your boss?

"I agree with discrimination needs to be confronted."

Well your certainly not putting up much of a fight against it here, I never said I wanted the pen and paper removed until something is done about potential prejudice, don't even know if it's been confirmed that's the reason why it's been taken off so i'm not arguing for it's removal. I'm arguing for someone's perceived interpretation of their right to throw categorically designated abuse out into the public domain, that isn't based on their organisational connections but their genetic, geographical and life choices.

But your argument that it doesn't harm anyone is wrong, not too sure where your from but i'm sure you would of come across classic rag mag page filler on teenage suicides from bullying, words can deeply damage people's psychology and physical health too (and i'm not even referring to suicide or self harm there).

 

People have choices to avoid this kind of abuse? Err no they don't. But they do have a choice to confront it, which you claim to agree with.

I work in education mate. I know its horrors, won't even try to debate you there, but believe me that is not a sound strategy for bullying or ignorance.

 

"Stupidity only "grows" by sex. If stupid people have sex, they might have stupid children" Do I need to explain my response further?

Finally 3. Yeeea I like to think of it as a period of history rather than an event, I like to think I could roughly describe an event in under 30 minutes or so.

4."attempting to show you how these points are wrong ... including lack of proof."

"Provided no argument, your opinion, his opinion. No need to be insulting." - This is a statement not an attempt to show me anything. What proof do I need to provide and how could I possibly further help you connect the dots to understand the point I was making.

5. Well again, semantics. But then again, I bet it doesn't say anything about having a wife and a job being a winner.

6. Well then clearly you havn't seen the spectrum of disability, and I don't know where you're from but it's recognised in legislation as derogatory where I am. Because it is, your traditional definition is correct in history but as with every term that has been shorthanded for broadly (and ignorantly really) describing all disabled people, the term has usually ended up catching on in society as being aimed at anything stupid, as per example here.

God, I wish I never read this now.

Not everyone can reach the same level in education, no matter how much time they have, but given that (at least in my country) the education system is incredibly standardised and limited, that doesn't mean it's accurately measured intelligence.

Why do you have to be black to be offended by racism? Why do you have to be disabled to be offended by... ableism?

And if you want to get into semantics nigger means black slave.

There are two main models on "disabled" people, the medical model and the social model. The medical model suggests that it is a physical or mental abnormality that must be ideally corrected. The social model sees the environment that needs correcting, as much as we shaped stairs, because it efficiently matched our legs for reaching higher levels in a structure, we must also shape the environment for disabled people who are as important and integrated into our economy as we are.

That goes for changing shitty attitudes too who believe it is their right to empower their internal narrator by belittling others.

7. Disabled people have been discriminated for a very VERY long time and still are today.

ED: Also I'd like to point out as well that I don't think my posts are uncontributing, they're certainly addressing an individual's attitude but I would reckon it's fairly common or uninterested. But IF the actual reason pen and paper has been disabled is because of prejudice, which I hope it isn't, then I'm sure the dev team will be acutely aware of any potential bad public relations, or possibly media campaigns, I don't know. But what I do know is that if that is the case it'd be far better if the solution is created on the forums where there's an attitude towards it akin to battle loggers or server hoppers.

Edited January 16, 2014 by 3rdParty

[Daemonkid 493]

Let me able to pin papers to road signs. That way I can write the names of towns I come across in English. 

[Space Milk 195]

1. I cannot see your connection between Snowden's expose on mass surveillance and calls for privacy rights and his, or probably your, desire to throw abuse at specific slithers of society in name of freedom of speech. Where I see the connection is his Snowden avatar and the quote as you already know, "leftist liberal social justice retards". If you really want to get into semantics about specifics of ideologies without considering that it's much harder to attain people's political views than simply assigning a huge organ of a philosophy or ideology, let alone subjective interpretation.

2. "No, you don't have to. You don't have to listen to your boss, if you don't you get fired, or maybe you do something extra extra special and you don't. Whatever."

What's extra extra special for your boss?"I agree with discrimination needs to be confronted."

Well your certainly not putting up much of a fight against it here, I never said I wanted the pen and paper removed until something is done about potential prejudice, don't even know if it's been confirmed that's the reason why it's been taken off so i'm not arguing for it's removal. I'm arguing for someone's perceived interpretation of their right to throw categorically designated abuse out into the public domain, that isn't based on their organisational connections but their genetic, geographical and life choices.

But your argument that it doesn't harm anyone is wrong, not too sure where your from but i'm sure you would of come across classic rag mag page filler on teenage suicides from bullying, words can deeply damage people's psychology and physical health too (and i'm not even referring to suicide or self harm there).

People have choices to avoid this kind of abuse? Err no they don't. But they do have a choice to confront it, which you claim to agree with.

I work in education mate. I know its horrors, won't even try to debate you there, but believe me that is not a sound strategy for bullying or ignorance.

"Stupidity only "grows" by sex. If stupid people have sex, they might have stupid children" Do I need to explain my response further?

Finally 3. Yeeea I like to think of it as a period of history rather than an event, I like to think I could roughly describe an event in under 30 minutes or so.

4."attempting to show you how these points are wrong ... including lack of proof." "Provided no argument, your opinion, his opinion. No need to be insulting." - This is a statement not an attempt to show me anything. What proof do I need to provide and how could I possibly further help you connect the dots to understand the point I was making.

5. Well again, semantics. But then again, I bet it doesn't say anything about having a wife and a job being a winner.

6. Well then clearly you havn't seen the spectrum of disability, and I don't know where you're from but it's recognised in legislation as derogatory where I am. Because it is, your traditional definition is correct in history but as with every term that has been shorthanded for broadly (and ignorantly really) describing all disabled people, the term has usually ended up catching on in society as being aimed at anything stupid, as per example here.

God, I wish I never read this now.

Not everyone can reach the same level in education, no matter how much time they have, but given that (at least in my country) the education system is incredibly standardised and limited, that doesn't mean it's accurately measured intelligence.

Why do you have to be black to be offended by racism? Why do you have to be disabled to be offended by... ableism?

And if you want to get into semantics nigger means black slave.

There are two main models on "disabled" people, the medical model and the social model. The medical model suggests that it is a physical or mental abnormality that must be ideally corrected. The social model sees the environment that needs correcting, as much as we shaped stairs, because it efficiently matched our legs for reaching higher levels in a structure, we must also shape the environment for disabled people who are as important and integrated into our economy as we are.

That goes for changing shitty attitudes too who believe it is their right to empower their internal narrator by belittling others.

7. Disabled people have been discriminated for a very VERY long time and still are today.

ED: Also I'd like to point out as well that I don't think my posts are uncontributing, they're certainly addressing an individual's attitude but I would reckon it's fairly common or uninterested. But IF the actual reason pen and paper has been disabled is because of prejudice, which I hope it isn't, then I'm sure the dev team will be acutely aware of any potential bad public relations, or possibly media campaigns, I don't know. But what I do know is that if that is the case it'd be far better if the solution is created on the forums where there's an attitude towards it akin to battle loggers or server hoppers.

1: Jesus christ if you don't understand it you could at least educate yourself between postings on the ideology I mentioned, libertarianism, and you would have a better chance of understanding it, and my view.

SNOWDEN, did a expose on this thing violating privacy rights, EVEN THOUGH it helps the security of the people. The libertarians view is RIGHTS AT ANY COST. Snowden is libertarian.

Craux, who I am guessing is libertarian wants players(relate to people) to be able to use pen and paper, even though it might offend people, and from what you are saying, kill people. This is also a libertarian view. When craux said stupid leftist liberal retards, that doesn't mean libertarians. Libertarians are not necessarily left, or usually included on the left. He is excluding himself. These "liberal retards" he mentions, are what he believes are the kind of people who don't want this coming back.

Snowden is a self proclaimed libertarian.

He is not hypocritical when he mentions stupid leftist liberal retards because it doesn't include, most of the time, libertarians. And he is assuming that these ar the people who want to, in a sense, restrict free speech, in a game.

2: Can be sex, oral sex, foreplay, or just doing the project he wants you to do in a way he doesn't want you to, but ends up doing better than his suggestion and you get rewarded.

3: I'm not because that is not what I am arguing for right now, and I think it has been discussed to death and has won countless of times that discrimination must be confronted, so I will not be doing a replay.

Yes I have. I was suicidal myself, though that is a part of my life I wish to forget.

When people write bad stuff on paper in a game, it is not directed at anyone. That is the major difference between that and many situations in real life where it is directed. If it was directed in the game, THEN I would approve some form of punishment for the attacker, but when you broadly attack, like spraying a .22 machine gun 360 degrees, not only will you rarely even affect some one significantly, it will likely not push that person to depression, or death in this case, unless already heavily injured mentally, or physically in this case.

If the person was, mentally hurt, then that person should know that the Internet is a hate spewed place because people do what ever they want here, and they want to do whatever they want like children, which means acting foolish. If a person who is weak goes into the internet, or the battlezone, and he comes across a comment that hurts him, or a stray bullet from 22 spray hits him, then it is their fault. They knew the dangers to their mental health, and should have made a wiser choice. The internet is ubiquitous now. No reason to say "I didn't know."

4: Yes it is, it is telling you there is no proof, argument, nothing, which means it should be dismissed as it has no value, You need a argument, no matter how much "the dots connect."

5: No, but the word wealthy and it's antynoms doesn't say anything about living in a shack and being poorer than dirt.

6: Should we do away with autistic too? Down syndrome? If you haven't noticed, as I am guessing you might be focused on retard (the word not your patients) people are saying "lol im autistic. LMFAO nigga got down seendrum bro"

Doesn't matter how defined they are, society is going to take every word related to a negative condition and use it as a bat.

I never said tests measure intelligence. The standardized testing here is the same, limited and such, Tests really only measure knowledge (which hopefully you know is different from intelligence) and the application of knowledge (which has ties to intelligence, but if they don't have the technique, this won't even matter)

What the fuck, where did I say you must be black or retarded to be offended. I experience racism all the time, no big deal, and I am not black, and most likely not retarded as I have this level of knowledge at my age and I am writing to you a well thought response. (compared to what most people would do)

They are a VERY good part of the economy. If mentally retarded people and disabled people didn't exist, it could be billions ripped off the US and maybe the world. The amount of money spent on them makes them a vital part of the economy. I would go so far to say that they are even more integrated than normal people, there are specialized products designed for this minority, they are practically a product themselves, in the economic point of view, of course they aren't actually products.

Technically, it IS their right to empower themselves by belittling others. Most people use retard not as a offense to retards, but as offense to their friends not around retards or just making foolish remarks around family and such. With the rise of the internet people are sharing these remarks and insults publicly, which mental retard caretakers like you take notice and make it a public issue.

7: Discriminated? Yes, so were all races and minorities. Whites, hispanic, but none more than blacks. Blacks have been ENSLAVED, is that worse than what happened with this minority, or whites, who were also enslaved to a point?

EDIT:

About stupidity

No it isn't. I am afraid you don't understand genetics, which is surprising considering you are a mental retards caretaker.

Stupid people MIGHT have stupid children because if their sex partner is smart or has many recessive genes for intelligence (which we have little idea what they are) and the stupid person also has these recessive genes for intelligence, then during meiosis the independent assortment might result in the recessive genes coming together, and hopefully you know some genetics to know the rest.

If you don't, recessive genes together make them expressed, so the child is intelligent, but because so many genes are there for intelligence, she still might be a carrier for stupidity, or at least a limited form of it.

Intelligent people can have recessive genes for stupidity, so EVERYONE has a chance of having stupid children. Why? Not just because of above but also because of mutations (which I will assume you do not know, even though YOU SHOULD KNOW since that is precisely what is the main cause of mental retardation) which are natural, sometimes unnatural, changes in DNA, or errors. There are many kinds of mutations, won't go into that, nor how they are caused.

But if a person is stupid he cannot become intelligent, although it is possible for him to become knowledgable, but unlikely because he os stupid.

Everyone has a chance of a stupid child,

Everyone has a chance of a intelligent child.

Everyone has a chance of a retarded child.

Everyone has a chance of a dead child.

I hope this crash course on rough genetics has helped you, but you can look up videos for it, which I HIGHLY SUGGEST, considering what you do. Crash course biology by the blog brothers are great.

Besides genetics there is also EPIGENETICS, which I won't even be touching that can of worms, you can find some videos, including on crash course biology, or the science channel made by the same guy, not the same channel.

Edited January 16, 2014 by Space Milk

[omgwtfbbq (DayZ) 1069]

What does this have to do with pen and paper?

 

OP asked what we would write on paper. I would write this on paper.

[djporternz 644]

"ONLY ONE MAN CAN FULFILL THE PROPHECY. HE WITH THE COURAGE TO BRING THE SACRED DEW TO THE CONNECTION TO THE HEAVENS WHEN THE MOON IS CONCEALED. HE WITH THE WILLPOWER TO INGEST THE DEW IN SUCH A PLACE WILL RECEIVE TREASURES BEYOND COMPREHENSION."

Sir,

 

I am deeply offended by this!

 

Dr Pepper Drinker

Edited January 17, 2014 by DJPorterNZ

[Space Milk 195]

Sir,

 

I am deeply offended by this!

 

Dr Pepper Drinker

 

You think you are offended?

Us Pepsi drinkers ain't gunna let this pass.