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My personal opinion is that allowing characters to kick in combat would be a useful feature. Beginning as a fresh spawn especially i think this would be a good feature as it would allow the player to stun an attacker or knock an attacker down and provide an opportunity for escape. The feature was effective in Dead Island although i do not propose that it operates with the same dynamic but legs and feet are effective combat tools. 

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Fists are useful enough for now, what would a kick add that a punch in the head couldn't?

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Sometimes it's difficult to get that finishing punch on a knocked down player. A kick would allow us without struggling to kick a motherf*** in the head when he's down. 

Yes, I would like to see this implemented.

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I think hes suggesting a kick that would knock zombies or ppl off their feet, but however cool that sounds its gonna be hella annoying to deal with, so i gotta say im against.

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I'm not even sure what that means. Also, kicking to the head not realistic? I guess you've not watched UFC.

 

Kicking would be a good element to add to the game. Straight forward kick would reel zombies/players with an outside chance that they'd fall over backwards. The kick could also then be used to stomp on a downed opponent.

 

Additionally, a front kick could also be used to bust through doors, although it wouldn't work every time and doors would have random strengths so some would open with one and others would take several.

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Fists are useful enough for now, what would a kick add that a punch in the head couldn't?

A kick can be the most powerful blow your body can give to another thing. In heavyweight MMA, lots of guys deliver over 1000 lbs of force in one kick. I'm not saying make our characters kick as hard as a MMA fighter, but it would still hurt.

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I think melee combat is clunky enough the way the engine is right now so I don't really think the ability to kick would be worth it. Maybe if they sort the hit detection out...

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Fists are useful enough for now, what would a kick add that a punch in the head couldn't?

 

Well for starters, a precise, hard kick to the abdomen or chest would knock people over and most likely knock the air out of them, incapasitating them for some seconds.

It would also be WAY more effecient at keeping zombies at bay, because of the increased strenght you can kick with and the increased range, compared to arms.

Ive trained karate for about 9 years now and i promise you, one well placed kick can easily incapacitate an adult, trained man, for up to 30 secs.

I like this idea alot, perhaps its hard to implement, but thats is not the discussion we are having :)

Just imagine being able to run up to a guy and kick him in the back, knocking him out for say, 5-10 secs, thats enough time to either restrain him or maybe even steal a item from him hehe.

Or what about being cornered in a house by 5 Z's, and all you can do is try to kick them, to knock them over and then run for your life.

OR even just kicking people over so its easier to shoot them afterwards, if you want that.

It would add more complexicity to both Z and player encounters, simply because it gives yet another option of handeling things.

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Kicking players while they are down would be more realistic than having to stand over them and punch them (would also make for brutal combat). However, kicking a standing zombie/player just isn't practical in a combat encounter. People talking about head kicks and how they've trained in martial arts for years - no. In DayZ, you're playing as a survivor that wouldn't have the technique, flexibility, speed or power to deliver a powerful kick to the head. I love martial arts and would love a sandbox survival game that included it as self-defence, but DayZ isn't that game.

 

The ability to kick downed players or kick a player to the floor that isn't fighting back would be brutal which fits DayZ. But using it in a fight is stupid and impractical. 

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If you're talking about kicking people when they're down (or hitting them when they're down at all for that matter) there needs to be something in the system to allow you to defend yourself from the blows, to allow you to get back up. At the moment, if you knock someone down, they're unconscious for the most part and you're free to beat them to death (or shoot them). I think the combat system lacks counter-attack function. You get knocked down, and you're in a weak position, enemy-guy approaches you to boot you in the head, you manage to time it well and counter- which throws him to the floor and allows you to both get back up and continue brawling.

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I think hes suggesting a kick that would knock zombies or ppl off their feet, but however cool that sounds its gonna be hella annoying to deal with, so i gotta say im against.

Maybe you, and everydone against this, should be more catious against new spawns? Just want everything easier in this game...

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Maybe you, and everydone against this, should be more catious against new spawns? Just want everything easier in this game...

 

New spawns? Everybody is gonna be able to do it, and its just gonna be ppl camping in buildings in high traffic areas waiting to kick someone disable them and then hold them up or easily kill em. Its going to make close quarters combat pretty retarded and guns would be close to useless in buildings. Also im already imagining all the "trolls" just trying to kick ppl off ledges, ladders etc. Hell youtube will be filled with videos of this.

 

I think its already enough that you can knock someone down with 1-3 punches to the head.

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Fists are useful enough for now, what would a kick add that a punch in the head couldn't?

 

a kick to the hip is more effective than a punch to the head. the hip is the center and hold the balance of the body.

when you use this hollywood door opener kick that we all know from movies against a hip... a zombie would fall.

roundhouse kick is nothing against this ninja kick.

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A straight forward kick to the stomach, knock over zedz, and keep players bent in pain for 1 second, enough to land a punch to the head.

And since we are here, why not a block with both hands held in front of your face and over your head, to block them punchys, who`s with me?)

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A straight forward kick to the stomach, knock over zedz, and keep players bent in pain for 1 second, enough to land a punch to the head.

And since we are here, why not a block with both hands held in front of your face and over your head, to block them punchys, who`s with me?)

 

i think that could work for sure. at least adds another element and provides new spawn players with a chance

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New spawns? Everybody is gonna be able to do it, and its just gonna be ppl camping in buildings in high traffic areas waiting to kick someone disable them and then hold them up or easily kill em. Its going to make close quarters combat pretty retarded and guns would be close to useless in buildings. Also im already imagining all the "trolls" just trying to kick ppl off ledges, ladders etc. Hell youtube will be filled with videos of this.

 

I think its already enough that you can knock someone down with 1-3 punches to the head.

 

its a survival game. if i have to use my fists and feet over a gun to survive then hell i will kick the ever loving shit out of the threat. 

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I wouldn't mind some sort of sweeping or quick leg jab kick.

The lower it is the faster it is.

Extremely low kicks could pretty much be stomps.

Stomping on a zombies shin forces it to an imbalanced lowered position from which you can whack its head for 6

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Sure beats boxing the zombies in terms of overall effectiveness.

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Could be a bitch to code especially as we have punching already...I think we need more use of the left a and maybe punching combos , classic one twos and maybe a jab or uppercut for some more fluidity in unarmed melee battle ? Eventually if the engine rocket writes for the final game suites it is love to see people sweep kicking and jump kicking and shit but for now I think we need more fluid punches :). Maybe a stomp for killing people on the ground or zombies who are crawling ?

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