theginger (DayZ) 0 Posted January 3, 2014 Hello,I am having a problem in Dayz where I simply can not record, I have used Fraps and DXtory to record yet neither of them seem to be able to maintain a steady 60fps I normally get without recording. I record of a different hard drive and play on another (both hard drives are WD Black) yet when I seem to record I am getting major frame drops to around 30fps - 45fps. If I attempt to record in other games such as Battlefeild 4, Farcry 3 etc it is fine. Furthermore I normally record at 30fps 1080p yet I can't even record at 720p 24fps without huge frame drops. Here are my system specs:Cpu: Intel i7 3770K 3.5ghzGpu: AMD XFX HD 7770RAM: 8GB corsair 1600MHzHDD: WD Black 1TB (x2) I my self believe it is my graphics card as it is showing signs of ageing, but if anyone can confirm this that would be great! Thanks, Kieran. P.S it is fine when I live stream at 720p. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NuckFuts 265 Posted January 3, 2014 Something else is the matter I think, not your PC. Unfortunately I know next to nothing about streaming or recording gameplay footage. I know, I know.. I'm of great help :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Color (DayZ) 132 Posted January 3, 2014 Try oc'ing your pc when recording. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stealth_katsu 26 Posted January 3, 2014 Bandicam works really well with recording Day Z and has no performance impact for me when I am recording in game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theginger (DayZ) 0 Posted January 3, 2014 Eh I have over clocked my gpu slightly and I did get a few extra frames, I also tried Bandicam and again I still had a dramatic drop in frames. I am going to upgrade my GPU in a months time and see what happens. Should be getting the gtx 770 or 780 :P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mos1ey 6301 Posted January 3, 2014 I see that you have two WD Blacks. Are you recording on to the one that isn't running the game? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theginger (DayZ) 0 Posted January 3, 2014 I see that you have two WD Blacks. Are you recording on to the one that isn't running the game?Yes, the game is on my main hard drive and the other I use to keep my videos and to record on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HIHBGaming 14 Posted January 3, 2014 Fraps for one is the worse of the bunch as far as FPS drop I've found. I am using Bandicam atm and had to experiment with the settings in order to get video without major FPS drops but decent video quality. With the settings I have now I get about a 3 to 5 FPS drop when recording with Bandicam. I was getting up to a 10-15 FPS drop before messing around with the settings. Obviously my settings may not work for someone, so it's best to experiment with various settings or maybe even a preset in Bandicam will work for you. I'm working with an older i7-3770 quad core as well, AMD 7870 GPU, 16gigs of DDR3. Recording to an external USB 3.0 2TB drive. Settings currently in Bandicam:Video: 1280x720FPS: 30Codec: MPEG-1Quality: 90 Audio:Channels: StereoFrequency: 44100Codec: MPEG-1 L2Bitrate: 160 I do think any software video recorder will have some kind of FPS drop, some worse than others. The only real way to relieve FPS drop is to get an external or an internal hardware video recorder. I did have a Live Gamer Portable I was using that was brilliant until it bricked, will be looking at an internal card soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theginger (DayZ) 0 Posted January 4, 2014 Fraps for one is the worse of the bunch as far as FPS drop I've found. I am using Bandicam atm and had to experiment with the settings in order to get video without major FPS drops but decent video quality. With the settings I have now I get about a 3 to 5 FPS drop when recording with Bandicam. I was getting up to a 10-15 FPS drop before messing around with the settings. Obviously my settings may not work for someone, so it's best to experiment with various settings or maybe even a preset in Bandicam will work for you. I'm working with an older i7-3770 quad core as well, AMD 7870 GPU, 16gigs of DDR3. Recording to an external USB 3.0 2TB drive. Settings currently in Bandicam:Video: 1280x720FPS: 30Codec: MPEG-1Quality: 90 Audio:Channels: StereoFrequency: 44100Codec: MPEG-1 L2Bitrate: 160 I do think any software video recorder will have some kind of FPS drop, some worse than others. The only real way to relieve FPS drop is to get an external or an internal hardware video recorder. I did have a Live Gamer Portable I was using that was brilliant until it bricked, will be looking at an internal card soon.These settings did help thanks although again my fames where flickering but not as bad. I have thought about getting a internal video recorder but right now I really do need a new graphics card and I believe Nvidia have a feature where you can record with no effect in performance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HIHBGaming 14 Posted January 4, 2014 These settings did help thanks although again my fames where flickering but not as bad. I have thought about getting a internal video recorder but right now I really do need a new graphics card and I believe Nvidia have a feature where you can record with no effect in performance. You could also try to use the GPU Codec and see if that helps. The Nvidia feature is called Shadowplay but it only records up to the last 20 minutes of gameplay so it is a bit limited. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theginger (DayZ) 0 Posted January 4, 2014 You could also try to use the GPU Codec and see if that helps. The Nvidia feature is called Shadowplay but it only records up to the last 20 minutes of gameplay so it is a bit limited.Yeah thats what its called xD I used the CPU Codec and I didn't get any frame issues at all but in the recording it did lag a little but wasn't too bad. I think I will just wait until I get my new GPU and tell you if it has fixed my problem :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alphax 99 Posted January 4, 2014 (edited) My bet is on the HDD, i have myself a WD (they are good, especially the "server"-class) what is the "write-speed" of them? (Exactly those who you have, no other revision) Also what are the timings of your ram? I suggest a SSD for recording, if the recording is done you can still swap the data to a HDD. Edited January 4, 2014 by AlphaX Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sukka 5 Posted January 4, 2014 You could also try using Lagarith Lossless Video Codec on Dxtory and see if that helps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theginger (DayZ) 0 Posted January 6, 2014 Hey there sorry for such the long reply. Firstly my write speed is 150 MBS, its completely fine on other games just not dayz. Second of all, yes I do use the Lagarith Lossless Video Codec in all of my other games and it works great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theginger (DayZ) 0 Posted January 6, 2014 Tried Bandicam did fix my problems in game play but the play back of the recording was very laggy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ocelot07 60 Posted January 6, 2014 MSIAfterburnr? I did use that and only took about 5-10fps loss using the lossless codec. But now I use shadowplay since I have a GTX 700. Takes 0 FPS hits. Can record for as long as you want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
saiboti 0 Posted January 6, 2014 I use the Live Gamer HD Capture Card. AVMEDIA Live Gamer HD No frame lose while recording. Very Good Quality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djporternz 644 Posted January 7, 2014 (edited) Ditched Fraps for Bandicam and haven't looked back, since Fraps hit the FPS way too hard. Can't use shadow play as I have a 560 Ti so it won't run on it, but funny thing is Bandicam is basically doing the same damned thing. Edited January 7, 2014 by DJPorterNZ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theginger (DayZ) 0 Posted February 3, 2014 Hey there!Been a long time from when I posted on this, I would like to say I have fixed the problem! I upgraded my GPU to a GTX 780 GainWard Phantom and now I can record with DXtory with just about 5 frames difference but Shadow play seems to have no performance hit what so ever. Here are some quick benchmarks in this video from recording with Shadow Play xD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doctorbadsign 645 Posted February 3, 2014 You could also try to use the GPU Codec and see if that helps. The Nvidia feature is called Shadowplay but it only records up to the last 20 minutes of gameplay so it is a bit limited. You can record a lot more than the last 20 mins of gameplay on Shadowplay if you set it to manual, then you just hit alt+f9 to start and stop recording Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e00c 84 Posted February 3, 2014 Bandicam works really well with recording Day Z and has no performance impact for me when I am recording in game. Yep, my PC is lower spec'd. My current card is only a 5870 + i5.. but a steady 40-60 fps & bandicam works great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marsmars 155 Posted February 3, 2014 I use Bandicam and have no problems Share this post Link to post Share on other sites