SKS A mix of DMR and M14 ?

[Capo 323]

Ugh. Long range scope on an SKS. It's mounted on the bolt carrier. Now I have a headache.

 

 

 

 

ya, i'm hoping that that's just alpha placeholder. and i MEAN alpha placeholder, not nevergetsfixed alpha placeholder. 

[-Gews- 7443]

ya, i'm hoping that that's just alpha placeholder. and i MEAN alpha placeholder, not nevergetsfixed alpha placeholder.

They should remove that ASAP.

And I doubt the 7.62x39 would even work with that scope, I posted on this in December:

 

"Zeroing" would also be laughably bad, I posted on here a couple times that the AKM in ArmA 2 said it zeroed to 800 meters, but the bullet actually went just under 1,100... put a long range scope on an SKS and the zeroing system would simply break down in the same manner (the same problem was present in ArmA 3).

They could fix the zeroing system, but I kind of doubt that would happen - it would be easier just to give it a higher muzzle velocity and make the aerodynamics better (ie copy-paste the 7.62x54R and just lower the damage) then the zeroing would work, but then you'd have a rifle with totally incorrect ballistics, which is terrible.

Edit: Maybe they've fixed this issue already, I haven't tried it yet. They were going to do so in ARMA 3, but like I said, I doubt it.

Edited January 31, 2014 by Gews

[PhillyT 554]

LOL at the comments here. First off:

- The 5.56 is the most devastating round up to 300 meters compared to the other rounds

- Past that would be the .308

- The 7.62x54R is for a wee bit longer range

- The various AK rounds have a bit longer punching power but the 5.56 shatters M196 anyway at 2500 to 3000fps, this means an open cavitation inside your body mass, unlike other rounds that punches through. The FPS depends on the barrel length of the 5.56.

 

Your SKS is a semi version of the AK with its inherent flaws of less than stellar accuracy due to the big ass gas chamber attached to the barrel.

DMRs in the market:

- HK G3 (.308)

- M14 (.308)

- Philippine Marine Corps M.S.S.R. (5.56)

- Dragunov

- HK417

 

Basically, an avvurized rifle that is intended to be used by a marksman for shor to medium range of engagement.

 

The M4 should be realistically be the best all around rifle in the game, due to its versatility. From the differnt rounds avaialble that can match the .308 in distance and penetration.

 

I am not sure where you get your information.  I have an R25 in a .308 in my collection.  The difference in plate damage at the range between it and the .223 my MP15 fires is beyond comparison (I know the 5.56 is more powerful than the .223).  I have a Stag 6.8mm, which is more powerful than the 5.56mm, and it too is quite a ways beneath the power of the .308.  Even assuming the most potent 5.56mm rounds available, you aren't adding 1000 pounds of muzzle energy to beat the .308 (or the 7.62x54 or 7.62x51).

[autoloon 285]

Man I really hate when people think the M14 and DMR aren't clearly the same gun

[-Gews- 7443]

I am not sure where you get your information.  I have an R25 in a .308 in my collection.  The difference in plate damage at the range between it and the .223 my MP15 fires is beyond comparison (I know the 5.56 is more powerful than the .223).  I have a Stag 6.8mm, which is more powerful than the 5.56mm, and it too is quite a ways beneath the power of the .308.  Even assuming the most potent 5.56mm rounds available, you aren't adding 1000 pounds of muzzle energy to beat the .308 (or the 7.62x54 or 7.62x51).

He is talking about the damage to ballistic gelatin or soft tissue by 5.56 FMJ which yaws and fragments, versus non-fragmenting 7.62 ball. 5.56 FMJ can cause more damage under certain circumstances.

[PhillyT 554]

Same argument is made for the 5.45, but really, you would need some serious tumble to match the impact of the .308, or even the 6.8 which is a more powerful round by quite a lot compared to 5.56.

[-Gews- 7443]

Same argument is made for the 5.45, but really, you would need some serious tumble to match the impact of the .308, or even the 6.8 which is a more powerful round by quite a lot compared to 5.56.

 

5.45 is not designed to fragment, it was designed to yaw. Anyways it comes down to the bullet design, not the cartridge, look at the difference between West German and US 7.62 NATO, the difference is all in the bullet due to the Germans using a thinner jacket:

 

 

With quality expanding bullets in each they would behave more "as expected". One problem is that a lot of the Russian hollow point 7.62x39 bullet have been of pretty poor quality, some were FMJ with a hole drilled in, unreliable behavior. With heavier bullets 7.62x39 is quite close in power to the .30-30.

 

Anyways fragmentation is definitely not the only consideration, it doesn't occur 100% of the time, and gelatin blocks are just that, gelatin blocks...

[terminal_boy 860]

That scope looks ridiculous on an SKS.

As for sniping with it, intermediate round does what it says on the tin. Why do you think every Warsaw Pact infantry section had a soldier carrying an SVD?

Because SKS/AK-47/AKM aren't effective past 300 metres.

[libertine 351]

I tried sniping a zombie near the barracks buildings at balota from the western most apartment building with a pristine long range scope and a pristine SKS and the bullet hit the wall behind the zombie, but about 20 meters the the left. Yikes..

 

Oh, i was crouched on a balcony though.

[Sutinen 635]

When i first read about the SKS i thought "Why are they adding something like a DMR again? It is such a lame and unfitting noob weapon". I have to know,which ammo does it use in RL and does it use a magazine?

7.62x39 and I guess it uses a magazine since it holds more than a 1 round... It's not a DMR. It's a semi-auto rifle. It's not an unfitting weapon either. Even SVD would be fitting but that's no good cause it's a "noob" weapon, am I right?

Edited January 31, 2014 by Sutinen