Carebear Detection Alarm! *Alarm Sounds*

[Powermolch 3]

Aaron' date=' i couldn't have said it better myself. This is EXACTLY what needs to happen.

Again for people who missed it, This thread is NOT to discourage people from making suggestions, there just needs to be some rules set to prevent stupidity from overwhelming the Suggestions Board.

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I only answered cause the post before was a bit harsh I think. Im all with you when it comes to forums and Suggestions. The Problem is, People who doent even look on the first page of the forums and open a thread instead of posting in one of the dozens of existing similar threads will not read this and it will not change.

If a Community grows larger like DayZ Comm did, you'll need a Forum Moderation to deal with it.

[Banicks 55]

I agree, personally hate bandits. But it's part of the game. Everyone is out to get me, given the chance I get shot by someone.

So in return, I'm going to become a bandit now, it's much easier. This however identifies an issue within DayZ - there is no reason to not shoot other survivors. Incentive should be added to not shoot other people.

I can't say what that is, because I have no idea what it could be. One thing I know is certain though, bandits won't like it. Because it would most like give a 'good player' an advantage. But bandits already have their advantage IMO - they are nameless/skinless and anonymous, any kill they make is one shot and they profit from hours/days worth of loot on the corpse in 1 second. So that is your advantage from being a bandit.

So look at it from both sides of the fence. Otherwise it is just a game of FFA with zombie inconvenience for better loot.

[fml 29]

I agree' date=' personally hate bandits. But it's part of the game. Everyone is out to get me, given the chance I get shot by someone.

So in return, I'm going to become a bandit now, it's much easier. This however identifies an issue within DayZ - there is no reason to not shoot other survivors. Incentive should be added to not shoot other people.

I can't say what that is, because I have no idea what it could be. One thing I know is certain though, bandits won't like it. Because it would most like give a 'good player' an advantage. But bandits already have their advantage IMO - they are nameless/skinless and anonymous, any kill they make is one shot and they profit from hours/days worth of loot on the corpse in 1 second. So that is your advantage from being a bandit.

So look at it from both sides of the fence. Otherwise it is just a game of FFA with zombie inconvenience for better loot.

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Ding!! We have a winner. :D

[NoxZA 2]

Only thing i want (that is still getting me the carebear stamp) is more incentives for teamwork. So that this game stops being a pure PvP shooter with some zombies tacked on top.

This is fine to suggest, I think a lot of people would like that. But it shouldn't be in the form of punishing players that kill others like the bandit skin did. Also it shouldn't have stat benefits. What I mean by this is that some time ago someone actually suggested that to encourage players teaming up they should get a health bonus because they near other players. This is what is meant by retarded suggestions.

What is fine is stuff like blood bags. Blood is effectively HP in this game, so having a "Health potion" that fully restores you but can only be received from other players is already a big incentive to find at least one player you can play with.

[Strategos (DayZ) 190]

I def agree with this sentiment.

There are some issues in the game , but none of the RPG type solutions you see OVER and OVER again are going to cut it. Dayz is something new. Its harsh and unforgiving.

People don't seem to realise that this is what makes it so enjoyable.

You neuter the game you take the fun out of it.

I've said it before the people suggesting things like this are exactly the sort of people that would complain if Dayz had no perma death and someone suggested it. "No fucking way i've worked really hard to get all my stuff i don't want to lose it " etc.

But its precisely that mechanic that makes the game game so compelling and has drawn everyone here in the first place, people need to embrace that and let go of their gaming preconceptions.

[Silverback (DayZ) 2]

Im not sure about the rest of you guys' date=' but my Carebear detection alarm has been driving me crazy.

The suggestion board is filled with: "Make Bandits show up on the map! Punish them!" or "Make NPC Traders that travel!" or "Add more powerful weapons and easier to find!" or Some other random and stupid shit.

I understand that everyone has the right to make a suggestion, but what makes people think that adding bigger guns, asking for God to smite Bandits for killing people, and adding MMORPG features would even be considered?

This is a Hardcore Zombie Apocalypse Simulator, made to be hard, and its Going to get harder.

If any of you carebears are reading this right now, i want you to grow some fucking balls and help improve current game mechanics instead of spitting out ideas that go against the games theme.

TL;DR = This is my rant on idiots posting the most fucking retarded ideas ever, if you post against it, prepare for an argument.

Again, GROW SOME FUCKING BALLS! Or quit and go back to your cookie-cutter games.

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You sir are a legend.

It's about time some one stood up and said it. There's too much nub shit trying to turn Day Z into a CoD / WoW hybrid where people never loose they're kit. See bandits on the map and all that other shit. I mean can you imagine that? If there was ever going to be a game killer that would be it.

Ignore all these idiots saying that 'Everyone is entitled to their opinion'. It's true. But not when it's a fucking stupid one.

Respect.

[heretic (DayZ) 76]

I don't know about you lot but I have a simple solution to the problem. It is 100% guaranteed to work every time... If I don't like or am not interested in a thread, I simply don't read, reply or subscribe to it. Problem solved without the need for rants or flaming.

Additionally the rant threads strike me as being equally as pointless as the daft suggestion threads that you so dislike.

Gotta' learn to separate the wheat from the chaff!

Fire retardant clothing at the ready...

[fml 29]

You sir are a legend.

It's about time some one stood up and said it. There's too much nub shit trying to turn Day Z into a CoD / WoW hybrid where people never loose they're kit. See bandits on the map and all that other shit. I mean can you imagine that? If there was ever going to be a game killer that would be it.

Ignore all these idiots saying that 'Everyone is entitled to their opinion'. It's true. But not when it's a fucking stupid one.

Respect.

Funny, the CoD arguement was about newcomers playing this game like a deathmatch, and just shoot on site.

[tiff_lee 0]

For those who can't seem to understand by what we deem as poorly thought out ideas' date=' let me give you a little refresher course on some of the sparkling suggestions some of our esteemed community members have given recently

http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=18831 - Wheelchairs so someone can wheel you around the streets of Chern

http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=18721 - Meteor Showers. Yep.

http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=16291 - Drugs. You read that right, he wants meth ingame

http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=10080 - Playable zombie race

http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=17949 - Tranq gun

http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=18375 - Flamethrowers

http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=16139 - Horses

Do I need to go on? And this is within the last 12 hours

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I think being a zombie high on drugs armed with a flamethrower while being pulled in a horse drawn wheelchair and avoiding a meteor shower is completely plausible ...

[ImaffoI 22]

And everything that gets suggested to create a *bit* less pvp is bad? As for the bad post, see my signature\/

[Powermolch 3]

I still like the flamethrower idea. ^^ Cant you exchange it with a more stupid suggestion like http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=18886 ?

[SlickShoes 21]

Rocket knows what he is doing, if people make stupid suggestions who cares? He's not going to put them all in the game just to spite you.

[funionz 7]

I still like the flamethrower idea. ^^ Cant you exchange it with a more stupid suggestion like http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=18886 ?

It's just a terrible idea.

Think of it in practice. You have an 80lb weapon on your back, that is full of diesel and napalm. You wouldn't be able to sprint, you wouldn't be able to have a backpack, and you wouldn't be able to refill it. And it turns you (essentially) into a walking bomb. And the game takes place in Eastern Europe, how would a WW2 (we haven't made them since then) american issue flamethrower make its way over?

On the surface it seems like a cool idea (yeah fire woo!), but when you start playing it out in your head, it's relegated to battlemech territory.

[maddogx 10]

And everything that gets suggested to create a *bit* less pvp is bad?

The notion of discouraging deathmatch behaviour and encouraging coop isn't bad, at least not in my opinion. It's just that the suggestions on how to do so are 99% shite.

As much as I hate deathmatching, I would hate even more to see the whole game screwed up with bandit map markers and such just in the hopes of countering it.

[Powermolch 3]

Maybe the same way all the M4 and M16 came there. But maybe you're right. The walking bomb thing is a risk vs reward. But carrying Fuel without a Backpack is not really possible thats true.

It could be more of a MadMax Thing, Vehicle or Tower Mounted if we are sometimes able to build simple structures and Defenses.

But probably not worth the effort. But still not the worst Suggestion. ;)

[JohnSmith (DayZ) 1]

Wow.

By balls grew three sizes just from reading first post.

I feel so hardcore now, this is really amazing. Or not.

[vanilladragon 1]

Im not sure about the rest of you guys' date=' but my Carebear detection alarm has been driving me crazy.

The suggestion board is filled with: "Make Bandits show up on the map! Punish them!" or "Make NPC Traders that travel!" or "Add more powerful weapons and easier to find!" or Some other random and stupid shit.

I understand that everyone has the right to make a suggestion, but what makes people think that adding bigger guns, asking for God to smite Bandits for killing people, and adding MMORPG features would even be considered?

This is a Hardcore Zombie Apocalypse Simulator, made to be hard, and its Going to get harder.

If any of you carebears are reading this right now, i want you to grow some fucking balls and help improve current game mechanics instead of spitting out ideas that go against the games theme.

TL;DR = This is my rant on idiots posting the most fucking retarded ideas ever, if you post against it, prepare for an argument.

Again, GROW SOME FUCKING BALLS! Or quit and go back to your cookie-cutter games.

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dont read them then dipshit.

yes the game is hard, for SURVIVORS. its painfully easy for bandits. you think 'carebears' (im assuming you define a carebear as someone who disagrees with your IM SO HARDCOREEEE style) are turing this game into cod? what would you call it now? its a deathmatch with zombies and a 1 hour setup time before you start killing.

grow up kid

[kieran.thorpe88@gmail.com 12]

Most pointless thread ever...

Almost as pointless as me replying

[trig 1]

As long as theye boys are playing on 3rd person view servers, with crosshairs and as long as getting weapons and ammo and avoiding Zeds is as easy as it is now, this sure as hell isn't a zombie survival mod. It's just a shooter with a bit more running to do before you get to shoot.

I don't mind banditry, but grow up already and stop calling your easy-mode-beaner-supply-route badass or hardcore. If this game were made hardcore for real, you'd be the first ones out...

[Shrapnel (DayZ) 13]

Wow, Again people miss the entire point of this thread...

How many more times do i have to say it? Here, ill put it in the OP so you fuckers can read it. Since you obviously cant take the time to skim through the 10 pages.

This thread is the result of the overwhelming stupidity of the players making outlandish suggestions in the suggestion board, You might think that its not a problem, but here is why it IS a problem.

1.) For every Good suggestion, there is about 50 - 100 horrible ones. You really think Rocket has the time time to sift through all that bullshit to find that one good post? No.

People start getting pissed because Rocket is taking longer and longer until an update, forcing him to push an unfinished update, and causing more issues. 1.7.1.3/4 was an example. 2 hotfixes within 10 hours..? Slow the fuck down.

2.) Duplicates.. Fucking really? There are almost 100 threads PURely about the Bandit Skin, Bandit Punishment, or anything else relating to the Bandit. Not to mention any other major game mechanic people want to change so it makes it easier.

This has gotten way out of hand, people play DayZ and find something, have an epiphany, fly to the forums and dont even bother using the search function, start a new thread about bandit punishment. Thats just plain laziness, and the forum moderators dont do shit about it, maybe a slap on the wrist and 1 warning point. WOODEEFUCKINGDOO! He got a warning point, and yet the thread still exists..

Again that dosnt just apply for Bandit Punishment threads, was just an example.

3.) Troll Suggestions, or not? Theres been a recent spike of these suggestions that have been completely... whats the word... FUCKING STUPID. You want meteor showers every 5 minutes? You want NPC Assasins in white robes to attack you randomly in the woods? You want to be able to rape other players? You want wheelchairs so you can wheel around cherno? You want sports cars? You want EndGame? You want NPC traders? The list goes on...

Honestly these suggestions are one of two things, trolls trying to start shit. Or stupid people wanting stupid things.

These posts are a problem for one simple reason, they drown out the good suggestions, which ties into reason #1.

I hope this opens some of your eyes to the real issue, and the true reason i made this thread.

[Guest]

QQ cry more

[Shrapnel (DayZ) 13]

QQ cry more

Im guessing you never even read anything in the last 10 pages? Get the fuck off my thread since your to fucking lazy to see the entire picture.

[Captain Speirs 9]

Nice attitude on OP.. Or should i say, if you don't like it don't read it. Huehue.

[heretic (DayZ) 76]

Shrapnel, I'm not sure that swearing at people is going to make them take you any more seriously. It may even harm your arguments more than it helps them.

As for Rocket not having time to sift through all the bad suggestions to find the good ones. I'm sure that he is big enough and bad enough to tell people that himself, if he feels it necessary. I don't think that he needs any self appointed protectors to do so on his behalf.

In addition, if the moderators aren't doing anything about it, could it be because that they don't feel it's entirely necessary?

Perhaps if you were a moderator on this forum, you would. But you aren't a moderator, so how about you let them get on with doing the job their way and concentrate on doing what you can to make the alpha test of DayZ better for all of us by making your constructive suggestions heard by the community instead of flaming other people for theirs, no matter how stupid they may seem to you.

Of course if you want to be in control of things you could always start your own forum...

Or better still your own mod!

Good luck with both of those.

In the meantime, please, have a drink, smoke a joint, take a run around the block, do whatever it takes to get it out of your system because getting worked up about it isn't helping you or anybody else.

[UbiquitousBadGuy 846]

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