Zurvivalist 300 Posted December 24, 2013 After a few "questionable deaths" One of which occurred miles from the nearest town. While I was checking out the old debug type areas.After a couple hours I stopped for lunch near some rocks . After a few minutes I was showered by full auto M4 rounds splattering all around me with no delay for reload. This shower lasted a good 45 seconds before they stopped for about 10 seconds , at which point I was teleported into an open field and shot pointblank. For me it was final confirmation. Hackers have arrived in Standalone. So , it looked like I was once again going to face the same old challenges from the mod. Hacker Hunting Season. But this time with out proper weaponry . I log out and chat with buds to figure out a strategy.In order to properly Know thy Enemy . We hit google. Sure enough a depressingly high amount of results from the top sites for these things. I wont go into great detail. But for it being sooo soon after basic launch . I am a bit surprised at just how much is available. So for those of you that like myself enjoy a bit of counter hacker hunting. Turn on your recording software. And take note of this list of what to watch out for . ESP,Give GearTeleportingUnlimited ammoNo recoil / reloadAimBot. I've already noticed a lot of the streamers and youtubers are using these in an attempt to keep there videos action packed. To the Devs. I REALLY hope you guys are tracking this and are planing a mass ban soon . VAC ban would be nice. So they lose there entire steam account. The the legit bandit players. Take a break from wasting your bullets on the poorly geared survivors . And start hunting for guys that are fully decked out.Most hackers are highly predictable in there actions and become easy to hunt down and lay traps for. To the typical none pvp focused survivor .. good luck. You really stand no chance in hell . 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orrzxz 7 Posted December 24, 2013 Thats called hackers.Welcome to video games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
synystr 118 Posted December 24, 2013 After a few "questionable deaths" One of which occurred miles from the nearest town. While I was checking out the old debug type areas.After a couple hours I stopped for lunch near some rocks . After a few minutes I was showered by full auto M4 rounds splattering all around me with no delay for reload. This shower lasted a good 45 seconds before they stopped for about 10 seconds , at which point I was teleported into an open field and shot pointblank. For me it was final confirmation. Hackers have arrived in Standalone. So , it looked like I was once again going to face the same old challenges from the mod. Hacker Hunting Season. But this time with out proper weaponry . I log out and chat with buds to figure out a strategy.In order to properly Know thy Enemy . We hit google. Sure enough a depressingly high amount of results from the top sites for these things. I wont go into great detail. But for it being sooo soon after basic launch . I am a bit surprised at just how much is available. So for those of you that like myself enjoy a bit of counter hacker hunting. Turn on your recording software. And take note of this list of what to watch out for . ESP,Give GearTeleportingUnlimited ammoNo recoil / reloadAimBot. I've already noticed a lot of the streamers and youtubers are using these in an attempt to keep there videos action packed. To the Devs. I REALLY hope you guys are tracking this and are planing a mass ban soon . VAC ban would be nice. So they lose there entire steam account. The the legit bandit players. Take a break from wasting your bullets on the poorly geared survivors . And start hunting for guys that are fully decked out.Most hackers are highly predictable in there actions and become easy to hunt down and lay traps for. To the typical none pvp focused survivor .. good luck. You really stand no chance in hell . 45 seconds might have been an exaggeration on your part. Before taking the all too familiar "I don't know what it is, so it must be 1. Aliens 2. God 3. Hackers" jump to conclusion... lets think logical here. First off, I have experienced CATASTROPHIC desync. I have literally ran from rogovo to green mountain, only to have been teleported back to rogovo and lost all control of my character. Later, I found out my desync was up to 80000? So, on everyone else's screen, I was standing in the field near rogovo with no fucks given. Lucky for me, no one walked by. Secondly, your 45 second hail of gun fire (if it wasn't exaggerated to all hell) could simply be explained by 2 guys with the 60 round clip attachment taking turns firing on you. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zurvivalist 300 Posted December 24, 2013 I wont link videos here due to forum rules. But a quick google search will show you just what all is released. There is no point trying to troll or flame this topic. I was simply making people aware, that the hackers are here in full swing , Just like in the mod. I am fully aware of the difference between lag , desync , bugs and hackers. Those of us that played a lot of Arma 2 are fully aware of whats to look for. And when a M4 fires like a LMG mainly hitting the rock I'm hiding behind. Due to its aimbot trying to auto target my head.. At a higher rate then typically allowed even in full auto. Its not a couple of guys. Its a combination of No recoil,inf ammo,no reload. I know the scripts, and know how they translate into the game. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nighhawk 41 Posted December 24, 2013 45 seconds might have been an exaggeration on your part. Before taking the all too familiar "I don't know what it is, so it must be 1. Aliens 2. God 3. Hackers" jump to conclusion... lets think logical here. First off, I have experienced CATASTROPHIC desync. I have literally ran from rogovo to green mountain, only to have been teleported back to rogovo and lost all control of my character. Later, I found out my desync was up to 80000? So, on everyone else's screen, I was standing in the field near rogovo with no fucks given. Lucky for me, no one walked by. Secondly, your 45 second hail of gun fire (if it wasn't exaggerated to all hell) could simply be explained by 2 guys with the 60 round clip attachment taking turns firing on you.You're wrong. There are hackers. I sat outside the airport and started hearing lots of gunshots. I started to look around and saw the muzzle flash of an m4 behind the hangars. I stayed still for about 3 minutes, looking for some movement and nothing (the shots came from behind a tree). After waiting a while, I was randomly teleported, and I thought it was just some kind of gltch. There was at least 1 other player in the spot along with 7-8 zombies all huddled together. I immediately left to avoid death by the other player and zombies. I joined back into another server and I looked around and realized I was in the exact spot that I had just watched the guy shooting from. Right behind the hangars. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Batbard 9 Posted December 24, 2013 There isn't really proper protection beyond Steamworks(?) currently, people are going to get past it real goddamn quick. It's an alpha. There are going to be some glitches, some bugs, and some people out to ruin everyone else's day. Try and deal with them as best as you can. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sieni (DayZ) 0 Posted December 24, 2013 VAC ban would be nice. So they lose there entire steam account. Can someone confirm that say a person is banned in rust due vac protection he is unable to play counterstrike online?I mean some people just have multiple vac bans on their account and just they just keep on getting banned again and again in games like rust. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steak and Potatoes 13480 Posted December 24, 2013 Can someone confirm that say a person is banned in rust due vac protection he is unable to play counterstrike online?I mean some people just have multiple vac bans on their account and just they just keep on getting banned again and again in games like rust. VAC bans do not damage an entire account just said game played on that steam account which rec'd the VAC ban. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmy_rustlers 24 Posted December 24, 2013 Private hive. Until then... :facepalm: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konna 149 Posted December 24, 2013 It's better to let them take advantage of the alpha so the holes they inject their cheats into could be patched. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wo3dy 111 Posted December 24, 2013 (edited) wait... so whats the link to Warz then? you mentioned the mod. not that crap game wich noone cares about... Edited December 24, 2013 by Wo3dy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zurvivalist 300 Posted December 24, 2013 wait... so whats the link to Warz then? you mentioned the mod. not that crap game wich noone cares about...First few Days of WarZ release. It was already plagued with hackers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
realitycompl3x 3 Posted December 24, 2013 It's better to let them take advantage of the alpha so the holes they inject their cheats into could be patched.I feel like that is what the dev is letting happen. They can keep making hacks, the dev team will keep closing holes until there are no more leaks. Then comes VAC and BE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZEIrage 17 Posted December 24, 2013 nice conclusions without proving single point, if it was 45 seconds, u had plenty of time to turn fraps on or to make some screenshots + which streamers are u talking about ? If a streamer hacks he is almost immidietely banned from twitch, so elaborate... and which streamer was that ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
svenbreakfast 231 Posted December 24, 2013 This is an alpha test. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
austinamjz 10 Posted December 24, 2013 This is an alpha test. ^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
synystr 118 Posted December 24, 2013 (edited) I wont link videos here due to forum rules. But a quick google search will show you just what all is released. There is no point trying to troll or flame this topic. I was simply making people aware, that the hackers are here in full swing , Just like in the mod. I am fully aware of the difference between lag , desync , bugs and hackers. Those of us that played a lot of Arma 2 are fully aware of whats to look for. And when a M4 fires like a LMG mainly hitting the rock I'm hiding behind. Due to its aimbot trying to auto target my head.. At a higher rate then typically allowed even in full auto. Its not a couple of guys. Its a combination of No recoil,inf ammo,no reload. I know the scripts, and know how they translate into the game. Well then, don't let me ruin it for you. Edited December 24, 2013 by Synystr Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
symptom 185 Posted December 24, 2013 First few Days of WarZ release. It was already plagued with hackersThat's because WarZ is and was a shit game with bad anti hacks(which it still does). It was a mod of War Inc. which is free on steam. Also, not a very good game. I hate when people try to compare WarZ to DayZ. They are 2 different games, running 2 different game engines. WarZ came and failed like everyone expected. DayZ is out and will succeed. Have faith young sir. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steak and Potatoes 13480 Posted December 24, 2013 I feel like that is what the dev is letting happen. They can keep making hacks, the dev team will keep closing holes until there are no more leaks. Then comes VAC and BE. But there is no BEC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muggerfugger (DayZ) 35 Posted December 24, 2013 We know there are hackers, and especially in an Alpha where proper anti cheat isnt even set up yet.Alpha and beta tests are designed to detect these bugs, and then fix them. Dean and the dev team have already patched up several holes that hackers were using. This game is nothing like WarZ, because unlike WarZ, DayZ actually is fun and has good honest Devs. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FroztyReaper 46 Posted December 24, 2013 (edited) Rockets post said that late 2013 we should have VAC and BE implemented.Will be nice We know there are hackers, and especially in an Alpha where proper anti cheat isnt even set up yet.Alpha and beta tests are designed to detect these bugs, and then fix them. Dean and the dev team have already patched up several holes that hackers were using. This game is nothing like WarZ, because unlike WarZ, DayZ actually is fun and has good honest Devs. Agree. They dont pull a Sergey here. Edited December 24, 2013 by FroztyReaper Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZEIrage 17 Posted December 24, 2013 (edited) This is converstaion which somebody copied from twitch guy which used a hack, its interesting check it. Switchsl: it's because his stream quality is ***Quantumai: You need to go back and play the mod some more then, they look completely differentPhilippx505: the mod looks still betterSwitchsl: and it's funny how aimbot doesn't work further then 100m because you need to lead your targetsQuantumai: Going to be so funny when the cheater dies to a legit playerSwitchsl: HHAHAKruorem: lolDymekpl92: : DSarkasm0: Quan, this looks almost the same as the modDymekpl92: wopsSarkasm0: oh wow...Cyeayo: this guy is really terribleSebasaiello: hahah guy suxCalexsing: why would he hack otherwise?Sebasaiello: true» if he has the ability to spawn items, he will most likely do it now i thinkSarkasm0: I seriously see no point for an aimbot on this gameDymekpl92: If u have good weapons.settings then yours aimbot will roxSwitchsl: lol so he runs off after the unarmed fresh spawn because anyone with a gun is to much to handle» HAHAHAHCyeayo: ahahaha» hahaha» OMGSarkasm0: LOLDingolaspl: hahahahahDruckwelle_srr: buahhahaDymekpl92: hahaHexploit: AHAHAHIkarishift: LOLDingolaspl: n00bSebasaiello: guy is an idiot, i'm outSwitchsl: killed by an axeOn_puls3: noob omg so hacks maybe are there, but u can kill the hackers pretty easily. good i was scared little bit at the start when u posted it, but after reading their forums... its full of crap, teleport works only short distances, aimbot is bad, only handy thing is prolly ESP which works 800m as wrote guys on the forums. Edited December 24, 2013 by ZEIrage Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mos1ey 6301 Posted December 24, 2013 Additional Anti-hack and Security Target Delivery: Late 2013 We are working on additional anti-hack to supplement the implementation of VAC. We have been working closely with Valve for VAC as well as our other anti-hack partner. Details of this will be released shortly. The most important thing to remember is that anti-hack is really the secondary defense - the primary defense should be good architecture. We have already identified (and fixed) several key vulnerabilities in the three days since launch. There are more we know about and I am sure more we don't. The purpose of this early phase of alpha is to identify and fix those. As our architecture now relies on the server controlling and adjudicating everything, we can close off locally controlled functions and back doors - which is what we have been doing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kefuddle 2 Posted December 24, 2013 It's better to let them take advantage of the alpha so the holes they inject their cheats into could be patched. Given that the architecture of the game was meant to make it very difficult to hack and now it turns out to be rediculously easy, I have to say that it was so easy locating and installing the hacks, I'm kind of thinking it is some kind of spoof as I can't believe the client is so open! The youtube vids suggest otherwise. I then, that the suspect the dev team will have bigger issues. SImply pluggin holes is never going to work in the long run. Never mind that in the early dev blogs, DH said that script execution would be server side which would make it virtually impossible to hack teleports and the like. The hacks (including god mode, add wep, set blood, teleport, inf ammo, etc, etc,...) that I just found and downloaded are all client side. Tell me it is a spoof. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kurokitten 5 Posted December 24, 2013 (edited) [snip]But for it being sooo soon after basic launch . I am a bit surprised at just how much is available.[snip] This isn't a launch - not even remotely. This is an Alpha game that you paid for. This isn't even a Beta game. The current rumor is that this game will launch some time at the end of 2014, I believe. You might prefer to come back then when it's a finished product. Edited December 24, 2013 by KuroKitten Share this post Link to post Share on other sites