ZedsDeadBaby 2287 Posted December 21, 2013 Any of the pre-release devblogs. Rocket has said countless times that he wants to focus on civilian and low grade military weaponry as .50cal rifles, TWS, etc. do not fit the setting. I so rarely disagree with rocket. That's just stupid. What is a setting in which military assault rifles "fit" but sniper rifles do not? Weird. Oh, well. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diggydug (DayZ) 331 Posted December 21, 2013 If they add .50 cals (or other heavy duty rifles) they should include wind, of which there obviously is and make them a pain in the ass to lug around. No stuffing them in a pack so you can carry an assault rifle as well. Quick to damage and become nigh ineffective, and rare as hell. However, with server hopping being so easy the rarity won't even stop most people so until that's solved, no. The only reason people want these rifles is for easy sniping on other unsuspecting players just to be dicks. I'm okay with killing, I killed a guy 50m away from me today because him and his pal were probably responsible for two other murders and I was saving my own hide. However, getting rifles like this for the sake of camping up with your beans and canteen to ruin other peoples' day is just not what I think the SA is about, otherwise ammo would be a bit more plentiful, along with scopes and compatible rifles.____________ I love having attachable scopes, even for a good range, but not crazy powerful anti-material rifles to go along with them when we don't even have "material" to shoot at yet. They're only used for killing someone who isn't a threat that didn't know you even existed anyway. Marksman rifles should be about as high as it goes if you ask me. (SVD and DMR...if the DMR even) 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mos1ey 6301 Posted December 21, 2013 (edited) I dont even want a TWS, I just dont see why a normal AS50 wont be added. Because it's an anti-material rifle that weighs 15kg, fires explosive ammunition and requires heavy maintenance. It has no place in a gritty survival sim. Edited December 21, 2013 by Mos1ey 16 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.VincenT. 45 Posted December 21, 2013 Because that's all people want to do. Troll player trying to play this game. You want to pvp? Meet them on the field head on. Don't hide 800 meters out to kill players and not even loot them. I snipe on the Mod and there is nothing satisfying about it.Yay! I killed guy with my AS50 overpowered sniper. Shot him in the foot and killed him. I'm awesome at sniping!!If that statement is you, then go play a battlefield 4 or Call of Duty. Or wait......you can play ARMA 2 and ARMA 3.Snipers kinda ruin a zombie apocalypse game. Fight someone for their loot, not just to troll other players cause you think it's skills.Also, hearing stuff like this just makes me wanna build a rifle that is as close as possible to a sniper, chill myself on Vysota with some beens and snipe everything that moves, maybe you can see no joy in sniping, other people do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mos1ey 6301 Posted December 21, 2013 Also, hearing stuff like this just makes me wanna build a rifle that is as close as possible to a sniper, chill myself on Vysota with some beens and snipe everything that moves, maybe you can see no joy in sniping, other people do. You can fit a scope on the Mosin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dulix11 731 Posted December 21, 2013 Because it's an anti-material rifle that weighs 15kg, fires explosive ammunition and requires heavy maintenance. It has no place in a gritty survival sim. Also, since when can an average joe lug a rifle like this around and operate correctly without breaking his arm in the process of firing it? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.VincenT. 45 Posted December 21, 2013 Because it's an anti-material rifle that weighs 15kg, fires explosive ammunition and requires heavy maintenance. It has no place in a gritty survival sim.so what, what makes you think that you couldnt find it in a military base, maybe youd have to replace your backpack for it or something to make it a pain in the ass to carry around, but just leaving it out? DayZ without AS50 is no real DayZ. The AS50 was always like the high end goal to archive, along with a car. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
symptom 185 Posted December 21, 2013 If your getting sniped, its your own fault, then you suck. DONT blame the damn AS50 for it. OP? If you stand still in the middle of an field and then wonder why your dead you blame the snipers? Cmon. This reminds me of CSGO where everybody calls out hacks when somebody is better than them. Banditry is a part of survival, and youll probably never know what you would do in a real life situation since you wont be in a zombie apocalypse so dont come with that shit. If I snipe someone in BF4 there is no reward, if I snipe someone here I have loot. There is just no real reason to not add them, its just little kids like you crying that make other kids cry even more.Wow, this is your defense as to why it should be added?? I think someone will be handicapped if they do not add the AS50 and other snipers I mentioned earlier. I don't think you have the skills to fight someone head on. You have to HIDE and troll players. You're the only one crying about the snipers. You want them added so bad you can taste them. Too bad son. Give us a reason why they should be added. Then present that to Rocket. I doubt you have a good reason, other than to troll players trying to play the game. But, let's hear it bud......Btw, there isn't a gun out there that should be able to kill you by shooting you once in the foot or hand. Not to mention, I never said anything about "hacks". That was you and your ego. When you want to have a sniping contest come see me. You're not even on my level. I'm good at sniping, but you don't hear me bitching about them not adding those weapons in the game. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hells high 676 Posted December 21, 2013 (edited) Adding a scope to an enfield-... Wait what game are you playing? Also yes, hand selecting the best performing and most accurate hunting/service rifles and adding precision optics to them is literally creating a sniper rifle. Just because they now make dedicated sniping rifles doesn't change that. Edit: Also the Remington 700 is a hunting rifle that military and law enforcement adopted for sniping. Edited December 21, 2013 by Hells High 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
louist 163 Posted December 21, 2013 You can fit a scope on the Mosin. Are there any scopes that fit on the M4? I've found two, but neither fit. The only mod I found that did apply was the bipod, and I'm not sure it had an impact, as the character was wiped before I got a change to fire it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.VincenT. 45 Posted December 21, 2013 Also, since when can an average joe lug a rifle like this around and operate correctly without breaking his arm in the process of firing it?Also since when can an average joe load, fire and handle an m4a1 or add attachments to it? Cmon just please be quiet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.VincenT. 45 Posted December 21, 2013 Wow, this is your defense as to why it should be added?? I think someone will be handicapped if they do not add the AS50 and other snipers I mentioned earlier. I don't think you have the skills to fight someone head on. You have to HIDE and troll players. You're the only one crying about the snipers. You want them added so bad you can taste them. Too bad son. Give us a reason why they should be added. Then present that to Rocket. I doubt you have a good reason, other than to troll players trying to play the game. But, let's hear it bud......Btw, there isn't a gun out there that should be able to kill you by shooting you once in the foot or hand. Not to mention, I never said anything about "hacks". That was you and your ego. When you want to have a sniping contest come see me. You're not even on my level. I'm good at sniping, but you don't hear me bitching about them not adding those weapons in the game.If your getting shot in the foot by a .50 cal he round, bro, let me tell you, your foot is off and youll bleed out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZedsDeadBaby 2287 Posted December 21, 2013 Because it's an anti-material rifle that weighs 15kg, fires explosive ammunition and requires heavy maintenance. It has no place in a gritty survival sim. You can make the same argument about assault rifles or pretty much anything except shotguns and hunting rifles which is boring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.VincenT. 45 Posted December 21, 2013 Are there any scopes that fit on the M4? I've found two, but neither fit. The only mod I found that did apply was the bipod, and I'm not sure it had an impact, as the character was wiped before I got a change to fire it.yea there are, reddot and acog is what ive found so far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mos1ey 6301 Posted December 21, 2013 (edited) so what, what makes you think that you couldnt find it in a military base, maybe youd have to replace your backpack for it or something to make it a pain in the ass to carry around, but just leaving it out? DayZ without AS50 is no real DayZ. The AS50 was always like the high end goal to archive, along with a car. I see you conveniently left out the maintenance? xD Well it was removed from the mod way back... And IMO it changed DayZ for the better. Are there any scopes that fit on the M4? I've found two, but neither fit. The only mod I found that did apply was the bipod, and I'm not sure it had an impact, as the character was wiped before I got a change to fire it. You can fit an ACOG sight to the M4 which gives a decent amount of zoom. You can make the same argument about assault rifles or pretty much anything except shotguns and hunting rifles which is boring. To a much lesser extent. None of the rifles that will be featured in the game are as heavy or require the same amount of maintenance as a .50cal. Edited December 21, 2013 by Mos1ey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
louist 163 Posted December 21, 2013 (edited) yea there are, reddot and acog is what ive found so far. Thank you kindly. And Mos1ey as well. Edited December 21, 2013 by louist Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.VincenT. 45 Posted December 21, 2013 Wow, this is your defense as to why it should be added?? I think someone will be handicapped if they do not add the AS50 and other snipers I mentioned earlier. I don't think you have the skills to fight someone head on. You have to HIDE and troll players. You're the only one crying about the snipers. You want them added so bad you can taste them. Too bad son. Give us a reason why they should be added. Then present that to Rocket. I doubt you have a good reason, other than to troll players trying to play the game. But, let's hear it bud......Btw, there isn't a gun out there that should be able to kill you by shooting you once in the foot or hand. Not to mention, I never said anything about "hacks". That was you and your ego. When you want to have a sniping contest come see me. You're not even on my level. I'm good at sniping, but you don't hear me bitching about them not adding those weapons in the game.Also I had various fire fights in SA, against groups, against individuals, ive lost 1 - it was against a group of 3, i killed 2. Dont tell me I suck and need an AS50 to kill people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
symptom 185 Posted December 21, 2013 If your getting shot in the foot by a .50 cal he round, bro, let me tell you, your foot is off and youll bleed out.Still avoiding the question at hand.....Why do you want them added so badly? What purpose do they serve you?? I know why you won't answer. It's ok. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.VincenT. 45 Posted December 21, 2013 I see you conveniently left out the maintenance? xD Well it was removed from the mod way back... And IMO it changed DayZ for the better. You can fit an ACOG sight to the M4 which gives a decent amount of zoom.If I remember correctly it was removed like quarter a year ago, i felt like smashing my keyboard when I read the patchnotes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
symptom 185 Posted December 21, 2013 Also I had various fire fights in SA, against groups, against individuals, ive lost 1 - it was against a group of 3, i killed 2. Dont tell me I suck and need an AS50 to kill people.Congrats on your first kills. You do suck. You're in here fighting with people for an overpowered weapon. They are gone and won't be back. Get over it loser. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mos1ey 6301 Posted December 21, 2013 (edited) If I remember correctly it was removed like quarter a year ago, i felt like smashing my keyboard when I read the patchnotes. I'd say more like 6 months ago but I don't think the time frame is particularly relevant. :) Also, symptom - can we avoid personal insults please. Thanks! Edited December 21, 2013 by Mos1ey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dulix11 731 Posted December 21, 2013 Also since when can an average joe load, fire and handle an m4a1 or add attachments to it? Cmon just please be quiet. An M4A1 is very different to a .50 caliber sniper rifle. .50 caliber sniper rifles won't be added because- they don't fit the enviroment, (the AS50 nor the M107 is a Russian weapon), - they are waaayyyy too OP (and no, getting sniped doesn't mean you suck, what about all the looters who are minding their own buisness in Elektro when someone pops them from 900m away for no reason? They aren't even a threat and they get killed) - no average person can carry around a 15kg anti-material rifle and operate it with no previous training - just because there are military bases doesn't give them the incentive to add .50cal sniper rifles. Why not add jets, tanks, helicopters and APCs too? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.VincenT. 45 Posted December 21, 2013 Still avoiding the question at hand.....Why do you want them added so badly? What purpose do they serve you??I know why you won't answer. It's ok.To take out small groups or single enemys quickly without giving them a chance to react, atleast if you know how to handle it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
symptom 185 Posted December 21, 2013 If I remember correctly it was removed like quarter a year ago, i felt like smashing my keyboard when I read the patchnotes.Again, you're avoiding answering. It's people like you that made it so they were removed. Be a man for once and answer my question honestly. Why do you want them added so badly? Is it gonna kill you to answer us? Are you afraid you'll look bad? Just answer the question. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tiger205 48 Posted December 21, 2013 Wow, this is your defense as to why it should be added?? I think someone will be handicapped if they do not add the AS50 and other snipers I mentioned earlier. I don't think you have the skills to fight someone head on. You have to HIDE and troll players. You're the only one crying about the snipers. You want them added so bad you can taste them. Too bad son. Give us a reason why they should be added. Then present that to Rocket. I doubt you have a good reason, other than to troll players trying to play the game. But, let's hear it bud......Btw, there isn't a gun out there that should be able to kill you by shooting you once in the foot or hand. Not to mention, I never said anything about "hacks". That was you and your ego. When you want to have a sniping contest come see me. You're not even on my level. I'm good at sniping, but you don't hear me bitching about them not adding those weapons in the game. Someone is mad about being bad and getting their ass shot up by a smart sniper. And for the record - going head on against someone is neither smart nor manly. It's just someone being retarded. A smart guy won't even allow his target to spot his muzzle flash, let alone spot his hideyhole but here's this guy who would need a kill cam because he's too dumb and stuck up to admit that he got outsmarted.Going by your completely retarded logic someone with a Mosin is "OP" and a coward too if he's hiding while shooting while he's just being smart about surviving. Nice logic there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites