Dekkymane 145 Posted October 9, 2013 (edited) For the SA. Atleast until it is late in the game, private hives/and some mods have completely killed the original, vanilla dayz mod for me, and I'm sure it did for a lot of other people. Lets see one server..950 vehicles, 100 heli's, as50s extra barracks, generous starting loadouts, spawn with nightvision.. Self blood bag. Oh my god the self blood bag is on pretty much every server now. Thus defeating the purpose of hero's blood bagging other players -_-, and dumbing down teamwork. Edited October 9, 2013 by Dekkymane 25 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C0okieH 156 Posted October 9, 2013 Private hives are stupid, as you said 950 vehicles ect defeats the purpose of working for your loot and cars. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dekkymane 145 Posted October 9, 2013 Private hives are stupid, as you said 950 vehicles ect defeats the purpose of working for your loot and cars.Also as50's.. weren't they removed? That's stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C0okieH 156 Posted October 9, 2013 Yep as50s were removed, along with the M107. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wild_man 4442 Posted October 9, 2013 agree :beans: no private hive >:( no custom bullshit 10,000,000 heli server :huh: NO PAY FOR WIN SPAWN WITH AS50 :D just one hive, simple genius game no bullshit :thumbsup: ;) 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C0okieH 156 Posted October 9, 2013 Maybe different maps ect with different hives for each map but please for the love of god, no private hives. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogscraper 328 Posted October 9, 2013 The biggest problem with an idea like that is the genie is out of the bottle. People have already gotten accustomed to being able to have everything at will and most will not likely go back to vanilla even if quitting is the only alternative. I do intend on playing on public hives as the only reason I left them to begin with was the abundance of hackers. Once they get their network bubble figured out my one complaint should be gone. That's not to say that six months in I wouldn't want something more, and private hives might offer that extra content and experience that dlc would if it existed at that point. I agree with the OP that it would definitely help the game in the long run if they forced everyone on the same public hive for the first few months. The biggest threat to a stable community right now is the ease with which every twelve year old playing can pull just a few players away to a private hive. Once doesn't hurt anything but when the vast majority of servers have just a few players it doesn't help anyone. I always laugh at the amount of people trying to advertise this new amazing server that's loaded with absurd crap.The perfect piece of evidence of this community being broken was a post I once made on these forums. I made a joke post about a new server I opened that had thousands of vehicles, hundreds of helis and F18s, donate for an invisibility cloak, etc and people actually thought I was serious. I expected a few pages of people laughing with me and instead found people actually thinking it was real. It was kind of sad really. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wild_man 4442 Posted October 9, 2013 (edited) and make admin abuse ILLEGAL >:( LIFE BAN for guys who use 'tools' for spawn gear or find player/camp etc NO MERCY this shit is same like hackers and is EVERYTIME ON PRIVATE HIVE >:( I don't hate nothing in life but I seriously don't like these bitches ;) Edited October 9, 2013 by KoS 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheMachine 803 Posted October 9, 2013 What's wrong with self blood bags? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dekkymane 145 Posted October 9, 2013 (edited) and make admin abuse ILLEGAL > :( LIFE BAN for guys who use 'tools 'for spawn gear or find player/camp etc NO MERCY this shit is same like hackers and is EVERYTIME ON PRIVATE HIVE > :( I don't hate nothing in life but I seriously don't like these bitches ;)Strip admins from ALL their powers besides a kick/ban. Admins should not have ANY super powers, private or not, if they are caught banning someone if it's not Hacking, Cheating, spamming, or any of that the admin loses gets punished. > :( And @ What's wrong with self bloodbags, they deafeat the purpose of teamwork and good guys helping others out. Self blood bags are just stupid. Edited October 9, 2013 by Dekkymane 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wild_man 4442 Posted October 9, 2013 (edited) Strip admins from ALL their powers besides a kick/ban. Admins should not have ANY super powers, private or not > :( :beans: :beans: :beans: you speak pure sense NO ADMIN POWER FOR AFFECT GAME :thumbsup: >:( maybe after DayZ SA2 is release open this shit for community to play and ruin and cheat and destroy <_< but before??? no way don't do it, don't let them do like the mod PLEEEEEASE ROCKET :o Edited October 9, 2013 by KoS 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
applejaxc 2500 Posted October 9, 2013 What's wrong with self blood bags? So... so much for you to learn... It takes a lot of difficulty out of the game. There's no teamwork required to reach 100% blood near-instantaneously with self blood bagging. It's a useless packet of bits that does nothing but waste the time of people trying to connect to a server. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C0okieH 156 Posted October 9, 2013 That's not to say that six months in I wouldn't want something more What if Rocket made it so that there was different maps and each map had its own hive, so that you can have a new experience and say these get released each 3 months to keep the players entertatined, that is what I would like to see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dekkymane 145 Posted October 9, 2013 Those private hives keep cheaters away, OK. But then the admins become cheaters. Great! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rossums 2190 Posted October 9, 2013 As long as the standalone has a decent system in place to take care of any script kiddies and hackers it will be fine.I'd rather they only kept one 'main' hive purely because all the extra vehicles, loadouts etc. etc. are beyond pathetic and completely defeat the whole 'survival' aspect of the game.I'd be more than happy if all the silly players leave because they aren't getting everything handed to them on a silver platter - good riddance. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Castle (DayZ) 23 Posted October 9, 2013 950 vehicles defeats the purpose of working for your cars. You have to work for cars in vanilla? Certainly never seemed that way to me. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C0okieH 156 Posted October 9, 2013 You have to work for cars in vanilla? Certainly never seemed that way to me. By that I mean you have to find them, if there is 950 vehicles in a server you can find them a WHOLE lot easyier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bludy 324 Posted October 10, 2013 private hives saved this mod when scripting was out of control.i hate those servers where you play arma2 with zombies..and even more when there's no advice about what i'm going to find..once in kamenka there were two cars..fully fixed and filled. and donor perks are so stupid, specially since servers go down like snow flakes.. i hardly see SA without hives after a bit though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OfficerRaymond 2064 Posted October 10, 2013 Private hives are stupid, as you said 950 vehicles ect defeats the purpose of working for your loot and cars.This is where I kind of disagree. Drawing from what we know about Chernarus, we can conclude that there are probably well into the tens of thousands of people living there. There are roads and highways present, as well as cities and towns. How do you think these people get around? It's certainly not by walking. I believe that more cars = better post-apoc game. However, those cars should be broken and require heavy maintenance to operate. I'm not saying 1000 cars is the best option, but it is a realistic one. Depends on the context. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Caffeine 17 Posted October 10, 2013 I don't see what the problem is. If you don't like private hives don't play on them. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dekkymane 145 Posted October 10, 2013 I don't see what the problem is. If you don't like private hives don't play on them.The problem is, they're killing the official and real servers. All the populated servers are now Pay2winZ. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Caffeine 17 Posted October 10, 2013 The problem is, they're killing the official and real servers. All the populated servers are now Pay2winZ.So you want to force the majority of the player base to play what you like instead of what they like? 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OrLoK 16185 Posted October 10, 2013 (edited) Hello there IMHO you are going to have three groups. Those who like the vanilla mod (minority) Those who like the 733T UBERZ0 load out 1000 car mods Those who like the SA. I think many who like the "uber" modz will not like the SA. *devils advocate on* Why spoil the SA with those who want to water down the experience? Surely thats why the mod is now open and allowed to be modded? *devils advocate off* Im sure private servers will be along at some stage, but i personally not looking forward to em if they're going to go the way of many of the DAYZ mod servers. Then again Im a grumpy old thing. Lastly, we have to remember this is R (and Bohemia's) baby and they don't run a democracy. Its up to them what happens, be it to please the "purists" or the "masses". If R decides he wants players to be pink bunnies then bunnies they'll be regardless of what you or I (or anyone else) want. I'd consider this more after release once we know for sure whats going to happen as many things could change from here to release. Have a debate about it but dont get too wound up. Rgds LoK Edited October 10, 2013 by orlok 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brzator47@gmail.com 524 Posted October 10, 2013 So you want to force the majority of the player base to play what you like instead of what they like?Basically, you force the majority to play DayZ instead of ARMA with zombies as scenery. That's the whole point of the standalone, to be its own game rather than a mod. Wishful thinking but hopefully no private hives ever. If hacking is under control and enough new content is getting released, then there is no point in private hives anyway. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hetstaine 10852 Posted October 10, 2013 I just want Rocket to stay true to his hardcore speeches and i don't really care if private hives make it in, as long as we have enough vanilla SA servers to play on. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites