Skypill 399 Posted September 6, 2013 Hey guys, I need your opinions of these laptops. I know I know, for the same price I could build a rig, I was about to build one for ~1k, but I'm going to be moving + travelling around a lot, and until I settle down, I don't want to build one just yet. These laptops I'm posting don't have a 3.0 GHz processors, and I've looked into it, and to even get a laptop that has a 3.0 GHz processor, you need to spend upwards of 3k, which is obviously stupid. However it looks like each of these can be overclocked above 3.0 GHz, so will that solve the problem? Sager np8235http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np8235-clevo-p151sm1-p-5840.html- 4th Generation Intel® Haswell Core™ i7-4700MQ (2.4GHz - 3.4GHz, 6MB Intel® Smart Cach - NVIDIA® GeForce™ GTX 770M (3.0GB) GDDR5 PCI-Express DX11 Lenovo 510phttp://www.xoticpc.com/lenovo-ideapad-y510p-59375625-eta-midaugust-p-6166.html- 4th Generation Intel® Haswell Core™ i7-4700MQ (2.4GHz - 3.4GHz, 6MB Intel® Smart Cache- SLI (2x) - NVIDIA® GeForce™ GT 750M (4.0GB total) GDDR5 PCI-Express DX11 Lenovo 500phttp://www.xoticpc.com/lenovo-ideapad-y500-59359560-p-6052.html- 3rd Generation Intel® Ivy Bridge Core™ i5-3230M (2.6-3.2GHz, 3MB Intel® Smart Cache, 35W Max TDP)- SLI (2x) - NVIDIA® GeForce™ GT 650M (4.0GB total) GDDR5 PCI-Express DX11Get the sager one. It seems like a better laptop especially since it has a 770 Posted the relevant specs. First off since DayZ is processor intensive, will the Y500p run the game the best without overclocking since it has a 2.6 GHz processor? The Sager is most expensive, but has the best video card. The Lenovo 510p has a slightly lower quality video card, plus with SLI graphics I might get microstuttering on lower FPS, for example in Cherno. However if this really isn't a big deal, I would rather save 200 bucks and just get the Lenovo 510p. Any suggestions? Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeDave 0 Posted September 6, 2013 (edited) I'm using a laptop, Core i5 2.40ghz, Nvidia 310M, and 4gb ram. I run it okay with the literal minimal settings. However I experience a .3 second delay on everything I do, and when I type to chat, I can see it quite slow to respond due to lag but it is playable so I am happy about that. Edited September 6, 2013 by LeDave Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mos1ey 6301 Posted September 6, 2013 I'm using a laptop, Core i5 2.40ghz, Nvidia 310M, and 4gb ram. I run it okay with the literal minimal settings. However I experience a .3 second delay on everything I do, and when I type to chat, I can see it quite slow to respond due to lag but it is playable so I am happy about that. Go in to options > controls and make sure that 'mouse smoothing' is completely disabled. That might help sharpen your mouse input slightly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monoking 22 Posted September 6, 2013 (edited) :facepalm: Not everyone is rich and can afford intel CPUs And the 8350 is perfectly fine for gaming, it actually beat the 3570k in many games and programs. Just because you read something in an article does not make it true When you don't have so much money, You don't have to go for the K version. The non K version are fine and still kicks fx8350 asses most of the time and priced around the same range.What is not true? The integer/fpu story? I thought it was a fact..Or am i retard. Well overal i5 is generally better then fx8350. The Fx8350 might be better in some scenarions when "ALL THREADS" are properly utilized. These days its quite common that these games will not make a proper use of all its resources.I've seen it only perform better though in games like crysis 3.It is undeniable that i5 is a better choice for games. Haven't you seen the market share yet between the two yet that the problem amd is facing now? Especially since arma 2 does not use more then 2 threads theres no point in getting fx8350 over i5. Even this article has stated that it will not even go beyond 13.90% usage. And its even on par with i3 in arma 2...http://www.behardware.com/articles/880-13/amd-fx-8350-review-is-amd-back.html Edited September 6, 2013 by monoking Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PooPoo 13 Posted September 6, 2013 Hey guys, I need your opinions of these laptops. I know I know, for the same price I could build a rig, I was about to build one for ~1k, but I'm going to be moving + travelling around a lot, and until I settle down, I don't want to build one just yet. These laptops I'm posting don't have a 3.0 GHz processors, and I've looked into it, and to even get a laptop that has a 3.0 GHz processor, you need to spend upwards of 3k, which is obviously stupid. However it looks like each of these can be overclocked above 3.0 GHz, so will that solve the problem? Sager np8235http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np8235-clevo-p151sm1-p-5840.html- 4th Generation Intel® Haswell Core™ i7-4700MQ (2.4GHz - 3.4GHz, 6MB Intel® Smart Cach - NVIDIA® GeForce™ GTX 770M (3.0GB) GDDR5 PCI-Express DX11 Lenovo 510phttp://www.xoticpc.com/lenovo-ideapad-y510p-59375625-eta-midaugust-p-6166.html- 4th Generation Intel® Haswell Core™ i7-4700MQ (2.4GHz - 3.4GHz, 6MB Intel® Smart Cache- SLI (2x) - NVIDIA® GeForce™ GT 750M (4.0GB total) GDDR5 PCI-Express DX11 Lenovo 500phttp://www.xoticpc.com/lenovo-ideapad-y500-59359560-p-6052.html- 3rd Generation Intel® Ivy Bridge Core™ i5-3230M (2.6-3.2GHz, 3MB Intel® Smart Cache, 35W Max TDP)- SLI (2x) - NVIDIA® GeForce™ GT 650M (4.0GB total) GDDR5 PCI-Express DX11 Posted the relevant specs. First off since DayZ is processor intensive, will the Y500p run the game the best without overclocking since it has a 2.6 GHz processor? The Sager is most expensive, but has the best video card. The Lenovo 510p has a slightly lower quality video card, plus with SLI graphics I might get microstuttering on lower FPS, for example in Cherno. However if this really isn't a big deal, I would rather save 200 bucks and just get the Lenovo 510p. Any suggestions? Thanks. I think the Lenovo 510p and the Sager laptop would run it the same since it has the same processor, and that's what you will be bottlenecked by. I'm not expert though, anyone else want to chime in? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wcarrow (DayZ) 0 Posted September 7, 2013 Right now these are my specs and i think the only thing wrong with it, is my processor. Desktop or laptop? DesktopScreen resolution: 1280 * 720CPU: AMD phenom 9750 Quad-Core 2.40 GhzGraphics card: Nvidia GTX 650 Ti EVGA 1GRAM: 8 GbSSD? If you mean storage, i have 1 Tb Im think of getting a AMD FX-4350 Vishera 4.2GHz Socket AM3+ 125W Quad-Core processor. What would my FPS If i kept my computer the same and what would it be if i got that new processor?Anyone know what my FPS would be if i got the new processor? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dulix11 731 Posted September 7, 2013 Anyone know what my FPS would be if i got the new processor? You would need to get a new AMD processor, so you wouldn't have to buy a new motherboard, so something like a FX 6300 would fit that build. With that you would probably get 30 - 40 on high. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wcarrow (DayZ) 0 Posted September 7, 2013 You would need to get a new AMD processor, so you wouldn't have to buy a new motherboard, so something like a FX 6300 would fit that build. With that you would probably get 30 - 40 on high.Do you know what processor would get me 50-60 fps on high? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mos1ey 6301 Posted September 7, 2013 Do you know what processor would get me 50-60 fps on high? None, when paired with that graphics card. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wcarrow (DayZ) 0 Posted September 7, 2013 None, when paired with that graphics card.So my best option is to go with the FX 6300? cause i want to get the best that my graphics card can handle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monoking 22 Posted September 7, 2013 with Fx6300 won't get u 50-60fps either on high. Even if you have a 780GTX the cpu will bottleneck it till 30-40fps in towns. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mos1ey 6301 Posted September 7, 2013 (edited) So my best option is to go with the FX 6300? cause i want to get the best that my graphics card can handle. I'm not actually too sure about how the FX-6300 performs in ArmA/DayZ because of the way its cores are split. You might actually be better off with the FX-4350 as it's a traditional quad-core and ArmA will utilise it better. I'd hold out for advice from someone that's actually run DayZ on an FX-6. It would be worth saving up for a new card too though if you're looking to run on high settings. Edited September 7, 2013 by mZLY Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hosty 647 Posted September 7, 2013 I'm not actually too sure about how the FX-6300 performs in ArmA/DayZ because of the way its cores are split. You might actually be better off with the FX-4350 as it's a traditional quad-core and ArmA will utilise it better. I'd hold out for advice from someone that's actually run DayZ on an FX-6. It would be worth saving up for a new card too though if you're looking to run on high settings. The FX6300 is a fantastic CPU and in no way shittier than the FX4300.I have it, and I DO get 30-40 paired with a GTX 660 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mos1ey 6301 Posted September 7, 2013 The FX6300 is a fantastic CPU and in no way shittier than the FX4300.I have it, and I DO get 30-40 paired with a GTX 660 My point wasn't that it's less powerful on the whole than the FX-4350, more that it may perform worse in DayZ because of the way it's designed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monoking 22 Posted September 7, 2013 In Single threaded performance it's quite the same. I never see arma use more then 2 cores so i guess it does perform similair. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cap'n (DayZ) 1827 Posted September 7, 2013 (edited) *sniff, sniff* I smell us some Intel fanboys, gentleman. I've had a 8350 for almost a year now, and it is actually a very good CPU. When not recording, you'll be about 5-6 frames below the 3570k on average(I'm using a friend of mine as an example, he has a 3570k and a 660 ti). I've got a 7870, so my video card is pretty well suited for this game. I've found that 8350's strong suit is when recording, you get better frames and the videos even take a shorter time to download. Probably because it's an 8 core. So if you want to be a streamer, go with the 8350 over an 3570. Edited September 7, 2013 by Cap'n Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garret_Clark 0 Posted September 7, 2013 Motherboard: AMD 970 USB 3.0 SATA-IICPU AMD: FX 8320 3.5GHz Eight Core (4.0 GHz OC) Vishera CPU Cooler: Black Edition AMD CoolerMemory: 8GB DDR3 1333MHz G-SkillVideo Card: AMD Radeon HD 7770 1GB GDDR3Power Supply: AMD Certified PSUHard Drive Primary: WD Cavier 500GB, 7200 RPM Backup HDD: NoneDVD Drive: 24x DVD+-RW SATASound Card: Surround HD intergrated Also, should I get these free bonuses with the computer: Advanced Cabling, Extra Fans 120mm, Video Card overclock, or a free game download? Thanks! In case the information above I gave you is wrong: Processor: AMD FX 8320 Eight Core 3.5GHz (O/C to 4.0GHz)Memory: 8GB DDR3 -1333MHz G-Skill Performance memoryHard Drive: 500GB SATA-III 7200RPM Western Digital CaviarVideo: AMD Radeon HD 7770 1GB GDDR5 PCI-e 16x DX11DVD: 24x DVD+-RW Recorder, all CD/DVD supported, SATA-IIMotherboard: AMD 970 socket AM3+, CrossFire, USB 3.0, iGPUCase: Zalman Z9+ Advanced, temperature sensor, 4x USBPower Supply: AMD Certified PSU, optimized for bottom mounted PSUSound: Integrated 7.1 Channel, High-definition RealtekWindows: Windows 7 / 8 64bit (DVD+License+Backup DVD’s) Source: http://centauruscomputers.com/html/delphius_.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monoking 22 Posted September 7, 2013 (edited) 899USD for such system? If you are gonna get your pc build there for that price you are gonna get ripped off.70USD more for fx8350 and mild overclock?The motherboard with AMD 970 chipset aint that great either kinda on the lower-mid side. and that GPU is a laughing stock, you will able to play dayz on low with that gpu.You are better of going to a local computer shop and let them build it for you togheter for a small fee, you will save alot of money too.Add some money and get the fx8350 instead and get a better gpu like 650ti or gtx 660. Edited September 7, 2013 by monoking Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skypill 399 Posted September 7, 2013 899USD for such system? If you are gonna get your pc build there for that price you are gonna get ripped off.70USD more for fx8350 and mild overclock?The motherboard with AMD 970 chipset aint that great either kinda on the lower-mid side. and that GPU is a laughing stock, you will able to play dayz on low with that gpu.You are better of going to a local computer shop and let them build it for you togheter for a small fee, you will save alot of money too.Add some money and get the fx8350 instead and get a better gpu like 650ti or gtx 660.Totally agree. That price is extortionate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garret_Clark 0 Posted September 8, 2013 899USD for such system? If you are gonna get your pc build there for that price you are gonna get ripped off.70USD more for fx8350 and mild overclock?The motherboard with AMD 970 chipset aint that great either kinda on the lower-mid side. and that GPU is a laughing stock, you will able to play dayz on low with that gpu.You are better of going to a local computer shop and let them build it for you togheter for a small fee, you will save alot of money too.Add some money and get the fx8350 instead and get a better gpu like 650ti or gtx 660.Do you think it can play DayZ though? It's the only good deal I can find that can play dayz, and my price limit is 850$. I'm looking for a computer that can play it with 35 fps or better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mos1ey 6301 Posted September 8, 2013 Do you think it can play DayZ though? It's the only good deal I can find that can play dayz, and my price limit is 850$. I'm looking for a computer that can play it with 35 fps or better. With $850 you could build a system that will run with 30-60 FPS on high, instead of this overpriced rubbish that will struggle. You could probably put an FX-8350 and HD 7870 build together for the same price. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fenguri 0 Posted September 9, 2013 (edited) Hi @ll im planning to upgrade my processor as i have low fps in city's with my phenom 2 x3 720.has anybody experience with the new intel i5 4570 processor in dayz ? my build will be : CPU : intel i5 4570GPU : sapphire hd7850 1gbRAM : 8gb DDR3 1600Mhz cl9HDD : OCZ Vertex 3 128gb SSD how much fps can i except +- with this config ? thanks in advance and sorry for my bad english :) greets fengu EDIT : Sorry i found the answer in this post Edited September 9, 2013 by fenguri Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deebz1234 243 Posted September 9, 2013 for those of you with an i7 920,930,950 I went from 2.8 ghz to 4.2 ghz with minimal work. I have an antec 620 khuler, nothing fancy but it works well enough. over clocked to 4.2 ghz and im still sitting pretty in terms of temps HOWEVER, im now hitting 80-90 fps and 60 fps solid in laggy areas. what a difference! even arma 3 mods with high server pop are all well above 35 fps Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frytek 130 Posted September 9, 2013 Cpu: intel dual core E 6300 2.8 ghz (overclocked to 3.0 ghz).Graphics card: Nvidia geforce gt 440, Overclocked to the limit of not crashing.Screen resolution:1440x990RAM: 4 gb DDR 2.No SSD.So I wanted to ask what (cheap) components could increase fps count. Now it lags on Chernarus, playing medium-low settings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tugay5 6 Posted September 9, 2013 desktopnvidia geforce gt 630res 1920x1080ram 16bg ddr3 no ssd what would a good graphics card upgrade be? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites