Want free stuff? PAY 5 DOLLARS.

[thelonelyone 103]

This is pissing me off.

Every single good server has this thing now, you can get AS50s, Coyote Backpacks and Everything just by paying 5 dollars.

I just got killed by a Sniper in Balota, he had everything, Fresh Spawn bodies everywhere, and after a while, I'm dead, sniped. These servers are taking the Survival aspect of the game and, well, burning it.

WHAT IS THE POINT of playing a SURVIVAL game, if you pay U$5 and you got everything, What. Is. The. Point?

90% of these Donators are 12 year old children camping on Cherno.

Ok, the Admins need a little money, but they just CAN'T ruin other peoples games. You can't just say "Pay me and be the king".

What makes me wonder, is if these Admins even care about the people playing on their servers. I don't know if I'm the only one that thinks that way, but this pisses me off.

Imagine this:

Here we have a good player, a hard working player, he has only a Lee Enfield and some supplies, and he is running to Stary to get better gear, he is happy, took him 3 days to do all of that.

And here we have a Noob, he has an AS50 and a Coyote. And all he did was "Here, Admins, 5 little cute dollars".

The noob is camping by Stary, why? Because he has everything, good weapons, good gear, he doesn't need to worry.

But the good player is starving, he needs to get some food, and he only has 2 Lee Enfield mags, a soda can, a Makarov and an Alice Backpack.

In the end, he get sniped by the noob.

This happened to me. And it's not nice. I was alive for days, real life days, almost died for a camper on Elektro, but I got away, and I end up dying for this other camper. I don't understand how is this survival, there are "Fun Time" servers, thousands of cars, DMRs on every spawn, it's funny, and I like it, but when I want to play and survive for real, I get sniped by noobs.

I really hope the 50. cals get removed, this is really annoying.

PS: I understand that this is the way to get some money, but it's really unfair, and I also understand that this isn't the Admins fault most of the times, but as I said, it's unfair.

[Testwd3r235 2810]

As much as I don't like rants, I like your name.

[Devon206 (DayZ) 77]

A lot of servers do this, mostly because they want money for "Keeping the server Running" but I honestly won't want to buy something that would ruin the fun for me. Try some public hive servers, they have all vanilla stuff.

[TheDesigner 1197]

Balota Buddies.

[Auslovich 48]

Balota Buddies.

pls no.

[Beck (DayZ) 1768]

If it costs $5 it's not "free stuff" XD

http://becks-privateers.com/donate.html

Edited May 25, 2013 by Beck

[SaraMichelle 62]

Well I'm gonna tell you something my mom always said to me, "Life is not always fair!"

If you don't like them servers then

Don't play on them!!!!

[s4pphire 45]

Your own fault for playing on trash servers with ridiculous donation features.

[Saethkept 134]

Yeah, I gave you some beans, OP and have a can of sardines as well. I've run a server for nearly five months and it will remain donation free. What aggravates the issue even redder I feel, are those servers that draw players in and give them a good time to hook them, and then demand a donation to continue playing. If one cannot afford to run a server, then they cannot afford it. Putting the cost on your player base is contrary - in my opinion - to the spirit of DayZ which is a free mod based on a couple of games you must first purchase. I have also played on servers where the admins were clearly trying to make money beyond server and communication rentals to put in their pockets. That ticks me off, but if players are willing to pay to play, then I suppose that is on them.

Above the above issue, is another related matter that also rankles. That is the use of server add-ons and other code written by brilliant scripters around the DayZ community, to attract people to a server and get them to donate. I am no coder, but I have created or modified a few miniscule bits of code for use as server side add-ons and seeing them advertised on new servers as features that should be paid for is somewhat chafing. Obviously there's nothing that can be done as the code was put out there by its authors for everyone to use, but using it in conjunction with advertisements for server donations is pretty darn tasteless. What are you gonna do I guess?

The tragedy of playing on private servers is that you have to put your faith in the hands of someone who can on a whim and like some cyber deity, literally change your DayZ life to suit whatever new desire of theirs arises. I think that that is one aspect new players take some time to realize - I know I did. There are some good admins out there on private hives, and I am not claiming to be one of them. Testing dozens of add-ons by rebuilding and uploading mission and server .pbo files over and over takes a lot of time and can be too disruptive to build any sort of long term player base. I just think that newer players need to be made aware of the power held by admins of private servers, along with possible foul play dancing on the fingertips of the less savory ones.

Edited May 25, 2013 by Saethkept

[Goggalor 191]

All you have to do is log off a server as soon as you see a server-wide message about donation perks. I don't see what the problem is. They're free to play the game and run their server however they like.

[leviski 2152]

hmm

Chuck Morris?

[iPewPewU 5]

If it took you 3 days to get an enfield and supplies: you suck.

In 4 hours you should have at least a military assault riffle, handgun, supplies and a decent backpack with supplies in it.

[Testwd3r235 2810]

If it took you 3 days to get an enfield and supplies: you suck.

In 4 hours you should have at least a military assault riffle, handgun, supplies and a decent backpack with supplies in it.

Maybe it's a server where the guns are scare or maybe it wasn't 3 days playtime, he may have only played an hour a day.

[RJTurneR 112]

I hate as much as anyone else does. But it's not the admins that ruin it, its the people that actually donate for the gear. Why? I remember hearing a story about some admin who did the exact same thing, asked for donations, gave gear, etc..

A few months later, he closed the server down and rumours emerged he had mad 1000's of these people. The world is full of manipulating people, and if your dumb enough to donate to these people, then they deserve to be ripped off. Honestly, who donates for virtual gear? Idiots..

Apparently it's easy to convince your parents to give you permission to use their credit card now.

[thelonelyone 103]

If it took you 3 days to get an enfield and supplies: you suck.

In 4 hours you should have at least a military assault riffle, handgun, supplies and a decent backpack with supplies in it.

I don't suck, dude, I had to go from Cherno to Elektro, seriously, I needed blood, food and everything.

[thelonelyone 103]

Your own fault for playing on trash servers with ridiculous donation features.

It's not a trash server, as I said in the Post, it was a GOOD server. Good FPS, nice people, everything, but then came the donations.

Edited May 25, 2013 by DiscordWhooves

[thelonelyone 103]

All you have to do is log off a server as soon as you see a server-wide message about donation perks. I don't see what the problem is. They're free to play the game and run their server however they like.

Look... (Wow, doing a lots of Quotes today) ...The problem is that these servers are REALLY GOOD, they have good FPS and everything, the only thing that ruins the game is the Donations for stuff, and there are only few good servers like the one I was playing. Now I have to go search for another server to play on.

[Mr Mouse 61]

It's not free if you have to pay.

[RJTurneR 112]

Look... (Wow, doing a lots of Quotes today) ...The problem is that these servers are REALLY GOOD, they have good FPS and everything, the only thing that ruins the game is the Donations for stuff, and there are only few good servers like the one I was playing. Now I have to go search for another server to play on.

Don't worry about it, some people here try and focus the issue on the user, rather than the actual issue at hand.

Look on the bright side. These admins that ask for donations, the people that pay for them.. They are most likely going to be the guys who suck or who are constantly struggling on standalone. Why? Because there is no easy way out, no easy endgame. Ever noticed these people who donate or hack always have AS50's? It's because its the easy way. AS50 is OP and the easiest gun to use in the whole game.

When they start playing standalone and realise the best weapon they will find for several hours is an axe, they will start crying. And they won't have anyone to help them, because as far as I am aware, there won't be the ability for admins to script in weapons, etc, etc.. Anymore.

I don't mind donating. But I don't anything back in return. What i would like is for the admins to continue building there server up, maybe buying better hardware, making more events, adding more things to the map. Thats what brings people back, is the experience.

And honestly, to be an admin, I think people should need to pass some form of IQ test. Maybe even provide some ID. Would stop the idiots from running servers all the time..

(Not actually serious about the ID thing....)

Edited May 25, 2013 by RJTurneR

[thelonelyone 103]

It's not free if you have to pay.

I said "Free" because you don't need to search for the stuff.

[bogroll 35]

Something, anything is exactly worth what you are prepared to pay for it. If some nodule wants to cough up 5 fat ones to get ridiculous starter gear, then in my opinion he/she is a fool, but they are entitled to be so. They paid for the privilege. Interesting fact: did you know that you can join games of DayZ for free?

Edited May 25, 2013 by SAL_iOGC

[FizzyT 30]

Some of the people who regularly play on our server keep asking us if we accept donations but we don't want any. We pay for the server out of our own pockets so people can if they want to have a place to play properly without the fear of admin abuse or pay to win style gameplay.

If anyone wants to play properly and isn't a hacker/scripter feel free to come join us on Hatchet Reloaded's server. Shameless plug but new faces are always welcome :thumbsup:

[OrLoK 16185]

Hello there

There's no issue with voluntary donations whatsoever.

But those who give gear for cash are creating a rod for their own back IMHO. I won't play on those servers. IMHO they are not "good" no matter the other circumstances.

I was on a server the other day with some lovely people but as it was modded the server had kit available everywhere which, for me, made the game rather pointless and more of a chatroom with guns.

Personally, I dont give a hoot how one runs their server, but there's few and far between I'll actually play on.

Adding more of something doesnt make it better.

Rgds

LoK

[RJTurneR 112]

Although I do agree with Orlok on people can pay for what they even if they are fools for doing it, it's the servers that do ask for donations in such a way that concerns me. I play on a server who accept donations and puts that towards making the server better, be it hardware, a better website or whatever, and they back that up with proof, winning people's trust. They recently put together a brand new dedicated server because of it, that gets rid of a lot of connection issues and makes the experience better.

Lets be honest, half of these servers that accept donations and give gear in return have no evidence they are putting that money to good use. Infact, it's the mainly the ones that do give out gear for donations. It ruins the reputation of a once difficult, exciting, and unique game, and labels it as a game were all you have to do is Pay2Win.

I've never had issues with how things are run on private hives. It's all about looking, picking, and trying. But I almost think there should be a regulation behind it. Some 'official' system. I'm not going to accuse anyone of anything, but some servers just have this 'reputation' and who knows were the donations are going..

[OrLoK 16185]

Hello there

Atm i dont think regulation is the way forward.

However, we do allow, and even promote, constructive criticism and debate about servers in their own threads, so if one has an issue bring it up so the SA can reply.

Rgds

LoK