Don't be afraid

[methr1k2dop3 323]

i really don't understand why people think sniping should be more difficult.

i understand that getting picked off from a 12 year old because of simple point and click sniping system can be frustrating but i think a good player should always take in consideration a well trained sniper could be lurking in every hill and should move in silence and strategy.

If you run around Cherno like a chicken with his head cut off you deserve to catch a piece of led in the noggin.

that being said

sniping should be fun and basic.

not complicated.

i personally don't find my self sniping in game.

if i pick one up i'll sit on a hill and scan areas before i head into town. (rarely)

so this is not coming from that asshole that sits on sniper hill picking off bambis heading into ele.

[thelonewarrior 886]

No it's an anti-game

It's supposed to be difficult

Sniping should not be easy, every aspect of the game should rely on your skills as a player and not dumbed down game mechanics that puts everyone on an equal footing

Well trained sniper..... The fact that everyone could be a well trained sniper is ridiculous, a few minutes in arma and you can be

In this game you work and search for your gear

It should be the same for snipers, put In the effort and get a reward and not get it for free (basically)

[methr1k2dop3 323]

No it's an anti-game

It's supposed to be difficult

Sniping should not be easy, every aspect of the game should rely on your skills as a player and not dumbed down game mechanics that puts everyone on an equal footing

Well trained sniper..... The fact that everyone could be a well trained sniper is ridiculous, a few minutes in arma and you can be

In this game you work and search for your gear

It should be the same for snipers, put In the effort and get a reward and not get it for free (basically)

valid argument.

but that just isn't fun.

sniping needs to have a part in the game and making it hard to do just would kill it. i love snipers.

when i play bf3 i single them out and flank them and there rendered useless to the might of my AK.

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[joe_mcentire 2074]

but i think a good player should always take in consideration a well trained sniper could be lurking in every hill and should move in silence and strategy.

i once thought it shall be a survival game. i wouldn't expect a well trained sniper lurking in every hill...

that said i understand why ppl want as many weapons as possible although i think it is far to "gamey" to have arsenals of weapons at one's disposal

Edited May 22, 2013 by joe_mcentire

[diddums 3760]

I shat myself when I saw the thread title.

[methr1k2dop3 323]

i once thought it shall be a survival game. i wouldn't expect a well trained sniper lurking in every hill...

that said i understand why ppl want as many weapons as possible although i think it is far to "gamey" to have arsenals of weapons at one's disposal

When you have to survive in a world with hostiles around it is pretty much a death sentence to run around, snipers or not.

If EZ mode sniping goes it will not fit with the rest of the gameplay.

They would also need to make shooting every weapon harder to compensate....

make one aspect harder need to up the others.

i don't want to see sniping dead it plays a viable part in dayz

Edited May 22, 2013 by methr1k2dop3

[victusmortuus 1074]

I personally don't know how to snipe very well. Obviously I can hit somebody who stands still like an idiot. Now hitting a moving target at 300+ is difficult for me as I haven't used the Shooting range as I expected I would.

What do people realistically want, wind? That type of system would be sussed out quickly.

[Ypsan 20]

Its really a matter of opinion. I dont like how easy it is to be sniper now because it requires little skill to master, and not because im afraid of being killed by one.

I welcome removal of 50 cals as well as I welcome keeping other sniper rifles in game and new wind mechanics which will affect bullet trajectory from other rifles aswell. It just makes things little harder and more rewarding to score a kill, which is more fun to me.

[Boshed 29]

They would also need to make shooting every weapon harder to compensate....

make one aspect harder need to up the others.

As I understand it all weapons will be effected by the upcoming changes, it's just that it will be more noticeable when using a sniper due the ranges involved.

[methr1k2dop3 323]

removing real things

is unrealistic.

dayz is a realistic game.

a video games needs to be easy to play.

[Boshed 29]

a video games needs to be easy to play.

Not this one! =D

[joe_mcentire 2074]

a video games needs to be easy to play.

stop right there! who said that?!

[fluxley 2228]

I want a game that challenges me, If the game challenges me i will enjoy the Challenge, Enjoyment = FUN.

[Whatsausername 119]

removing real things

is unrealistic.

dayz is a realistic game.

a video games needs to be easy to play.

It is easy to play, step 1: sit down at computer. step 2: run the game. step 3: play the game. you sir simply do not appreciate a challenge (or atleast it seems that way)

[methr1k2dop3 323]

i actually find it harder to hit targets in dayz than it would irl.

i'm a mid 20's American that just has basic knowledge about guns and shooting.

a video game needs to feel gamey.

i really don't feel like having to learn some complicated system on sniping because i rarely use rifles.

and when i do pick them up i want to be able to be mediocre at it.

Might as well make piloting a hele impossible too why we're at it.

i agree with taking out a weapon that is just stupidly OP and follows 0 physics and reality.

but killing sniping would just be depressing. :(

[fluxley 2228]

Might as well make piloting a hele impossible too why we're at it.

I really hope they do make flying heli's extremely difficult in the standalone now that you mention it.

[methr1k2dop3 323]

A good mix of simplicity and reality is needed.

Dayz IMO should be able to attract a casual gamer.

if it can't do that the money just isn't there and it could not flourish like it should.

[methr1k2dop3 323]

I really hope they do make flying heli's extremely difficult in the standalone now that you mention it.

no... just no.

People like you just want to make this game so incredibly complicated it would be a headache to pick up and learn.

[Whatsausername 119]

i actually find it harder to hit targets in dayz than it would irl.

i'm a mid 20's American that just has basic knowledge about guns and shooting.

a video game needs to feel gamey.

i really don't feel like having to learn some complicated system on sniping because i rarely use rifles.

and when i do pick them up i want to be able to be mediocre at it.

Might as well make piloting a hele impossible too why we're at it.

i agree with taking out a weapon that is just stupidly OP and follows 0 physics and reality.

but killing sniping would just be depressing. :(

they are not killing sniping, they are simply making it more realistic. This is a hardcore game ( or meant to be) its not supposed to be easy or simply its meant to be complicated and damn near impossible. Edit: its not meant for casual gamers, things like COD and Battlefield are for casual gamers.

Edited May 22, 2013 by Whatsausername

[Boshed 29]

I think the thing you need to take away from this is that it's not an arcade/FPS game it's an anti-game and is only going to get harder as it develops not easier, which is exactly what the core community want (from what I can gather).

I love sniping and look forward to the new challenges these upcoming changes are to bring.

[joe_mcentire 2074]

initially players would work together to overcome the harsh and unforgiving world. now this all had turned into KOS more or less. So that is why the core community wants it back as it was.

[methr1k2dop3 323]

were overall talking about sniping.

i'm all for a challenge.

so making that casual gamer sitting on the hill able to hit me makes it a challenge because i have to take it in mind sniping is a thriving thing.

making sniping hard anyone can run around cities with not a care in the world.

[Whatsausername 119]

making sniping hard anyone can run around cities with not a care in the world.

Right besides, you know: zombies, players, squads, and GOOD snipers. I actually just posted this for the people like you. (that sounds very hostile for some reason, not meant to be) http://dayzmod.com/f...m-m16-headshot/ Edited May 22, 2013 by Whatsausername

[fluxley 2228]

no... just no.

People like you just want to make this game so incredibly complicated it would be a headache to pick up and learn.

Yes, thats exactly it, I want game that is difficult to learn, whats so wrong with that?

With increased difficulty comes increased reward, theres more lows but the eventual high is so much greater than what your average game can offer.

Most companies are too scared too go this route because it does scare off a lot of players, but luckily it seems BiS and Rocket and willing to take that chance in order to create something special.

[methr1k2dop3 323]

Yes, thats exactly it, I want game that is difficult to learn, whats so wrong with that?

With increased difficulty comes increased reward, theres more lows but the eventual high is so much greater than what your average game can offer.

Most companies are too scared too go this route because it does scare off a lot of players, but luckily it seems BiS and Rocket and willing to take that chance in order to create something special.

making sniping hard is not making the game less "challenging"

actually makes it more challenging when you think about it.

people with basic knowledge of how sniper rifles work should be able to use them.

what more could you ask for?