More sandbox Pvp then survival?

[Evilsausage 87]

Kinda recently got back to DayZ after a few months away. Happy to see that there seems to be less hackers now.

There are three main issues that kinda ruins things for me now.

1. Now when i try to find servers theres just so many servers with like "Spawn with sniper, extra loot, military loot everywhere blabla".

It kinda takes the survival part away. Going from town to town with a new character trying to find a extra mag for the pistol, that to me was the fun part. Feeling that your working your towards something and know that alerting some zombies or a player could be really risky.

Also if you spawn with no gear it encourage you to team up with other survivors, if you spawn with a m16 cco people just tend to become alot more trigger happy.

2. Ohh and the Zombies now...What the hell. They could basically be removed and it would barely be noticable.

I mean you run for a few meters and then they just stop chasing you. I know it was insane before when they never gave up, but atleast that made em challanging. Now when they are so useless, getting weapons for dealing with zombies just feels less important.

Many times i don't even try to stealth around them. I just run right past them knowing i will shake them off after like 10-30 sec.

3. Anyone more then me that miss the night time on servers? Yes they are dark as fuck, but the most memerable things for me has been happening during the night. So much more atmosphere and tension at night. I bet even the current shitty zombie would be scary on a night time server.

Played maybe 20-30 servers and haven't been able to find a server with night on it. Seems like most players just became so competative and there for don't want night.

I really hope the standalone fix these things. I hope they make sure there are mores stuff to do, more advantages of teaming up and most importantly more dangerous threats in the wild.

[Lupatchi 143]

find better servers, maybe one with a teamspeak.

try your hardest at not bieng a bandit and maybe things will work in your favour.

[Mullraugh 1151]

Play on the Public servers

[elf cakes 559]

yeah, since the game got so much press all the cod kiddies flocked and now there's really no sense of comradery at all. its just banditry everywhere. i really hope that the standalone ends this crap because as fun as the PVP element is, i am so fucking bored of having to shoot people on sight just because i KNOW that they will do the same to me.

[applejaxc 2500]

First of all, *than.

Second, avoid clan servers.

Third, PVP is part of survival. >.>

[ZlobaRUS54 441]

What we are seeing is the result of private hives competing for masses of 12 year olds who have no appetite for deep emergent gameplay original DayZ mod brought. DayZ as designed by Rocket was an incredibly immersible role playing game hiding behind a military simulator sandbox and now it is played as CoD on a huge map.

[Saethkept 134]

I agree with you OP. Testing some ideas on my server ... seems that is all I do ... to make DayZ more challenging. I really do wish I could go back to my very first log in to a DayZ server and well, log in for the first time ... again. My first experience with a supposed massively online zombie game was WarZ and I argued for months on their forums for some of the issues you raise to be resolved or addressed. Of course, that game was headed for nihility from day one - in my opinion. Luckily, I heard of DayZ, purchased Arma2 and here I am, much happier than in years with a PC game.

Pvp will always be a factor in DayZ I am certain, and I do enjoy the tension the presence of other players inspires in me. Hopefully however, zombies will get their day in either DayZ or another game, and become the greatest source of fear in that game world. I also agree that scavenging, scraping by and just making it is great fun.

[Rebel1705 31]

Try our server (if you are looking for one) "BeDayZ" you do not spawn with any weapons at all and we are still looking for players to join! ^^

There is quiet a variety between hero's, survivors and bandits, so there isnt always PvP.

Also our server is atm only daytime, but we are going to change it to GMT+1 or GMT-1 we dont know yet, but that is until we finally figure out how to set up the full moon script so you can acctually see something at night :)

You can always go on this website for more info: http://www.bedayz.be

[Ken Bean 175]

3. Anyone more then me that miss the night time on servers? Yes they are dark as fuck, but the most memerable things for me has been happening during the night. So much more atmosphere and tension at night. I bet even the current shitty zombie would be scary on a night time server.

Played maybe 20-30 servers and haven't been able to find a server with night on it. Seems like most players just became so competative and there for don't want night.

I really hope the standalone fix these things. I hope they make sure there are mores stuff to do, more advantages of teaming up and most importantly more dangerous threats in the wild.

Yep, night is fun. I love to play with flares and chemlights. Those bright nights destroy the nighttime and flares, chem lights, flash lights and NVGs get rather useless.

Edited May 1, 2013 by Ken Bean

[simfreek@hotmail.com 48]

Lately the community has been more CoD orientated. I am now seeing posts where CoD Kiddies bash the DayZ players for wanting more survival/realisim in the game.

I would get an adreniline rush when it was a new moon, I couldn't see shit, and I spent the first hour of the night looking for a building that even had a chem light in it to use. Then when found some, I would be hopeing it was a red one. Then popping that sucker off and getting another adreniline rush going. "I hope some mother fucker isn't across the street and decides to use the red glowing thing as target practice. That or thinking I just turned on a homing device for every one with NVGs in the area.

[tajjuk 65]

FInd the public servers, I just used Dayz commander set it to "official" and searched from there. It also gives you some flexibility to move about between servers if you enocunter hackers because your gear applies accross all of them basic vanilla DayZ has a lot less vehicles and thigns are much scarcer than most private hives. You also only start with a bandage, drink, can and painkillers.

As for the zombies I think their damage is being upgraded in the next patch. i don't know how they were before but I still try to avoid them, they aren't scary but they are still a threat mainly to their glitchyness, their hits/damage seem variable, they zigzag and teleport, they get you through walls and whether they aggro you also seems random, some you can literally walk past some yet others will run accross the field to you.

[rossums 2190]

As more of the kiddies and deathmatch CoD players join, the more they whine, the more they get their way.

Hopefully Rocket at least sticks with his guns instead of dumbing everything down 'for the community'.

[Bansidhe 16]

I have recently started playing DayZ 2017 and, for the most part, I find it to be far more in keeping with the whole bare-bones, survival side of the game than the rampant, deathmatch PVP etc. For example, not only is it difficult to find a weapon, when you do the chances are it will have, at most, one bullet with it. Maybe give it a try, it may be what you are looking for.

[audax 207]

1. Now when i try to find servers theres just so many servers with like "Spawn with sniper, extra loot, military loot everywhere blabla".

It kinda takes the survival part away. Going from town to town with a new character trying to find a extra mag for the pistol, that to me was the fun part. Feeling that your working your towards something and know that alerting some zombies or a player could be really risky.

Also if you spawn with no gear it encourage you to team up with other survivors, if you spawn with a m16 cco people just tend to become alot more trigger happy.

I call them: "yolo server" or "arma 2 guerrilla with zombies and food"

I join them often if im bored, for me its a good thing to have some of these servers to have some easy fun and kills

2. Ohh and the Zombies now...What the hell. They could basically be removed and it would barely be noticable.

I mean you run for a few meters and then they just stop chasing you. I know it was insane before when they never gave up, but atleast that made em challanging. Now when they are so useless, getting weapons for dealing with zombies just feels less important.

Many times i don't even try to stealth around them. I just run right past them knowing i will shake them off after like 10-30 sec.

Really? Every time im being chased by zombies its a tragedy. Can i have your zombies? XD

3. Anyone more then me that miss the night time on servers? Yes they are dark as fuck, but the most memerable things for me has been happening during the night. So much more atmosphere and tension at night. I bet even the current shitty zombie would be scary on a night time server.

Played maybe 20-30 servers and haven't been able to find a server with night on it. Seems like most players just became so competative and there for don't want night.

Thats right, they should accelerate the day/night cicle.

[Cadan. 16]

DayzRP.

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Played maybe 20-30 servers and haven't been able to find a server with night on it.

5.63.144.180:3136 day/night 10-50 Players online always. Nice admins, nice ping, one of the best in my favorites.

[toxicsludge 406]

Yep, I'm going to say it...

Balota Buddies.

[taco241 393]

I highly suggest you try DayZ origins.

Customizable vehicles, building houses (if you're willing to do a lot of work/scavenging), NPC island if you want to test your skills against elite guards.

Leveling as a hero or bandit, etc, etc,.

[entspeak 374]

Except for the things the devs can't control in terms of admin customization, 1.7.7 is much more survival based with the current build - guns are very rare and often spawn with no ammo. Even the heli crashes are not the smorgasbord they once were. I hope every admin resets the database when 1.7.7 is released - not going to happen, but it would be awesome if it did. And admins are going to have to pay close attention to their anti-hack measures... nothing brings out the skiddies like a game where it's hard to load up.

The zombies are still a bit easy, in my opinion, but there are now some points where you are going to have to deal with them because they spawn in the buildings and stay there. Freaky as hell to turn a corner and bump into a waiting zed blocking my way.

I also love nighttime play and wish there was a way to force gamma/brightness. I admit to using the exploit, but only on higher pop servers because I know they are likely doing it and there's no point to playing in the dark when everybody else is exploiting to see. The game is so much better in the dark in terms of intensity.

[bfisher 561]

*Sigh*

Everyone has their own version of what DayZ "should" be. Some people want to go around PvPing everyone they see. Others want a big Boy Scout camping simulator with zombies. I think there should be abandoned vehicles everywhere, but purists disagree with me.

Zombies are going to be polished up in the standalone. The whole problem in the mod is that they are based off of ArmA II soldiers. In the SA they will be controlled globally by the server instead of just spawning as player early warning systems in towns. Their pathfinding is going to be fixed. They will run indoors. I assume all the other bugs will be worked out as well.

With more buildings and more loot spawns, I assume the SA will be more than just a race to NWAF for carbines and STANAG mags. But it's a zombie apocalypse. Expect people to shoot at you.

[SilverBulleT (DayZ) 3]

I get a kick out of all the CoD bashing.

You can't even compare the two. Your average CoD player's brain will fall asleep after 5 minutes of running through a forest. The CoD players that adapt to DayZ and stick around will have their own perspective of what the game should be. (just like the rest of us)

Play on official hive servers (use DayZ commander) if you want the true DayZ experience.

I don't think the amount of PvP has anything to do with a "CoD player invasion". Survival becomes pretty simple after you've figured it out. Zombies aren't much of a challenge -- run to the next building and pick them off with your sidearm while they struggle to find the doorway, or get through it... (that is if they haven't stopped chasing you already). With survival being such a breeze people turn to PvP for something to do - and I can't blame them.

The only thing I can see CoD players contributing to is the number of un-official / private hive / insane starting gear / always daylight type servers, however, purists will 99.9% of the time avoid those servers. All it's doing is artifically inflating the number of players. There may be 1.4 million players/characters as per the DayZ site, but maybe only 500k are playing it the way it was intended. If people want to have a server with custom weapons / loadouts, and 500 vehicle I don't really care -- it isn't affecting my gameplay.

Personally, I've never played CoD, but I enjoy PvP in DayZ. Why? For the reasons I mentioned above. I like DayZ, but the survival aspects have become mundane.

The only thing I would like to see is maybe 12 hour or 6 hour day cycles instead of 24. If im working afternoons, it basically means playing in nighttime 100% of the time during the week, or finding a server in another timezone if I want daylight. A 3 hour day / 3 hour night cycle would help that (or 6 hours day / 6 hours night). You already need to eat/drink practically hourly to survive - if we want a truly realistic experience either match the amount of food/water required for a true 24 hour day cycle, or modify the day cycles to 6-12 hours and then the amount of food/water we are currently using would be a little more realistic.

Edited May 1, 2013 by SilverBulleT

[entspeak 374]

I get a kick out of all the CoD bashing.

You can't even compare the two. Your average CoD player's brain will fall asleep after 5 minutes of running through a forest. The CoD players that adapt to DayZ and stick around will have their own perspective of what the game should be. (just like the rest of us)

Play on official hive servers (use DayZ commander) if you want the true DayZ experience.

I don't think the amount of PvP has anything to do with a "CoD player invasion". Survival becomes pretty simple after you've figured it out. Zombies aren't much of a challenge -- run to the next building and pick them off with your sidearm while they struggle to find the doorway, or get through it... (that is if they haven't stopped chasing you already). With survival being such a breeze people turn to PvP for something to do - and I can't blame them.

The only thing I can see CoD players contributing to is the number of un-official / private hive / insane starting gear / always daylight type servers, however, purists will 99.9% of the time avoid those servers. All it's doing is artifically inflating the number of players. There may be 1.4 million players/characters as per the DayZ site, but maybe only 500k are playing it the way it was intended. If people want to have a server with custom weapons / loadouts, and 500 vehicle I don't really care -- it isn't affecting my gameplay.

Personally, I've never played CoD, but I enjoy PvP in DayZ. Why? For the reasons I mentioned above. I like DayZ, but the survival aspects have become mundane.

The only thing I would like to see is maybe 12 hour or 6 hour day cycles instead of 24. If im working afternoons, it basically means playing in nighttime 100% of the time during the week, or finding a server in another timezone if I want daylight. A 3 hour day / 3 hour night cycle would help that (or 6 hours day / 6 hours night). You already need to eat/drink practically hourly to survive - if we want a truly realistic experience either match the amount of food/water required for a true 24 hour day cycle, or modify the day cycles to 6-12 hours and then the amount of food/water we are currently using would be a little more realistic.

The figure on the DayZ site is the number for public servers. I don't believe the site tracks private server player counts.

And, after playing this morning with a rifle in my primary that I wanted and couldn't put in my pack, I can tell you the zeds are, thankfully, going back to being an issue in 1.7.7. They are more persistent, it's almost as if they can smell you the way they start slowly heading your direction, they hit harder and firing a weapon will draw them to you quick. If you don't have a silenced weapon, expect to have trouble looting. This combined with the adjusted loot tables means survival will be difficult. If you're playing in daylight, you will be seen and the zombie calling seems to be working better. It's possible to be stealthy, but very difficult during the day. There are some issues with sensing, but I prefer they err on the side of zombies seeing you than not.

Like I said, I hope that admins will reset their databases with this one. It's a good one to start fresh with.

[iPewPewU 5]

Play origins or breaking point if you want stronger zombie, or a cherna map with stronger zombies, less loots and AIs.

[entspeak 374]

Regarding nights... from the 1.7.7 Changelog:

* [NEW] - Servers date has been locked to give full moon nights.

[Sula 1205]

Yes, game has definitely become more PvP, which not good for us survivalists.

Re nights - the thing is, NVGs are so rare that only bandits and hackers ever manage to get them - so that makes night unpopular with those of us who don't fit into one of those two categories. That's why there are so many day-only servers.