Long time fan and player, faith in SA and Rocket is gone.

[big_t 66]

I think a lot of the issue is the accessibility of game dev info. It's nice to get he updates but I would rather just be in the dark and dismiss the delays to "well it takes time, I'm sure they are working hard on it" rather than,,,"the lead dev is taking a 2 month break to climb mount everest (face palm)"

Edited April 23, 2013 by Big_T

[ZlobaRUS54 441]

Very eloquently put, sir, although the second part dealing with oh so well known mod quirks is redundant. BiS/Rocket's team did screw up from purely software development process perspective. Bohemia's biggest mistake was putting such an inexperienced person as the PM. Rocket obviously has vision but not the personality for this job, he seems to be always be on some sort of up an down emotional roller-coaster, has horrible communications skills, does not work well under pressure and believes that running away from the problem can be a valid strategy.

Edited April 23, 2013 by ZlobaRUS54

[Dr. Goner 661]

...there are plenty of whitelisted servers that are always populated, at plenty of different times. Obviously you haven't looked well enough.

Typical arrogant response from inception. If you're going to blow your moderator load prematurely at least put some thought into this guys complaint. It's just rude man. No wonder scores of people are leaving these forums.

[Dr. Goner 661]

You'll certainly be missed, most of all by the EFFING TINMAN!!!111

Dallas, do you work for BIS? Because you offend more of their customers than any one person on these forums.

[ponc 100]

dear mods,

am i allowed to say that i want to punch people like op?

like, in a virtual, forum-kinda-way.

my problem with op:

Having ZERO knowledge about why things really have been like they have been, having ZERO knowledge about anything regarding the developement process, yet have the disgussting attitude to come here and act like that.

THESE THREADS ARE ANNOYING AND ANGERING.

that's what i have to say to this topic.

[bfisher 561]

Here's the way I see it. Rocket made this awesome game out of a mod of ArmA II. It's buggy and imperfect, but it demonstrated the possibilities, and just as importantly, the market potential of a massive open-world sandbox game with no rules or story other what comes out of your interaction with the enviroment and other players. The Standalone is meant to be a more polished, more stable version with more content. That means a lot of new development. And as far as I can tell, Rocket is a relatively inexperienced program manager.

My concern isn't that it's late. I'm concerned it might linger in a never ending development limbo like Duke Nukem Forever. Or it does get released and they changed the gameplay in some fundamental way in an attempt to please all fans that makes it suck for everyone.

[ZlobaRUS54 441]

dear mods,

am i allowed to say that i want to punch people like op?

like, in a virtual, forum-kinda-way.

my problem with op:

Having ZERO knowledge about why things really have been like they have been, having ZERO knowledge about anything regarding the developement process, yet have the disgussting attitude to come here and act like that.

THESE THREADS ARE ANNOYING AND ANGERING.

that's what i have to say to this topic.

SA is not developed with unicorns and pixie dust you know, it's still the same set milestone deadline, commit-build-test process. DayZ mod worked under Rocket as long as it was on the release early, release often track, which meant something was broken in every update but people in general were happy. Unfortunately despite early promises of Minecraft model, SA development de-facto went the traditional route under Rocket as PM and that is when things started falling apart, as Rocket fell into every trap setup for an newbie project manager.

[Rage VG 4033]

I think a lot of the issue is the accessibility of game dev info. It's nice to get he updates but I would rather just be in the dark and dismiss the delays to "well it takes time, I'm sure they are working hard on it" rather than,,,"the lead dev is taking a 2 month break to climb mount everest (face palm)"

Well no, because if there's no explanation, there's no reason to believe them. The secrecy in itself is enough to spark suspicion, so if they're actually working on the game, there's no reason to be secretive about it.

SA is not developed with unicorns and pixie dust you know, it's still the same set milestone deadline, commit-build-test process. DayZ mod worked under Rocket as long as it was on the release early, release often track, which meant something was broken in every update but people in general were happy. Unfortunately despite early promises of Minecraft model, SA development de-facto went the traditional route under Rocket as PM and that is when things started falling apart, as Rocket fell into every trap setup for an newbie project manager.

Because it's literally impossible for the reason he gave himself (That being he is intentionally taking his time to make sure things are how he wants them) to be true, right?

Look, there's literally no reason to doubt them, as there's no reason for them to deceive us, nor is there any benefit to doing so.

They are not holding anything of ours in in their possession until release. We haven't paid them for this work yet. The attitude that EVERYONE has taken is that if you can't be bothered waiting, then don't wait, Just don't keep flooding the place with "OMG I AM IMPATIENT" threads. There is also no logical advantage to making people wait for the game. The amount of people who are anticipated for the game aren't going to increase to make up for the people who are sick of waiting. So logically, there must be some other reason why they are taking so long. And wouldn't you know, the reason Rocket provided is logically sound and completely understandable. It goes against logic to think that they're up to something.

Edited April 23, 2013 by Rage VG

[Inception. 9443]

Typical arrogant response from inception. If you're going to blow your moderator load prematurely at least put some thought into this guys complaint. It's just rude man. No wonder scores of people are leaving these forums.

Could you please enlighten me upon how it was rude or arrogant? It has nothing to do with my sense of important.

I am responding as a player who has experienced and found many populated, whitelisted servers. Being a moderator is irrelevant.

[Rage VG 4033]

Typical arrogant response from inception. If you're going to blow your moderator load prematurely at least put some thought into this guys complaint. It's just rude man. No wonder scores of people are leaving these forums.

Wow, and I thought the OP's post was stupid, but this just takes the cake.

Explain how his role as a forum moderator would affect his ability to find servers?

God, I refuse to dissect this garbage of a post further, lest I lose some IQ points...

In fact, I'll let the song explain it:

Edited April 23, 2013 by Rage VG

[Guest]

it's ok man. I understand your loss.

*hands gun*

Now kill yourself ;)

[Rage VG 4033]

it's ok man. I understand your loss.

*hands gun*

Now kill yourself ;)

Even out of the context of this thread, I love that blunt humor.

[Inception. 9443]

Well since OP has decided he will not reply...what do we do now?

[ponc 100]

Let's have a look on the SA improvments and features that have been confirmed and shown so far :

Engine:

New Server/Client structure (has been explained to death and is still being worked on)

Map :

All buildings enterable (providing detailed and immersive interiors)

7 cities revamped so far (ongoing)

new areas like the new Cherno suburbs , swamps, new large military facilty ( thats the new areas we have seen so far, I am sure there will be a few more)

airfilelds and military camps redone and added (Balota and NW Airfiled shown so far)

Utes has been added to the map

better textures for the landscape , trees, grass, roads and buildings etc

a lot of eyecandy like wrecked cars crashed airplanes and stuff has been added

new structures (prison has been confirmed)

a new satelite map ( far distance view is a lot better)

improved rendering ( far distance view is a lot better)

ToH improved weather sytem including volumetric clouds

Completely new inventory, clothing and item system (has been explained to death)

Completely new loot spawn system (blablabla)

Crafting

new UI

new character models

new zombie skins ( one female has been shown so far)

a completely new skeleton (allowing melee combat for example )

improved 1. person view

completely new mocaped animations ( player and infected)

new anims (jump for example) and idle anims

improved Zombie pathfinding and AI

all weapons will be remade from the scratch ( AK, M4 and Mauser Riffle confirmed so far)

new crossbow model

overhauled ingame chat functions including radios

readable books, notes and journals as well as usable pen and paper

tons of new items ( like gasmaks, desinfection sprays, can opener etc etc etc)

that's only the stuff we have seen ( no secrets) and has been made in 7 months by a small team

What The Fuck is wrong with you ????

this post should be stickied.

[Mr Nasty 1023]

Well since OP has decided he will not reply...what do we do now?

bake cookies. <3

[RJTurneR 112]

I rarely ever post here now purely because the amount of posts like this. There are negatives than postives on this forum, some I can understand, but it's a shame it's a more split community now than anything.

For a start, anyone who rips into Rocket for his so called 'Holiday', needs to realise he is just as human as any of us. Going to Everest is not something that you just decide a week before. It takes months of planning, and a lot of money. As I've heard, apparently you have to sign yourself up to a list, and sometimes these people don't even get to make it. Taking that into consideration, pretty sure this was planned before a standalone game even seemed like a realistic idea.

Secondly, anyone coming here complaining about the same thing, is wasting their time. So many posts that pretty much say the same thing. And to be honest? No one really cares if you have given up. They are still many of us that enjoy the mod and play it on a regular basis, and are more than content with the standalone taking as much times as it needs to be great (Hopefully..).

Thirdly, anyone who continues to point to issues with the mod, is again wasting their time. The community has done a great job fixing flaws and other issues, but things like hackers are near to impossible to make them go away. At the end of the day, it's a mod, and for that reason, it will always be flawed.

I can understand peoples anger, but at the same time, it's a game.. Theres a world out there, and Rocket is enjoying 'reality' right now.

[Dr. Goner 661]

@Inception

I didn't mean to come off as rude. I just think it's off putting. Why not just paste a couple good servers in for the OP and leave it at that. "You're not looking hard enough" seems trite at this point. Then again, most of the responses to criticism of DayZ in these forums are trite.

It seems that we're offending a lot of players by not taking there complaints seriously. People may continue to play the game but abandon the forum. Anyway, I guess it's just something we should all come to expect due to the anonymity that the internet provides. It's base human instinct to lash out at others, especially when you don't have to look them in the eye.

[Dr. Goner 661]

Wow, and I thought the OP's post was stupid

That isn't what I was saying. I was commenting on "some" of the moderators willingness to immediately treat people like they're idiots. A lot of forum members are just rude, like you for instance. I won't call you dumb, but I will call you rude.

[mzltv 2281]

Bit late to this party, but a perfect opportunity for my favourite video on the internet to debut...

Contrary to the video, I did read into your post a little bit, and only have this to say:-

If you're a long time fan and player of DayZ, and you've got a mental age above 14, then you'll understand all the reasons why there is no Standalone at the moment.

[ZlobaRUS54 441]

I rarely ever post here now purely because the amount of posts like this. There are negatives than postives on this forum, some I can understand, but it's a shame it's a more split community now than anything.

For a start, anyone who rips into Rocket for his so called 'Holiday', needs to realise he is just as human as any of us. Going to Everest is not something that you just decide a week before. It takes months of planning, and a lot of money. As I've heard, apparently you have to sign yourself up to a list, and sometimes these people don't even get to make it. Taking that into consideration, pretty sure this was planned before a standalone game even seemed like a realistic idea.

Secondly, anyone coming here complaining about the same thing, is wasting their time. So many posts that pretty much say the same thing. And to be honest? No one really cares if you have given up. They are still many of us that enjoy the mod and play it on a regular basis, and are more than content with the standalone taking as much times as it needs to be great (Hopefully..).

Thirdly, anyone who continues to point to issues with the mod, is again wasting their time. The community has done a great job fixing flaws and other issues, but things like hackers are near to impossible to make them go away. At the end of the day, it's a mod, and for that reason, it will always be flawed.

I can understand peoples anger, but at the same time, it's a game.. Theres a world out there, and Rocket is enjoying 'reality' right now.

Ok, I get it, accept that life sucks, accept it and do not complain. Is this some kind of weird Christian philosophy?

[DayZeeSurvivor 22]

Itsjustadeer... dude, maybe one should wait to trash-talk a game designer until after the game is released. It's pretty obvious DayZ turned into something bigger than originally intended.

So many games are released as half-finished shit that, I for one, am thankful that they at least seem to make an effort.

If it turns out crap in the end I’ll give you my beans if you post

[spankerfist 44]

Slanderous? How so? Because I'm calling it how I see it?

I wasn't expecting a thing. I wanted people to read my concerns, sure, but I wanted those people to be the devs. They need to know people feel like this. Rocket needs to know. It's quite obvious half of the people responding with negative feedback didn't actually read my post. That's perfectly fine by me, I just don't expect a response to this post unless the person actually read it. Otherwise, that's called trolling.

And to those of you who obviously misinterpreted what I said about the two devs getting imprisoned... I didn't say 'replace them and fire them'. I simply meant to replace them for the time being and swallow what was handed to you. Get your shit together and develop a game that you promised a long time ago. It's really not that complicated.

As I said, I'll agree to disagree. No, the photo and video evidence don't support the text-based rundowns. Barely anything I've seem amounts to the progress Rocket claimed they made even 4 months back from now. I'm sorry that you don't see this. I'm sorry that you're butthurt about my critique and you feel the need to insult me. My brain works fine, thank you.

They never promised to release it last year. Also do you really want rocket to release a really buggy version that might end up like warz or give them the time to make something proper. Its seems like you have no idea how hard it is to make a game. I dont see how anything rocket wrote is "deciving". Rocket is making this game as he wants it remember that.

[Rage VG 4033]

That isn't what I was saying. I was commenting on "some" of the moderators willingness to immediately treat people like they're idiots. A lot of forum members are just rude, like you for instance. I won't call you dumb, but I will call you rude.

That's rubbish. The fact they are mods has no relevance to the thread at hand, nor their opinions. So your comment was uncalled for. Also, I'm not sure where you got the idea that I cared for your opinion of me. That isn't relevant to the thread either, so I don't quite know why you're telling me.

Edited April 24, 2013 by Rage VG

[Dr. Goner 661]

That's rubbish. The fact they are mods has no relevance to the thread at hand, nor their opinions. So your comment was uncalled for. Also, I'm not sure where you got the idea that I cared for your opinion of me. That isn't relevant to the thread either, so I don't quite know why you're telling me.

The feeling is mutual. Please feel free to ignore my future posts. Where I come from, calling someone "dumb" is fighting words.

[Rage VG 4033]

The feeling is mutual. Please feel free to ignore my future posts. Where I come from, calling someone "dumb" is fighting words.

I've been hearing that a lot recently, surprisingly.