Please read rocket, food and water

[Remy (DayZ) 0]

Of all the items there are to loot in this game, cans of food and soda are still the hardest for me to locate. Food especially.

[generationvii 6]

Not a bad idea, I was actually enjoying myself a couple of patches ago when food/water spawns were f'd up. Was really happy to run into a cow lol.

[bas_tera@hotmail.com 3]

Tldr; less cans of food and water' date=' more emphesis on wells, lakes and animals.

Survival is all about finding food and water.

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They'd definitely have to increase the spawn rate of at least matches and possibly hunting knives if animals are going to be the chief source of food. Think about it.. you need to find:

1. An animal

2. A gun to kill it

3. A knife to gut it

4. A wood pile or hatchet

5. Matches to light a fire

That's a lot of searching around, a lot of zombies, possibly a lot of lost blood and definitely starving before you've done it all. Beans are necessary.

Well i'm not saying that beans should go alltogether, just decrease the spawn probability. Rocket already stated that there will be more animals, so we wont have to search endlessly.

[Keunus 0]

Agreed. Searching for food is the number one thing people need to do when surviving.

[Duckman404 37]

An increase in the spawn rate of knives and matches would be just fine, if it meant making food a priority.

I personally had more fun than I have had in a while thanks to the 1.7.1.1 patch, where things like food and water only spawned on zeds (which meant I had to actually shoot them without provocation!).

It made hunting and searching for water sources all that more important, and quite fun, since it means having to go into towns to stock up on food is less of a concern, and the rate at which animals spawn and the amount of meat they give is just perfect for a hunter to survive.

There's also the fact that soft drink is kinda good at dehydrating you; along with reducing the amount of food and water, I wouldn't mind seeing soft drinks give much less hydration when you drink them.

[zorg_dk 30]

I agree it would be good with less food and water. Yesterday I played with a group of 5, and we were on a constant struggle for supplies up north. E.g. we had to share the same canteen, and take turns drinking at a waterhane. It was actually a lot of fun. So, less food and water = more exciting survival feel.

[bas_tera@hotmail.com 3]

I'm really happy to see that so many agree with me! Now to make sure rocket sees it:)

[Nalamin 0]

DayZ is supposed to be a post apocalyptic world where 99% of people have died. Frankly, there would be canned goods everywhere. Matches and knives would be common items as well. Hatchets less so but still common in rural areas. Even shotguns should be fairly easy to find. Pistols less so.

Combat weapons extremely rare (of course, on an ARMA map military bases etc are more common than in real life)

The things that should be extremely difficult to find would be DMR's and night vision goggles. Anything that required batteries would be difficult(watches, flashlights, etc). When is the last time you saw a wind up watch in real life. These things need to be thought out more carefully.

As to water and water bottles...containers should be pretty common. But, would you want to drink the water out of your local pond near your home? If you did would you get sick? The world just had millions die! Must it be boiled to be safe? Think about that before you pop the top on a soda in game...it would probably be safer in actual fact.

Another thing to consider...shouldn't food that has been cooked give a person better health points? Hot food has been a major item for humans for 10's of thousands of years. But fires are dangerous of course. Perhaps have someone who has eaten a good hot meal reup health points over time for some period. What about spoilage; especially of fresh or cooked meats?

These items should be fairly plentiful but required to sustain life. I feel they pretty much were already. Just getting your health up 1000 pts is five cans of food. Acquiring food should be an in game nuisance...not the end all of raiding.

[Winterborn 27]

And while we're at it, there should be more animals near lakes. That's where I would go to hunt, not necessarly for water. But because of the fact that there might be prey there that also needs to drink once in a while. Oh thats right there's so many soda in the game that even the animals say "Who needs drinking water when I have my cola"

[bas_tera@hotmail.com 3]

And while we're at it' date=' there should be more animals near lakes. That's where I would go to hunt, not necessarly for water. But because of the fact that there might be prey there that also needs to drink once in a while. Oh thats right there's so many soda in the game that even the animals say "Who needs drinking water when I have my cola"

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Thats actually a very good point! Animals dont just Stand around, they need to live as well, and to live,they need food and water.

[RedNoak 13]

yeah the "bug" in 1.7.1.1 was great

maybe a bit too rare... but cans should really spawn less.

and also canteens, make em RARE as they are effectivly an infinitive ressource of water

[Winterborn 27]

And while we're at it' date=' there should be more animals near lakes. That's where I would go to hunt, not necessarly for water. But because of the fact that there might be prey there that also needs to drink once in a while. Oh thats right there's so many soda in the game that even the animals say "Who needs drinking water when I have my cola"

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Thats actually a very good point! Animals dont just Stand around, they need to live as well, and to live,they need food and water.

Well thank you Krabbit, I've found it very frustrating to never see any wildlife nearby lakes myself :p

[nacrom 82]

Disagree.

Maybe if you could drink directly from fresh water sources I'd change my mind.

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And the argument that using blood packs forces team play works both ways. Yesterday two guys lured me to them with mics offering to give me a transfusion then shot me in the head. I was doing really well too. Even with the patch.

[Exectah 0]

I'm up for this idea. I like the idea of making hunting more important. So far I have only hunted once and I found it really neat and cool, just sitting by the fire and cooking meat. :P

Food and drinks definitely could spawn more rarely. Not too rarely but just enough... Since you could drink from lakes, sinks and such, you could at least make drinks more rare.

[bagmanpt 0]

I really support this idea!

[kwhy (DayZ) 6]

I'd like to see this expanded on by not just taking away supplies but at the same time making more ways for the player to possibly obtain them...

Something along the lines like this...

http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=15375

The beauty is that a mess of things that could be incorporated that the casual gamer could just skip if he/she just wants to play duck duck goose with zombies.

[KVCC 1]

No,

You already have to drink and eat every 2 hours, which is HIGHLY unrealistic. The spawns are perfect they way they are.

As it is right now, you could be starving and have to go to 2-3 towns to get enough food/water to last. PLEASE don't make it any harder, that's completely unnecessary and too difficult. The only people that want this are ones that already have tons of food/water, well GOOD you should be pretty well off when you find stuff. I don't want to constantly be looking for food, it takes away from the FUN of this game.

[bas_tera@hotmail.com 3]

No' date='

You already have to drink and eat every 2 hours, which is HIGHLY unrealistic. The spawns are perfect they way they are.

As it is right now, you could be starving and have to go to 2-3 towns to get enough food/water to last. PLEASE don't make it any harder, that's completely unnecessary and too difficult. The only people that want this are ones that already have tons of food/water, well GOOD you should be pretty well off when you find stuff. I don't want to constantly be looking for food, it takes away from the FUN of this game.

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This is a realistis zombie survival game, and with survival comes the need for and lack of food. In real Life when people need to survive, they'll eat bugs, even bark from a tree counts as food. Now i'm not suggesting we need to Find insects and eat bark, but with the way food is now, it's not enough of a concern.

And yes, maybe the hunger and thirst should happen more slowly, but food should most certainly spawn less.

[deepfried 95]

There have been some valid counter points brought up:

1) Drinking directly from water sources: agreed, this should be possible from any view point on the game, it simply doesnt make sense that you can die of thirst next to a water pump simply because you dont have a canteen.

2) You have to eat and drink more often than is realistically necessary: Maybe. Think about it, you need 2000 calories and 8 glasses of water a day in ordinary conditions.. A single can of beans is 328 calories, so to meet a normal energy requirement you would need to eat 6 cans of beans a day. now consider that we're sprinting dozens of km every day you can reasonably increase the calorie requirement substantially. Still this would need to be tweaked a bit.

[bas_tera@hotmail.com 3]

There have been some valid counter points brought up:

1) Drinking directly from water sources: agreed' date=' this should be possible from any view point on the game, it simply doesnt make sense that you can die of thirst next to a water pump simply because you dont have a canteen.

2) You have to eat and drink more often than is realistically necessary: Maybe. Think about it, you need 2000 calories and 8 glasses of water a day in ordinary conditions.. A single can of beans is 328 calories, so to meet a normal energy requirement you would need to eat 6 cans of beans a day. now consider that we're sprinting dozens of km every day you can reasonably increase the calorie requirement substantially. Still this would need to be tweaked a bit.

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Indeed, and things like drinking from wells and ponds will surely be added:)

[Beebs (DayZ) 0]

leave the spawn rates as they, change how much hunger and thirst are replenished from food and drink sources. Say cooked meat acts as it does now, will fill your hunger meter even if you are dying of starvation. same with water. soda or beans will only get you 1/2 or 1/3 of a hunger meter, so you would need 3 cans of beans to equal 1 cooked meat or 3 cans of soda to equal 1 canteen of water.

[ghost_kage 5]

Not a bad idea, but if you think about it it's a zombie apocalypse, and we don't know when it took place or how fast it spread. Are we surviving after it hit 10 years ago? Or did it just recently happen? These are important factors to consider when determining whether or not to lower the spawn rate of food. If you've ever read The Walking Dead comics, in the beginning food and water really isn't an issue. Yes, it's something that they have to keep in mind, and make sure they are prepared, but it wasn't the hardest thing to deal with. However, in more recent comics, food is becoming a real issue, and they have to travel farther out, and then rejoice if they just find a stale bag of potato chips.

Personally there are tons of things to worry about in DayZ, and I think food is pretty balanced in its current state. Maybe on Veteran servers... then you can be more IMMERSED!! =P

[dut 21]

Agree completely.

Posted something similar a long time ago, linked in my sig.

[bas_tera@hotmail.com 3]

Quick bump :)

[Shorttallguy 3]

I definitely think canned food should be more sporadic if not less abundant along with all other resources. For example you should only be able to find canned food in houses or stores.