People shooting freshspawns

[bloodtrozorx 145]

You can't call someone a dick because of the their actions in a video game.

I'm pretty sure you can actually. Being a dick is subjective but that doesn't make the opinion any less valid.

[Saethkept 134]

As for KoS - especially that of newly spawned players - the adjective craven comes to mind as an apt descriptor of the perpetrator; the noun as well for after the fact. KoS during sudden, explosive, "unscripted" encounters makes sense in the face of the lightning fast fluidity of some DayZ encounters. Posting oneself near a spawn in point with the intent to kill the next arrival is cowardice. If you do that, well, you're more suited to WarZ ... yuck.

Edited April 19, 2013 by Saethkept

[irl-calibre 744]

Followed a guy with an ak who was chasing a fresh spawn into elektro church and shooting at him (and missing lol), ran up and buried him in the head with a hatchet, the abuse this intended victim gave him was hilarious! good times!!

[Fraggle (DayZ) 15720]

.You can't call someone a dick because of the their actions in a video game.

Sure you can! I do it all the time!

[-Gews- 7443]

I bet there are many times when someone kills a fresh spawn but doesn't realize they're a fresh spawn because they can't make out if they have a weapon or not.

[Dekkymane 145]

This only happens to me in elektro. Seriously, have direct chat ready and a mic and say you're freindly. From my expereince they actually didn't shoot 65% of the time.

[Sem4ever 3]

I got out of the ATC (unarmed) and tried to get to the treeline (was running away from them).

[mzltv 2281]

Personally, I don't see why people are up in arms about it in this game because in every other game, spawnkill is something that it pretty much pointless to contest. What's gonna happen? You're just gonna spawn in again, somewhere else. It's a dickish move just to train an AS50 on the spawn point and drop a new player everytime he spawns there just for the fuck of it, but at the same time, sitting here and moaning about it won't change a thing.

Additionally, you can expect more KOS/Spawnkill now that they're bringing back the Makarov into your default gear.

[Captain Speirs 9]

A bandit will hold you up and take your things, only shooting you if you don't comply. Difference between a bandit and some who KoS.

I think i've ever only had one bandit "rob me" .. rest just shot me on sight. Of course the majority of them didn't even have bandit skins.

It's sad really that the mentality of most people go this way, of course i'm probably just unlucky as well. Heh.

[intensity 157]

As much as a bandit that I am, I won't kill fresh spawns. I just don't see any fun in it. Although, I will go out of my way to kill the people that do hunt down fresh spawns.

Additionally, you can expect more KOS/Spawnkill now that they're bringing back the Makarov into your default gear.

It's a Makarov, can't really do that much...

Edited April 23, 2013 by Intensity on DayZ

[Tek (DayZ) 95]

It's a Makarov, can't really do that much...

Makarovs can be deadly with a skilled player. I've taken out some people with Maks who were better armed, and it's always a thrill. Some shots to the head will do wonders. Also, fresh spawns with maks could just go shoot other fresh spawns in the leg and then runaway.

But then that other fresh spawn has a mak to and must learn to defend themself.

People need to get it through their thick and empty skull that just because your a fresh spawn does not make you immune to being shot from anyone by anything. Learn to play appropriately.

[intensity 157]

Makarovs can be deadly with a skilled player. I've taken out some people with Maks who were better armed, and it's always a thrill. Some shots to the head will do wonders. Also, fresh spawns with maks could just go shoot other fresh spawns in the leg and then runaway.

But then that other fresh spawn has a mak to and must learn to defend themself.

People need to get it through their thick and empty skull that just because your a fresh spawn does not make you immune to being shot from anyone by anything. Learn to play appropriately.

I've taken out players with it as well, but still, it's not that great of a weapon. You also have to remember, not everyone is good with PvP. I've seen plenty of people that are really good at surviving and thriving off the map in the most harsh conditions, but once they are involved with PvP they turn into a nervous breakdown and automatically develop Parkinson's while playing.

And with the right or wrong of killing new spawns, its simple; just don't engage unless they engage you first. Killing freshly spawned players isn't a challenge at all, which shows why I don't enjoy it, because without a challenge it becomes no fun.

[jdz (DayZ) 238]

Please don't confuse coast campers with bandits. Bandits roam the north when kids camp the coast

[AfterShave 140]

I don't see anything wrong with killing fresh spawns, if you make no attempt to conceal your location it's your own fault.

DIstance is your friend.

[audax 207]

I hate guys who kill unarmed people.

1) They dont have anything intresting.

2)is unfair

3)its too simple

4) you kos bcause they can found a weapon? just avoid them! in balota i find tons of freshspawn guy, and if they look dangerous for me, i just take my handgun and shot near theyr legs. This is enough to turn them away

[ImageCtrl 719]

When I was running there 2 guys (I think fully geared, sounded like they had good guns) killed me. I wasn't even playing for 3 minutes on that server. Are these people "bandits" or just dicks?

They are the people who make this game funny. Go to the north hill next time and look for Z spawn first.

[RJTurneR 112]

Bandits are guys that will pretty much **** your day up completly. A proper bandit will hold you up, take your gear, and leave you there with nothing but a broken leg.

Guys who KoS? I don't mind. Guys like that are just cold killers really, don't matter who or what you are, your dead. They make it somewhat more challenging knowing there around, given you have gear of course.

I expect standalone to bring in even more playstyles with it, as I expect people will now be factoring zombies among other things in their choices.

[AfterShave 140]

Most people who claim to hate bandits on these forums are actually bandits themselves.

I myself am a shameless bandit, I KoS and do it with pride.

Edited April 25, 2013 by AfterShave

[SilverBulleT (DayZ) 3]

Long story short;

1. If it's someone camping the spawn zones (esp with a sniper rifle), it's pretty lame.

2. Once you enter cities, airfields (or other military bases/outposts) as a fresh spawn, you should be prepared for the worst. If you walk around a corner and somebody is there - you could get shot simply out of fear/surprise/reaction. You have to understand that everyone has had their own experiences in DayZ, and most people don't trust strangers on sight.

When I first started playing (I've only been playing for about 3-4 weeks), I thought everyone would be friendly, working together, building bases and repairing vehicles, etc. That changed quickly when I approached the first group I ever saw (unarmed I might add), and took an axe in the chest.

I play with a small group of friends, and avoid all others where possible. I usually don't go looking for battles or to start wars/grudges, but If I see somebody approaching my position, it's pretty much KoS. I feel like if I let those guys get to my position and see me, 90% of them wouldn't think twice about killing me, so better them than me.

[trichome (DayZ) 198]

People shooting fresh spawns are playing DayZ their way and more power to them.

That's the thing about DayZ there is no rules, no balance, no fairness.

It's brutal, it will tear you to pieces and when your down will kick you in the teeth for good measure. When you spawn you should be scared and not just of zombies but people as they are your biggest threat.

[RJTurneR 112]

The problem is the apparent 'unwritten laws' of the game. Apparently it's wrong to shoot on sight or kill fresh spawns. Well... It really ain't?

I mean, it sucks if your on the receiving end of some guy camping between Kamenka and Kamorovo, but people do what they want and you just got to find ways to avoid it or fight against it.

[Tek (DayZ) 95]

I hate guys who kill unarmed people.

Just because someone is unarmed does not mean they are not a threat.

1) They dont have anything intresting.

To me it's not about if they have anything interesting. It's about potential threat.

2)is unfair

I'm sorry.... unfair? It's DayZ. Life in DayZ is not fair. Heck, life isn't fair.

3)its too simple

Simple... eh.. it's situation dependent.

4) you kos bcause they can found a weapon? just avoid them! in balota i find tons of freshspawn guy, and if they look dangerous for me, i just take my handgun and shot near theyr legs. This is enough to turn them away

That's your way of doing things. My way would be to just shoot them and let them spawn some place else.

Everyone makes a big deal that you shot someone who didn't have anything. Well that fresh spawn didn't have anything to lose. So the only thing he lost is a few minutes time respawning at a different location.

[SteveLord 32]

Many in this community have a funny way of approving PVP only if it's under certain conditions. It basically comes down to this.

-Anyone that doesn't attempt to rob you first is just a dick, not a bandit. Not cool.

-Killing on sight is not cool, fresh spawn or not.

-Killing someone with less gear than you is not cool.

-Killing someone with no gear is not cool.

-Killing someone, burying their body is not cool.

-Killing someone, instead of knocking them out or breaking their legs instead...not cool

Just because someone is unarmed does not mean they are not a threat.

To me it's not about if they have anything interesting. It's about potential threat.

I'm sorry.... unfair? It's DayZ. Life in DayZ is not fair. Heck, life isn't fair.

Simple... eh.. it's situation dependent.

That's your way of doing things. My way would be to just shoot them and let them spawn some place else.

Everyone makes a big deal that you shot someone who didn't have anything. Well that fresh spawn didn't have anything to lose. So the only thing he lost is a few minutes time respawning at a different location.

Someone here get's it. Let's not forget that a good amount of players utilize VOIP. Last thing I want is a bambi that's seen me and is communicating that to 4 other people.

Edited April 25, 2013 by SteveLord

[rudeboy (DayZ) 4]

I have lost all compassion in this game. I have never been a bandit but I believe I will be soon.

The number of times I have been in some tents and had an unarmed player say "don't shoot me, I'm friendly and then as soon as he finds a gun I'm dead. Or, they come at me unarmed claiming friendly just so their buddy can shoot me from behind and they loot me. I have given warnings to "fresh spawns" that there was a sniper in the direction they were moving in just to have them shoot at me after I have moved on. Offered gear to folks I found in the wilderness just to have them wait for me to move and shoot me in the back.

So now, I trust my brother and everyone else can DIAF. I don't shoot guys on the shore but if you are moving towards a weapon spawn, you will be killed. If you have a weapon and are moving towards me, you will be killed. If you are moving towards loot I want, you will be killed. If you have loot I want, you will be killed. Don't get me wrong, I have watched many a men running across the map with no idea I am watching and let them live but I don't even put effort into communication anymore. It is pointless in 90% of my encounters. I am done dying for being a nice guy. It always turns out bad and I get tired of spawning in Kamenka.

You can call it a dick move all you want but I am here to survive and you are just in my way.

[Tek (DayZ) 95]

I am done dying for being a nice guy. It always turns out bad and I get tired of spawning in Kamenka.

I play this game for the PvP, and the excitement the encounters bring.

But every once in a while I decide not to shoot at someone and I try to help them, or let them live. Every time i've done this i've take a bullet to the face or back. Never fails. And I always laugh and kick myself for not going with my instincts and just getting rid of the threat. It turns into a reminder of why I just KOS.