S&W 500 & fanning the old revolver

[LancerG2 369]

Anyways I just want a gun that kill people and makes a huge bloody mess. And somebody here brought up "Big gun, small penis". If where talking guns in those terms the S&W isn't used for that sort of thing. If somebody's compensating for something how about the .600 Nitro express revolver? No body ever should just bring up that reference because it's just, Ugh, I dunno? False?

http://www.funis2cool.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/pfeifer-zeliska-600-nitro-express-revolver-05.jpg

Edited April 9, 2013 by LancerG2

[jona (DayZ) 61]

I think they should add every weapon in the world into dayz =)

[enforcer1975 1111]

I think they should add every weapon in the world into dayz =)

Yes...how about starting with ones that are easily accessible, affordable and practical ( call it common, authentic or realistic i don't care ) for the people in the area...instead of ones you can get in Wallmart USA?

Edited April 9, 2013 by Enforcer

[-Gews- 7443]

Yes...how about starting with ones that are easily accessible, affordable and practical ( call it common, authentic or realistic i don't care ) for the people in the area...instead of ones you can get in Wallmart USA?

Are you my alternate account? ^_^

[enforcer1975 1111]

Are you my alternate account? ^_^

Hell yes!!!! I just want a logical experience just like you and not to find a weapon and ask myself...wtf should that gun actually be here...?

Edited April 9, 2013 by Enforcer

[LancerG2 369]

I think they should add every weapon in the world into dayz =)

YES. MAKE M4A1SLKJGHZSNG WITH MASTERKEY AND HEARTBEAT SENSOR AND DILDO BAYONET AND QUICKSCOPER ATTACHMENT AND LIGHTWIGHT PRO AND ULTRAVIOLET RAVE SKRILLEX MONTAGE

As much as I would agree. Not every weapon. Because then people add weapons likethis. ^

[Testwd3r235 2810]

I'm for it, I like revolvers and it makes sense for a loud powerful one to exist in DayZ.

[splehpnala 5]

Guaranteed head explosion?

http://cdn.unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/exploding_head_3.jpg

[Quaby 93]

Why not just make the old revolver blow less, or make the pistols better in general since IMO 15 shots of 9mm should probably kill someone :D

[-Gews- 7443]

Why not just make the old revolver blow less, or make the pistols better in general since IMO 15 shots of 9mm should probably kill someone :D

The latest changelog says they are making the pistols do more damage.

* [uPDATED] - Mac and 1911 Pistol dmg updated.

They should make the revolver fire faster though, I guess they were trying to strike a balance between the long double-action pull and the light single-action pull which can't really be shown in a game.

[LancerG2 369]

"They should make the revolver fire faster though"

 

So they should. End of topic. Enough said. Done.

[Chaingunfighter 917]

But aren't all those weapons from the RH weapon packs? I'm pretty sure they are.

Yes, like every DayZ mod out there, nearly all of the 'custom' weapons and vehicles are either made by Vilas or RobertHammer.

[Chaingunfighter 917]

The latest changelog says they are making the pistols do more damage.

They should make the revolver fire faster though, I guess they were trying to strike a balance between the long double-action pull and the light single-action pull which can't really be shown in a game.

 

What they really need to do is increase the MP5A5's damage. It's quite possibly the worst gun in the game if you intend to do damage, and it only really makes up for it by being one of the few weapons with an actual burst fire mode, as well as it's really low volume (Especially on the MP5SD6) 

I'd rather just take a powerful primary and use an M9SD instead, though. Much more effective.

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On topic to the thread;

I recently had a chance to fire a bunch of guns, one of which included a S&W 500 (This was my first time actually firing a firearm firsthand, so this would obviously be different per person.) 

It did punch through a 3 inch block of concrete, so it's definitely powerful. But, like the Desert Eagle, it's so impractical. Even with earplugs, it was very loud, and the recoil had my wrists hurting for a few minutes after firing it off. Not to mention how inaccurate it was past short range. 

If they honestly want to add a 'powerful' revolver, the highest I'd go would be a .44, which is much more common and is not nearly as bad in any of the downsides that a .500 has (Depending on the revolver) 

However, if they really wanted to, I guess they could create and add one in that maybe only 5-10 players out of, say, 2000 have it. This seems like it'd be more of something to do further down the road, though, because the weapons that they focus on should be ones that would make sense, and add in the really rare ones later. (I'd have nothing wrong with something like a Desert Eagle if they had already focused one weapons that made sense and it was piss rare. Gews probably disagrees with me.)

[AP_Norris 1018]

I want more variation in guns eventually in the SA.

but IMO all the guns they include should at least be realistic.

A .45 ACP doesn't take 10 shots to kill with, for example the 4500 damage was much more realistic IMO

in the revolver range I want a single action and a couple different sizes of revolver.

.44 magnum? 357 is a great caliber IMO.

[LancerG2 369]

What they really need to do is increase the MP5A5's damage. It's quite possibly the worst gun in the game if you intend to do damage, and it only really makes up for it by being one of the few weapons with an actual burst fire mode, as well as it's really low volume (Especially on the MP5SD6) 

I'd rather just take a powerful primary and use an M9SD instead, though. Much more effective.

 

Godspeed. The sub-machine gun is so unappreciated. Assault Rifles are mainstream anyway. They should also buff the bizon too.

[Chaingunfighter 917]

Godspeed. The sub-machine gun is so unappreciated. Assault Rifles are mainstream anyway. They should also buff the bizon too.

Yeah, the bizon in fact, is weaker than the MP5. However, it isn't a very significant damage reduction and it has a huge mag capacity as well as a suppressor. Besides that, it's almost impossible to find anyway, and ammunition isn't much different, so you don't hear about it too much.

I still have always been the guy (in any game that I play) that seems to prefer semi-autos (like the M-14) over assault rifles, anyway. Fully-automatic is generally impractical unless you have control over recoil and are fighting a target which can sustain many hits. Even when I use something like the M4A1 or AKM, I always set it to semi-automatic, because I don't like wasting ammunition.

They should probably consider adding a few more sub-machineguns in the standalone. Realistically, there aren't really that many SMGs that I can think of that would be common (SMGs are almost never common anywhere in the world, anyway) except for things like the PPSH-41 or PPS-43, and maybe the French MAT-49 or the MP-40. I'm sure there are some more, like different MP5 variants, but I can't really think of too many. In recent history, SMGs are usually replaced by carbines because the carbines are still very compact but pack a bigger punch. Law enforcement still uses a lot of them, and many militaries also do in secondary roles (Like pilots, who aren't expected to fight on the ground) or special operations.

There are definitely some SMGs I would like to have because I think they are cool (Such as the TDI Kriss or the Uzi) but those aren't exactly common. Maybe the Uzi, but who knows.

 

(Edit)

I do disagree with 'removing' the old revolver. I think it's still an interesting gun at the least, and a .45ACP revolver is kind of cool, but since they are redesigning weapons they may as well go for better models. If it's an option though, why not both?

Edited August 11, 2013 by Chaingunfighter

[AP_Norris 1018]

^I don't see why MP5 and bison should do more base damage than any other 9mm pistol, it should get its bonuses in range, accuracy, fire rate and controll. If they wanna buff the 9mm damage I'm all for it though.

I would really like them to just base the weapons off reality in DayZ.

[Chaingunfighter 917]

^I don't see why MP5 and bison should do more base damage than any other 9mm pistol, it should get its bonuses in range, accuracy, fire rate and controll. If they wanna buff the 9mm damage I'm all for it though.

I would really like them to just base the weapons off reality in DayZ.

That's what I meant, they should buff the 9x18 and 9x19 damage. The problem is, the Makarov is used a lot where the Bizon isn't, but they have to keep it balanced as well as realistic and I don't see how it would take 15-16 shots to kill someone with an MP5. The MP5 has a decent range even at medium distance, and it has three firing modes (semi-auto, burst and auto) which I believe is unique to the MP5. Obviously the SMGs have a faster fire rate than handguns, and the recoil is mostly nonexistant.

It's not a per say 'bad' gun in any real region except for damage, but it's just so low that there are other guns that are much better.

[AP_Norris 1018]

That's what I meant, they should buff the 9x18 and 9x19 damage. The problem is, the Makarov is used a lot where the Bizon isn't, but they have to keep it balanced as well as realistic and I don't see how it would take 15-16 shots to kill someone with an MP5. The MP5 has a decent range even at medium distance, and it has three firing modes (semi-auto, burst and auto) which I believe is unique to the MP5. Obviously the SMGs have a faster fire rate than handguns, and the recoil is mostly nonexistant.

It's not a per say 'bad' gun in any real region except for damage, but it's just so low that there are other guns that are much better.

Yep I agree nobody takes more than a couple 9mm shots to the chest.

Shoulders and gut they don't have the power to cause significant damage.

But to major organs they should do good damage.

Edited August 12, 2013 by AP_Norris

[madhellsing 31]

I think these should be really common and modelled accurately. By this I mean:

- Stupidly loud, so much so that I can fire my trust Lee Enfield in safety as ever Z for 5 miles will be running towards the sound of this "Why yes, my genitalia is smaller than average, how did you guess?" pistol.

- Very inaccurate because the shooter is going to flinch like Michael J. Fox getting Tazered just thinking about the recoil.

- Very slow follow up shots as the shooter will be picking it up off the floor (possibly along with teeth and fingers) after each shot unless they have the grip strength of a champion free climber.

Well this guns are not made for everyone. The ones that this are meant for use it very efficiently.