Shooting out of the passenger seats of vehicles

[byrgesen 1341]

Great idea, although your scope has to be very shaky and almost impossible to aim, if the vehicle is moving.

But being able to park a car on a hill and use the door as a aiming support, to steady the aim, is a very very good idea.

Especially with the new mechanism to open and close vehicle doors, they talk about in the devblog.

Would love to see this if its done right, no GTA style shooting pls hehe.

[Blondedash 403]

Great idea, although your scope has to be very shaky and almost impossible to aim, if the vehicle is moving.

But being able to park a car on a hill and use the door as a aiming support, to steady the aim, is a very very good idea.

Especially with the new mechanism to open and close vehicle doors, they talk about in the devblog.

Would love to see this if its done right, no GTA style shooting pls hehe.

maybe the way Just Cause 2 ai does it.

[byrgesen 1341]

maybe the way Just Cause 2 ai does it.

Not a game for me so i dont know how it works there :)

But if its done right it could be an amazing feature really.

[Clumzy (DayZ) 377]

Man, a lot of people think it would be just impossible to hit anything at all while in a moving vehicle. I once read an article about little birds being used in the middle east, sometimes the soldiers would just lean out of the side and shoot with their M4s. If the US military does this out of a freaking helicopter (and there are ArmA mods out there for this, too), would it be so implausible to do it in a car? Sure, it might be difficult to aim on rough terrain, or if you try to 360 no scope them with your enfield, but if you lean out of a car with an automatic weapon then you're gonna do some damage.

Oh, and it definitely shouldn't be limited to pistols, and SMGs. We shouldn't be artificially limiting the players just for balance.

[Blondedash 403]

Not a game for me so i dont know how it works there :)

But if its done right it could be an amazing feature really.

they use the door as front cover and can shoot 270 degrees.

[Blondedash 403]

Man, a lot of people think it would be just impossible to hit anything at all while in a moving vehicle. I once read an article about little birds being used in the middle east, sometimes the soldiers would just lean out of the side and shoot with their M4s. If the US military does this out of a freaking helicopter (and there are ArmA mods out there for this, too), would it be so implausible to do it in a car? Sure, it might be difficult to aim on rough terrain, or if you try to 360 no scope them with your enfield, but if you lean out of a car with an automatic weapon then you're gonna do some damage.

Oh, and it definitely shouldn't be limited to pistols, and SMGs. We shouldn't be artificially limiting the players just for balance.

jc2 ai leans out and they can shoot 180 degrees with minimal cover when shooting out of a helicopter.

Edited April 3, 2013 by nousernamehelp

[byrgesen 1341]

Man, a lot of people think it would be just impossible to hit anything at all while in a moving vehicle. I once read an article about little birds being used in the middle east, sometimes the soldiers would just lean out of the side and shoot with their M4s. If the US military does this out of a freaking helicopter (and there are ArmA mods out there for this, too), would it be so implausible to do it in a car? Sure, it might be difficult to aim on rough terrain, or if you try to 360 no scope them with your enfield, but if you lean out of a car with an automatic weapon then you're gonna do some damage.

Oh, and it definitely shouldn't be limited to pistols, and SMGs. We shouldn't be artificially limiting the players just for balance.

First of all, you dont have the mobility in a car seat you would have in the chopper. Theres just not room enough.

Second, a car driving in Chernarus is not stabile lol, especially if your offroad.

Third, you cant hit shit with 50 km/h and an automatic rifle leaning out the window, you have a very unstabile shooting stance so recoil would be inceased and because of the weight of the gun it would sway when ever the vehicle moves.

Also remember what you are talking about is highly trained soldiers and military vehicles.

A small civilian vehicle is not designed to do anything like this, and its much more unstabile then military vehicles.

And you are just a survivor in Chernarus, chances are you arent a soldier, and even if you are you need alot of training to be able to do this without issues.

Edited April 3, 2013 by Byrgesen

[Clumzy (DayZ) 377]

First of all, you dont have the mobility in a car seat you would have in the chopper. Theres just not room enough.

Second, a car driving in Chernarus is not stabile lol, especially if your offroad.

Third, you cant hit shit with 50 km/h and an automatic rifle leaning out the window, you have a very unstabile shooting stance so recoil would be inceased and because of the weight of the gun it would sway when ever the vehicle moves.

Also remember what you are talking about is highly trained soldiers and military vehicles.

A small civilian vehicle is not designed to do anything like this, and its much more unstabile then military vehicles.

And you are just a survivor in Chernarus, chances are you arent a soldier, and even if you are you need alot of training to be able to do this without issues.

Skip to about 1 minute in. Yeah, it's not full speed, but it is offroad and he tears that car up.

[byrgesen 1341]

lol yeh from 5m distance and in the back of a pickup truck going max 10 km/h....

I was talking about shooting out of a vehicle, from a passenger seat at full speed, with your weapon hanging out the window.

Ofc the difficulty should change based on weapon and speed of the vehicles, but thats a very very bad example, if you were to do that in DayZ you would die lol.

Drive by with 5km/h at 5m distance is a bad idea hehe.

Sure sitting in the back and shooting is easier, but thats not all the suggestion was about.

Its just one of the possible possitions you can shoot from and not everybody wants a pickup in DayZ :)

Try doing what he is doing in the video, at 50-100m range with 50+ km/h.

Near impossible to hit anything.

Edited April 3, 2013 by Byrgesen

[Blondedash 403]

lol yeh from 5m distance and in the back of a pickup truck going max 10 km/h....

I was talking about shooting out of a vehicle, from a passenger seat at full speed, with your weapon hanging out the window.

Ofc the difficulty should change based on weapon and speed of the vehicles, but thats a very very bad example, if you were to do that in DayZ you would die lol.

Drive by with 5km/h at 5m distance is a bad idea hehe.

Sure sitting in the back and shooting is easier, but thats not all the suggestion was about.

Its just one of the possible possitions you can shoot from and not everybody wants a pickup in DayZ :)

Try doing what he is doing in the video, at 50-100m range with 50+ km/h.

Near impossible to hit anything.

that is how it isn't op you have no real range but you can at least shoot.

[byrgesen 1341]

that is how it isn't op you have no real range but you can at least shoot.

Exactly, you should be able to shoot from anywhere, but your aim should be affected by your position in the vehicle and the speed of the vehicle.

If your in the backseat of a HMW, it should be way harder to hit, then shooting from the back of a URAL, because of the restricted movement and shooting stance.

Edited April 3, 2013 by Byrgesen

[Blondedash 403]

Exactly, you should be able to shoot from anywhere, but your aim should be affected by the position and speed of the vehicle.

If your in the backseat of a HMW, it should be way harder to hit, then shooting from the back of a URAL, because of the restricted movement and shooting stance.

you'd be very exposed so if a sniper sees xD. im no scientist i wont know force and gravity.

[byrgesen 1341]

you'd be very exposed so if a sniper sees xD. im no scientist i wont know force and gravity.

True, but you are already exsposed in the URAL, just not able to do anything while sitting there :)

That should deff change, as people arent static dummies in a car heh.

[Blondedash 403]

True, but you are already exsposed in the URAL, just not able to do anything while sitting there :)

That should deff change, as people arent static dummies in a car heh.

I cant sit still so why should they not have the privilege to move.

[Trizzo 632]

You can shoot anything out of a car window, the problem should be your eardrums.

...i would like to see the ability to shoot off the back of a ute (pickup) tray added. I 'mthinking shooting the M240/m107 off the tray, over the roof (as one does when spotlighting) would be frustating to players and opens up a lot of interesting tactics. Two is good reasons to add it, nothing would be more crushing than.

(beep, beep)

"Ohh shit a free ride, hey man, whats up"

Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr (thats a PDW mag)

"You are dead"

QQ

OR...a distant pickup truck looms over the next hill and a gpmg opens up...mmm...i love being supressed and firing machine guns

Edited April 3, 2013 by Trizzo

[Blondedash 403]

id like to see a aa gun on the back of a ute that would be awesome.

[byrgesen 1341]

You can shoot anything out of a car window, the problem should be your eardrums.

...i would like to see the ability to shoot of the back of a ute tray added. I thinking shooting the M240/m107 off the tray of the pickup, over the roof (as on does when spotlighting) would be frustating to players and opens up a lot of interesting tactics. Two is good reasons to add it, nothing would be more crushing than.

(beep, beep)

"Ohh shit a free ride, hey man, whats up"

Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr (thats a PDW mag)

"You are dead"

QQ

very true, but thats an entirely other issue, just like firing a weapon in a small room would ruin your ears.

But i really hope the Dev team wants stuff like this, it will add a whole new gameplay element and make vehicles more valuable then they are now.

[thegalakrondian 17]

Would be nice, although I don't think most people would wait for you to get as close to get a slightly accurate shot, they would be firing rounds if they saw a machine gun sticking out of a windshield aimed for their head while the car is driving atleast 100mph. Another thing is not everyone is going to be on a road for most of their DayZ adventures, I guess you can do it off-road with a good off-road vehicle. Then it adds the situation for car crashes would be interesting if you shot out the wheels when the car is moving at 100mph and the car flips over 720 degrees and BAM. I see it like it depends on your situation kind of case. ;)

Edited April 4, 2013 by thegalakrondian

[liquidcactus 719]

id like to see a aa gun on the back of a ute that would be awesome.

HELL YEAH SON.. i would love to see an AA gun on a ute for sure..

also i notice you are in Brisbane me 2 woOo !

[KA4LxTITANx 8]

Now tell me this as well, if you supposedly " wouldn't be able to hit anything out of a moving window" then explain to me how helicopter guns work? I can hit somebody with the gunner of a heli while moving when we are way up in the air. So how would it be any more difficult to hit someone as you drive by or someone you are chasing in a car? Checkmate.

[Sutinen 635]

I think it shouldn't be like you lean out of a window and shoot style, instead you would shoot the gun basically from inside the car, only leaving the barrel outside. That way you can have the rifle shouldered and aim accurately. Of course with short barrel weapons, you would be able to cover more from the sides.

Edited June 10, 2013 by Sutinen

[Rutch 4]

To me one of the most important reason is that it'll make cars something else than a fast moving death trap.

If you are in a car with a group, there is 1 guy outside of the car and you can't run him over, you're basically screwed. You and your mates getting out first need to get this animation before being able to pull your gun on him. And if you stay in the car he can shoot you up with 1 mag.

Adding the possibility of shooting out of cars will at least make cars less vulnerable(because they shouldn't). You should be able to enter a town with a vehicle in relative safety instead of having to be extremely careful and park it 200m away.

You shouldn't be able to no scope headshot every zed and player out there, while in a vehicle. But I bet if you have a rifle, are sticking out of the car window/aiming your gun outside the window and you see a player 20m away. You''ll be able to suppress him or even hit him a couple of times if you empty a full mag. And that's what it's mainly about, instead of being a free target because the vehicle can't defend itself, you'll have to take cover when you hear a vehicle coming down your street.

Players in the vehicle, and the vehicle itself are extremely vulnerable, let them at least fend off for themselves.