give us what we (do not) need! - junk and unique loot

[joe_mcentire 2073]

Inspired by several threads and of course this famous one from joeyslucky22 i wanted to gain a thread where we all can focus on items of any kind or use which you would like to see ingame. Everything is allowed from absolutely useless junk over seemingly useless loot to must-have memorabilia.

• Think about what would you find in an ordinary home/on farms/on a city street/in a vehicle/city hall etc. most likely?
  
• What would have some sentimental value to you but possibly/most likely not to others?
  
• What would have some "sentimental" value to the "to be established" society in this fictional apocalyptic world (besides bullets, fuel, or food etc.)?
  
• Always keep in mind, your loot to fit more or less plausibly this given scenario.
  

Some examples:

• Banknotes
  

• fits the scenario
  
• can be found almost everywhere and at some points even in piles
  
• can burn
  
• can be used as bait??
  
• interesting question: What would you do, when you find a bag of banknotes?
  

• a bold 2001 vintage of "Crimean's Finest" sparkling wine
  

• fits the scenario even better than banknotes!
  
• can be found very rarely. Maybe in a Manor or in a Bank..
  
• consumable?..or just a prop of very sentimental value, worth to defend till the end.
  

• CD's, cassettes, DVD's.
  

• can be found occasionally
  
• can be used to broadcast music/info from radio stations?
  
• could contain background info of the outbrake or other mysteries (maybe investigated by local police forces)
  
• well could CD's/DVD's reflect light??
  

• pieces of shattered mirrors/glass
  

• literally everywhere were once human settled
  
• can reflect light
  
• could be used as "swift to acquire" - shivs
  

These examples do not have to have a real functionality (eg. consumable or useable in anyway) in the first place. But these functionalites could than be added eventually.

The idea is simply to add more diversity in adding seemingly useless junk as money or maybe unique loot as champagne/sparkling wine into the game to even advance the idea of scavenging. Going through junk and making decisions "That is awesome, but can i afford my remaining space to be wasted for sparkling wine? Ohh YEAH it can..."

Some other ideas: Cloths&towels, vac-packed instant-coffee, watches, coins, puppets&dolls, Matryoshkas, pans, fire extinguishers, ...

edit: Please skip all posts from post #4 to post #19 unless you want to read why glass can reflect light :facepalm:

Edited May 21, 2013 by joe_mcentire

[stinger2005 16]

lol maybe the CD's, cassettes, DVD's have songs on them and you could play them in the cars as you driving lol

[beatSTV 631]

not too fussed about that to be honest. I want the diary idea which i think is being implemented and also to see what past owners my weapons gear have had

[thederper121 95]

• pieces of shattered mirrors/glass
  

• can reflect light
  

*ahem*

Glass cannot reflect light, as light passes through instead of bouncing off of it. How else do you see sun rays through windows? This one can and will not work, seeing as it is basically impossible for glass to reflect light.

[joe_mcentire 2073]

*ahem*

Glass cannot reflect light, as light passes through instead of bouncing off of it. How else do you see sun rays through windows? This one can and will not work, seeing as it is basically impossible for glass to reflect light.

besides the fact that it was just an example and you fixate on a single point of a brought up example....
*ahem*
complete nonsense thank you very much...google Fresnel equations or better i'll do that for you http://lmgtfy.com/?q...snel equations. Edited December 16, 2013 by joe_mcentire

[thederper121 95]

besides the fact that it was just an example and you fixate on a single point of an brought up example....

*ahem*

:D complete nonsense thank you very much...google Fresnel equations or better i'll do that for you http://lmgtfy.com/?q...snel equations.

WINDOW'S DONT REFLECT MOST OR ALL LIGHT

THEREFORE, GLASS = NOT REFLECTIVE.

Good day, sir!

[joe_mcentire 2073]

GLASS = NOT REFLECTIVE.

wow you just defied physics! Kudos to you and beans

Edited February 21, 2013 by joe_mcentire

[thederper121 95]

wow you just defied physics! Kudos to you and beans

sunrays

SUNRAYS

[joe_mcentire 2073]

sunrays

SUNRAYS

:D :D

[Odin. 34]

*ahem*

Glass cannot reflect light, as light passes through instead of bouncing off of it. How else do you see sun rays through windows? This one can and will not work, seeing as it is basically impossible for glass to reflect light.

Glass DOES reflect light but not as much as a mirror, you can see your reflections in glass, but it doesn't reflect all the light, only some passes through.

[thederper121 95]

Glass DOES reflect light but not as much as a mirror, you can see your reflections in glass, but it doesn't reflect all the light, only some passes through.

This is what I'm trying to say, and that glass doesn't reflect enough light to be as efficent as a mirror.

[taco241 393]

I've learned something from this thread. But sadly, not about glass and mirrors.

Edited February 21, 2013 by taco241

[guyver1 70]

This is what I'm trying to say, and that glass doesn't reflect enough light to be as efficent as a mirror.

Glass cannot reflect light, as light passes through instead of bouncing off of it. How else do you see sun rays through windows? This one can and will not work, seeing as it is basically impossible for glass to reflect light.

Seems to me like you're back-tracking because you're wrong and desperately trying to save face

[thederper121 95]

Seems to me like you're back-tracking because you're wrong and desperately trying to save face

I don't understand your English.

[DirtyCry 118]

*ahem*

Glass cannot reflect light, as light passes through instead of bouncing off of it. How else do you see sun rays through windows? This one can and will not work, seeing as it is basically impossible for glass to reflect light.

Thats completly bullshit. Every fucking window reflects light very well. Every object on this planet is reflection light. And normal window glass is one of the better light reflectors.

Wtf is wrong with you?^^ okay... everybody makes mistakes...

This is what I'm trying to say, and that glass doesn't reflect enough light to be as efficent as a mirror.

Is reflects enough to blind u till your eyes stop working for every time.

Edited February 21, 2013 by DirtyCry

[nimrodaus@gmail.com 17]

*ahem*

Glass cannot reflect light, as light passes through instead of bouncing off of it. How else do you see sun rays through windows? This one can and will not work, seeing as it is basically impossible for glass to reflect light.

That's the biggest load of crap I've ever Hurd. I suppose your going to try and sell that water isn't wet either?

[stinger2005 16]

sorry but your all wrong maybe you should ask your browser --- can glass reflect light . answer i came up with and anwser i new before looking up was yes ---- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reflection_%28physics%29

[Lady Kyrah 1109]

Any shard of glass can be used to reflect the sun in someone's eyes FYI...

[joe_mcentire 2073]

holy...sh...ok would it be possible to get back to the topic to some extent?

The core question was something completely different as far as i remember, than the debate about elemental physic conceptions...

Inspired by several threads and of course this famous one from joeyslucky22 i wanted to gain a thread where we all can focus on items of any kind or use which you would like to see ingame. Everything is allowed from absolutely useless junk over seemingly useless loot to must-have memorabilia.

• Think about what would you find in an ordinary home/on farms/on a city street/in a vehicle/city hall etc. most likely?
  
• What would have some sentimental value to you but possibly/most likely not to others?
  
• What would have some "sentimental" value to the "to be established" society in this fictional apocalyptic world (besides bullets, fuel, or food etc.)?
  
• Always keep in mind, your loot to fit more or less plausibly this given scenario.
  

...

These examples do not have to have a real functionality (eg. consumable or useable in anyway) in the first place. But these functionalites could than be added eventually.

The idea is simply to add more diversity in adding seemingly useless junk as money or maybe unique loot as champagne/sparkling wine into the game to even advance the idea of scavenging. Going through junk and making decisions "That is awesome, but can i afford my remaining space to be wasted for sparkling wine? Ohh YEAH it can..."

Edited February 21, 2013 by joe_mcentire

[slivniku@gmail.com 93]

• a bold 2001 vintage of "Crimean's Finest" sparkling wine
  

I like the idea, but am offended that you put sparkling wine as junk in the same post :huh:

[FlashHawk4 44]

Guys, guys, guys.

OP didn't mean that windowpanes work as mirrors. He was referring to the fact that window glass can reflect small amounts of sunlight, which is what glare is.

But yes, there needs to be more semi-useless stuff. I think everything should more or less be a weapon, whether it's good or not, just like Dead Island. If a zombie apocalypse breaks out, I'm not wandering from house to house looking for a gun, crowbar, or hatchet specifically. I will grab the first thing I can swing, even if it means ripping a leg off of a wooden chair or breaking a bottle of sparkling wine on a table to cut a fool.

Also, Urban Dead had some items like this that don't really do anything in the technical game mechanics, like a crucifix. But players actually started carrying it as a religious icon, a clan symbol, and stuff like that.

Just spitballin' here.

Edited February 21, 2013 by FlashHawk4

[joe_mcentire 2073]

some loot, that could be used later in the game for more than just aesthetic purposes:

• cigarettes, also possibly used for transaction purposes --> leaves later possibility for decreased appetite due to nicotine ergo food-bar decreases more slowly; also chances for addiction and withdrawal effects
  
• fertilizers (russia is one of greatest producers) at farms --> leaves later possibility for self-crafted explosives; farming?
  
• polaroid camera --> leaves later possibility for instantly taking and placing pictures ingame, use with batteries and film
  
• empty bullet casings --> leaves later possibility to create bullets yourself; along of course with some other ingredients eg. gunpowder..
  
• duct tape --> watch myth busters
  
• crutches --> leaves later possibility to walk upright and faster when legs are broken
  
• brooms/broomsticks --> leaves later possibility to use as splint for broken limbs (along with duct tape)
  
• med. braces --> obvious
  

edit #1:

• at least some old destroyed/ruined books (Marx, Engels, Lenin, Trotsky, and of course former soviet/russian literature) --> maybe in a future release books would have an "exploding"-animation when shot
  
• pencils (durable, but written text in a possibly impl. note-system eventually will fade) and pens/ ball pens (not durable, but text won't fade)
  
• mugs, pots, cups, glasses, plates --> well these just as props
  

Edited May 21, 2013 by joe_mcentire

[joe_mcentire 2073]

... or breaking a bottle of sparkling wine on a table to cut a fool.

If this will be implemented and i am certain it will be, and if i, under unlucky circumstances, will observe you breaking that bottle, unless it is with a sword to crack it open, i am going to FIGHT YOU! I WILL FIGHT YOU! YOU HEAR ME!?

Edited February 21, 2013 by joe_mcentire

[CreepySalad 108]

I love it. It would totally add depth to the game.

Finding seemingly useless stuff, and there being a small use for them, (or even none!) would be cool just to have.

[DirtyCry 118]

some loot, that could be used later in the game for more than just aesthetic purposes:

• cigarettes, also possibly used for transaction purposes --> leaves later possibility for decreased appetite due to nicotine ergo food-bar decreases more slowly; also chances for addiction and withdrawal effects
  
• fertilizers (russia is one of greatest producers) at farms --> leaves later possibility for self-crafted explosives; farming?
  
• polaroid camera --> leaves later possibility for instantly taking and placing pictures ingame, use with batteries and film
  
• empty bullet casings --> leaves later possibility to create bullets yourself; along of course with some other ingridients eg. gunpowder..
  
• duct tape --> watch myth busters
  
• crutches --> leaves later possibility to walk upright and faster when legs are broken
  
• brooms/broomsticks --> leaves later possibility to use as splint for broken limbs (along with duct tape)
  
• med. braces --> obvious
  
• ....
  
• ..
  
• .
  

• High powered(100mw +) hand held Laser pointers (distract zombies, blind players, show friends stuff, light source at night, make fire in combination with paper, combine with duct tape to get a laser marker for weapons)[needs batteries]
  

Edited February 22, 2013 by DirtyCry