Jumping

[Wargunner 55]

Yes jumping. The ability to press space bar and jump freely.

I can't stand it in multiplayer games. I can't think of anything that destroys the atmoshpere more (except combat logging) than having a player spam the jump key while in the middle of a fire fight. I haven't seen any info on this regarding the SA, so hopefully it stays out. The mechanism we have now could use a tad more refinement though.

Thoughts?

[Fenrod 60]

I don't think so, or else Rocket would have shown this feature in the SA video.

I hope it stays that way.

[-Gews- 7443]

Agreed, jumping should stay in the arcade games. I like the vault mechanism we have now, since it can't be used by aspiring bunny snipers.

I think there was a ticket on dev-heaven suggesting that the vaulting animation should be sped up, and I agree with that - it's a bit too slow right now.

[Michaelvoodoo25 3120]

Keep it away, I am not a fan of the new Vault action neither, looks like a right launch off. Keep teh old vault for fences and maybey a climb over action too for extra Sneaky Beaky.

I would also like a dive action, hear shots and you dive, not so good in open spaces but in buildings and woods etc, would add some real suspence.

[Chris529 380]

would be cool if you could run towards an obstacle holding V and when you get close to it you jump over it or if its a wall you jump and grab it and pull yourself over it.

edit: in the latest update you can tap v while running and your character will jump and roll which will get over those small fences etc which is awesome

Edited February 7, 2013 by Chris529

[mr_chabowski@live.co.uk 2416]

Personally, I feel the ease with which you can mantle over fences/walls should depend on what's in your hands.

With both hands free you should be able to vault a fence quickly and easily,

With a one handed weapon it should be much the same as being unarmed, except you'd be more careful, so it might take slightly longer.

With both hands on your gun, getting over a waist-high wall should be at least a little bit of a hassle.

[Michaelvoodoo25 3120]

Hopefully we will get wall climbing and when you get over the other side you hang (Just in case there is a long drop)

and then pew pew, sniper kill, hanging on the wall!

"5 green survivors hanging on the wall"

Edited February 6, 2013 by Michaelvoodoo25

[krihelion 175]

sry, dont want CS or Quake jump fest pvp

[DirtyCry 118]

lol... so much simple minded peolple here. There are only "no jumping" or "jumpspam" in your little world.

Every human can jump. Everyone can do it, evan with a AS50 in you hands you can jump over a car, fence and everthing else what is smaler as yourself.

There are so fucking much ways to get jumping in the game. Like Stalker, you have a sprint/jump bar. You can jump 3 times in a row then you have to wait till the bar gets full again.

Get this in dayz!

No one can do bunnyhopping but you can do fast jumps over a fence or behinde cover like everyone can do it in the real world.

sry, dont want CS or Quake jump fest pvp

How can a humen creature thinking in that stupid way? OMFG... people are so stupid.

Agreed, jumping should stay in the arcade games. I like the vault mechanism we have now, since it can't be used by aspiring bunny snipers.

I think there was a ticket on dev-heaven suggesting that the vaulting animation should be sped up, and I agree with that - it's a bit too slow right now.

Exactly the same simple minded stupid way of thinking... Only no jumping or rapidjumping.

THERE IS SOMETHING BETWEEN THERE YOU STUPID FUCKERS! STOP WRITING BULLSHIT!

[FinalNinja447 129]

would be cool if you could run towards an obstacle holding V and when you get close to it you jump over it or if its a wall you jump and grab it and pull yourself over it.

lol... so much simple minded peolple here. There are only "no jumping" or "jumpspam" in your little world.

Every human can jump. Everyone can do it, evan with a AS50 in you hands you can jump over a car, fence and everthing else what is smaler as yourself.

There are so fucking much ways to get jumping in the game. Like Stalker, you have a sprint/jump bar. You can jump 3 times in a row then you have to wait till the bar gets full again.

Get this in dayz!

No one can do bunnyhopping but you can do fast jumps over a fence or behinde cover like everyone can do it in the real world.

How can a humen creature thinking in that stupid way? OMFG... people are so stupid.

Exactly the same simple minded stupid way of thinking... Only no jumping or rapidjumping.

THERE IS SOMETHING BETWEEN THERE YOU STUPID FUCKERS! STOP WRITING BULLSHIT!

Are you mad?

[NoyZ (DayZ) 66]

Peter Rabbit can GTFO. :murder:

When was the last time you've seen real combat footage with soldiers bunny hopping out in the open to keep from getting shot? Fucking NEVER!!!! It would have to be disabled while the combat timer was in effect. Too much bullshit can come with it.

Jump over a car with an AS50 and you call others simple minded? DirtyCry is a WarZero moron. :blink: Obvious troll is obvious. If not, alternative makes me sick to my stomache. :facepalm:

"2 morons sitting on a bridge. The one moron fell off and the other didn't. Why?"

answer-- he was moron than the other moron. DirtyCry is the one that fell ^^^

Edited February 6, 2013 by NoyZ

[victusmortuus 1074]

lol... so much simple minded peolple here. There are only "no jumping" or "jumpspam" in your little world.

Every human can jump. Everyone can do it, evan with a AS50 in you hands you can jump over a car, fence and everthing else what is smaler as yourself.

There are so fucking much ways to get jumping in the game. Like Stalker, you have a sprint/jump bar. You can jump 3 times in a row then you have to wait till the bar gets full again.

Get this in dayz!

No one can do bunnyhopping but you can do fast jumps over a fence or behinde cover like everyone can do it in the real world.

How can a humen creature thinking in that stupid way? OMFG... people are so stupid.

Exactly the same simple minded stupid way of thinking... Only no jumping or rapidjumping.

THERE IS SOMETHING BETWEEN THERE YOU STUPID FUCKERS! STOP WRITING BULLSHIT!

Mr Dirty what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no beans, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Edited February 6, 2013 by Victus Mortuus

[kalashinkov 34]

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OMFG... people are so stupid.

THERE IS SOMETHING BETWEEN THERE YOU STUPID FUCKERS! STOP WRITING BULLSHIT!

You are so aggressive . Goosfraba buddy

[mzltv 2281]

A fast vault you're able to perform whilst running will solve all the problems that jumping would... without the Garry's Mod vibe.

Just saying...

Edited February 6, 2013 by mzltv

[toiletguy 3]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vklOq6KFQy4

Vaulting over the walls with CBA and taking cover back to the wall is pretty awesome. I've been using this in SP for a year now.

[dallas 5195]

I never had anyone shoot actual bullets in my general direction.

But I remember hauling kilos of gear on exercises and annoyingly taking cover, when some fools decided to open up firing blanks from a treeline. You either had to options: To get down in cover while protecting your gear and knees or crash uncontrollable down behind cover. I don't recall any backflips, forward rolls or amazing abrobatics, just people huffing and puffing, hurting their hands and faces as they crashed into ditches, rocks and tree stumps.

I think Rocket has said, he wants to change ArmA's tradition of forcing every animation to lock the player into one motion at the time, make the transitions more fluid and smooth, with hopefully will affect both how easily you're pass obstacles, throw grenades and the likes. Personally I never had a major problem with ArmA's sometimes funky animation, because when you're carrinyg a weapon and a big stupidass pack, you're movement isn't always described as fluent, precise and elegant.

However I think there's room for improvement. :)

Edited February 6, 2013 by Dallas

[Odrama Vin Laden 18]

_{Everyone jumped on him (no pun intended), but in a way hes right. If we were limited to say 2-3 good jumps and then our "stamina bar" would be depleted, perhaps it would casue you to run slower or something like that. If jumping was enabled for reasonable situations but had deterrents for abuse I dont see what the problem would be.}

_{There have been so many times in arma and dayz where I thought, "hmm, If i could only jump a foot off the ground to get over/on this object it would save me a ton of trouble'}

_{Its unrealistic to say that we shouldnt be able to jump.}

Edited February 6, 2013 by Odrama Vin Laden

[DirtyCry 118]

Peter Rabbit can GTFO. :murder:

When was the last time you've seen real combat footage with soldiers bunny hopping out in the open to keep from getting shot? Fucking NEVER!!!! It would have to be disabled while the combat timer was in effect. Too much bullshit can come with it.

Jump over a car with an AS50 and you call others simple minded? DirtyCry is a WarZero moron. :blink: Obvious troll is obvious. If not, alternative makes me sick to my stomache. :facepalm:

"2 morons sitting on a bridge. The one moron fell off and the other didn't. Why?"

answer-- he was moron than the other moron. DirtyCry is the one that fell ^^^

You are exactly that simpel minded people i was talking about. Why not using somthing between no jumping and bunny hopping? Is your brain to small to get a solution? Some question to you:

When was the last time you've seen real combat footage with soldiers wich are not able to jump over a 30cm fence? When was the last time you've seen real combat footage with soldiers wich stop moving to climp over a 50cm high barrel? When was the last time you've seen real combat footage with soldiers not able to jumpe behinde cover?

You Sir are totaly fucked up in you head!

And whats the problem to lift a up a 12,5kg Weapon over a car? 12,5kg is fucking nohting for a well trained human like a guy who mangend to survial a dayz world!

Edited February 6, 2013 by DirtyCry

[DirtyCry 118]

Mr Dirty what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no beans, and may God have mercy on your soul.

You should really start using your brain.

One question: Are you able to jump?

[DirtyCry 118]

_{Everyone jumped on him (no pun intended), but in a way hes right. If we were limited to say 2-3 good jumps and then our "stamina bar" would be depleted, perhaps it would casue you to run slower or something like that. If jumping was enabled for reasonable situations but had deterrents for abuse I dont see what the problem would be.}

_{There have been so many times in arma and dayz where I thought, "hmm, If i could only jump a foot off the ground to get over/on this object it would save me a ton of trouble'}

_{Its unrealistic to say that we shouldnt be able to jump.}

Finaly a human being who is able to use his brain. Thank you.

There are so much ways to get jumping in the game without out bunny hopping danger or something like that but some ppl have a too small horizon to get this.

btw: sry for my bad english

Edited February 6, 2013 by DirtyCry

[d1rty 4]

Personally, I would like jumping added, but it's probably because I've been playing Counter-Strike for 10+ years.

But really, I think if you made the animation realistically slow and make sure that you can't spam jump as soon as you land, there will be no bunny hopping. Like, after you jump, add a 1-2 second delay before you can jump again.

[Sutinen 635]

Now, try to respond to this: What do you need jumping for?

[entspeak 374]

I like the SMK animations and the combat roll there is much more along the lines of what it should be. The wall climbing there is a good idea, but the animation looks off.

I'd like to see a hurdle jump instead of the current combat roll as a way to get over small fences and the like. A hurdle jump is not so much about height as it is about getting your legs over, so it's not like the jumping you have in CS. It wouldn't really help you out in a sniper situation unless they were going for your legs.

Edited February 6, 2013 by entspeak

[DirtyCry 118]

Now, try to respond to this: What do you need jumping for?

You played DayZ?

Jumping over fances, stones, walls, garbage, death wood, sandbags, holes, roof2roof and so much more.(All the stuff you can jump over in real equiped with a 20-50kg gear.)(Maybe the jumphigh depends on gear weight)

To jump fast behind cover or the other side of your coverobject.

We need jumping for more realism in game too.

Is there a need to add more to the list? I think no thats more as enough reasons to get jumping in the game!

Edited February 6, 2013 by DirtyCry

[janus0104 212]

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Vaulting over the walls with CBA and taking cover back to the wall is pretty awesome. I've been using this in SP for a year now.

That video was by far the most amazing ArmA 2 vid I ever saw! How are these movement options not added to this mod yet?

The key combos surely require some getting used to, but other than that, all of these look wonderful!