Thermal Binoculars

[carbine781 (DayZ) 131]

They got rid of the L85A2 AWS, the only thermal gun in the game. While it was overpowered, they should replace them with thermal binoculars.

The thermal part can't be toggled, and since you can't shoot with the thermal sight, it would only be ideal for spotters to really have it. Also, the binoculars will be really rare, and can probably only be found in military areas and crashed helicopters. Also, since the L85A2 AWS was mostly used for spotting, maybe we could nerf the binoculars so that the magnification isn't as far or something. Remember, these are binoculars, not rangefinders.

Im sorry if somebody else posted this, so please don't comment saying "somebody else posted this".

Edited January 18, 2013 by carbine781

[mdmonnik@deakin.edu.au 139]

Rangefinders have nightvision, isnt that enough lol?

[Xucphra 453]

The L85A2 AWS was "really rare" as well, and spotting was all most people used it for anyway. While it is a good rifle, the thermal vision itself was the problem. Removing the ability to fire through a thermal scope doesn't change anything. Snipers would still have their easy targeting advantage. The style of the device used is irrelevant to the larger issue.

Edited January 18, 2013 by Xucphra

[carbine781 (DayZ) 131]

Rangefinders have nightvision, isnt that enough lol?

Well, the thermal sight is more powerful than nightvision because it can detect heat. Basically, its like an X-ray through grass. Like i said, i want to make it really rare. Also, these aren't rangefinders, they are just normal binoculars. Edited January 18, 2013 by carbine781

[burritoman259 593]

You mean like these?

http://www.legear.com.au/thermal-imagers-australia-new-zealand-s/1198.htm

[carbine781 (DayZ) 131]

The L85A2 AWS was "really rare" as well, and spotting was all most people used it for anyway. While it is a good rifle, the thermal vision itself was the problem. Removing the ability to fire through a thermal scope doesn't change anything. Snipers would still have their easy targeting advantage. The style of the device used is irrelevant to the larger issue.

Maybe it can be nerfed. I'm thinking of lowering the magnification / thermal range?

[Xucphra 453]

Maybe it can be nerfed. I'm thinking of lowering the magnification / thermal range?

There's no point. You would have to nerf it so much it wouldn't be worth using. It's a cool toy, but it's just not a necessary thing for a game like DayZ.

[Michaelvoodoo25 3120]

too overpowered, No one would need these. Snipers and their spotters need wiping out also s othere would be no users for these either.

[enforcer1975 1111]

Maybe it can be nerfed. I'm thinking of lowering the magnification / thermal range?

That's the problem, if you reduce the magnification it will only make it a better rifle at close to medium ranges, like it is now you can't really use it close up, you need at least 200m to be able to use it properly when scoped.

And the AWS isn't that rare..normal server, 5 players, found 3 in less than1 hour at heli crashes... only because it has a 0.0000000001% spawn probability doesn't mean it will not be there. You either find nothing for days, maybe one or two, sometimes a lot.

[carbine781 (DayZ) 131]

You mean like these?

http://www.legear.co...land-s/1198.htm

Yes.

[TIC 1050]

The Thermal was the main problem, not the weapon. I have to disagree in bringing in anything that gives you an visual advantage, even rarity of an item wouldn't assist with balance.

I think nightvision is the only suitable item for helping you aid with vision for navigation.

[Rekli 995]

thermal suits.....they exist and the military uses them...

[CoolCain10 55]

The laser designator when n is tapped twice acts as thermal binoculars :)

[Mos1ey 6301]

No thermal, the L85 AWS was removed for a reason, lol. Why don't we just add a CoD UAV/compass and call it a day?

[-Gews- 7443]

Adding thermal anything would be terrible. I'm sure there are loads of multi-thousand-dollar thermal binoculars in countries like Chernarus where everyone is driving 25-year old Soviet cars and the largest city is the size of a small town.

Maybe it can be nerfed. I'm thinking of lowering the magnification / thermal range?

This is an even worse suggestion... any thermal added should have real-life magnification and capabilities. Nerfing things simply for gameplay reasons is bad - if they need to be nerfed, don't add them in the first place.

[enforcer1975 1111]

You mean like these?

http://www.legear.co...land-s/1198.htm

Well with around 8k USD every farmer in Chernarus should be able to afford one...it's really an important tool to see if someone is either trying to steal you crops or just having a nooky.

Back to sense: At that price i truly doubt it will be that common and we all know what "rare" in DayZ means....wait long enough and you flood the game with it.