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If the character delay can be implemented, I would say the 30 second post-logoff would be best. If you are legitimately done for the day/night and leaving the game, you should be in a relatively safe place (or at least not in combat). If not, I would prefer to see character death if log-off during combat is detected. Have fun on the coast on your next server ghosting-bitches. Given that it would be nice to see the system differentiate between abort/alt-f4 disconnects and actual drop of connection, but that would just allow abuse by bringing back the days of people pulling their ethernet cables to avoid death. Character delay on log-off ftw.

This is getting old. Its done, ban lifted, the Admins listened to me, it got straightened out. Whats the problem here? I wasnt planning on looking at this again but I had to. Look, maybe the Admins have too little power, or maybe too much. But regardless its all at their whim. Comes down to personality. Like adding cute little smile faces after the YOU BEEN BANNED FOR COMBAT LOGGING screen. Rage ban? " We're going to get the logs and report you for driving a hacked truck", not Im going to check the logs and see what happened...... conclusions jumped to are never reached. You get a Admin, like UBCS Ravin, he resets his server on time, lists everything, answers when you email him, and used to issue bans for people who dc'd in pvp. They, Dayz Devs, FORCED HIM TO STOP IT AND LIFT THE BANS. We went to UBCS because he could and would do it, ban you for being a dick and ghosting or dcing. Admins are people too, and not infallible. They, us 88, did the right thing in my case. And Austin, you were speaking for the Admins, because it was a long time before they got in contact with me. So yeah it was your mouthpiece I read the most. Speaking as you did, when you couldnt prove or disprove anything about me? Saying they were and they think and they said..... You couldnt just keep it real with me and say sorry dude, its all effed up, sorry you got blamed for shit you didnt do........ so yeah. All of you or any of you can make of this what you want. us 88, thanks for a few great days of play, had fun, sorry about the misunderstanding and thank you for listening to me and rectifying the situation on your server. Rest of you? It wasnt about you, or attacking admins or US88. SOOOOOO STFU AND GO PLAY COD.

I've decided to start banning players that do this (ghosting) trick. As an owner of a server I feel this exploitation is ban worthy. I have zero tolerance for this nonsense. Perma ban from my server to anyone who gets caught doing it. If you don't want to perma-die and lose your gear, feel free to find yourself another game. Don't be a pansy, take your death with honor and dignity.

The technical term is "ghosting." And it happens all the time. It's a bitch move, but you're a fool if you don't go into a firefight assuming the other person might try it.

I think the 30 second delay isn't that bad of a deal, most games have a timer anyway. And I think if you are bleeding, or being persued by zombies, or have fired your weapon, you shouldn't be able to log out, for 30 seconds anyway. Also making it so that you can't fire your weapon, until you've been in a server for a minute or two, would prevent the ghosting..

Wow...whole lotta mad in these responses. 110 kills is a 110 kills. Unless he's ghosting or hacking, that's an impressive feat and you sir, deserve my beans.

Come on guys, stop with the "put in a 10 second timer" suggestions. If you cared to just search a bit on this issue, you'd know the ARMA 2 engine doesn't support this, and that DayZ has already tried it in a former patch. The good thing is those making use of ALT+F4, are now being logged on the Hive server. But yes, it is a tiresome problem these days. I as well have seens lots of people ALT+F4'ing and even ghosting too, in order to loot their bodies. I'd even admit I've done it myself a few times, but then realised that it's really cheating, and completely destroys the immersiveness with the mod. Having a L85A2 in your group, helps a lot taking care of these pests though :) People stop this ALT+F4 and ghosting shit. If you can't handle permadeath, then I'd suggest playing Call of Duty or Battlefield instead. Clearly DayZ isn't for you.

yes and no . it would be ghosting if you did that but then it would not if you had log out there randomly as you had to log off and randomly log in on that server. But Yes if you walked up to green mountain and log out then log in on 1038 and yell Durka.

would this be considered ghosting? walking to green mountain, logging into green mountain on 1038, laying 6 satchel charges and screaming DURKA DURKA in the microphone?

I do indeed. But shutting down an entire server and limiting individuals gameplay? No. That is not right. It goes against many of the DayZ principles. I hate hackers as much as the next guy. But is this really trying to stop them? It does indeed seem ineffective. That is my BESTCASE situation. A bestcase possibility where I cover all my bases. Did you know if they banned someone when ghosting and only claimed they had a name, but no FRAPS proof DayZ staff WILL contact the admins on US1038 and have them unbanned because they don't want you banning people for that. It happened to me for banning people on my servers for disconnecting to avoid PVP. I don't like it in the slightest. Not one bit, but I am not here to complain or be bitter about the rules. I understand as an admin I abide by DayZ's rules, even if I don't like it.

Guy hacks the server often with someone on livestream ->http://www.twitch.tv...ter/b/326647775 livestream guy isn't the one doing it, but he's working with the guy that does, and I think the Admin is allowing it. they also use that "ghosting" BS.

As I've said, the only difference between the private hive server I play on and the hive servers is the source of the database. Everything else (with the exception of a much more robust anti-cheat on the private server) is exactly the same. Because everything else is the same, I can effectively comment on flaws in gameplay mechanics and bugs. You're right about Rocket being unable to see who is and isn't Alt+F4ing in our servers, as well as a few other key statistics, but we take care of the Alt+F4ing and ghosting in our servers by ensuring that those people never play on the server again. Also, because I DO play on hive servers occasionally, I am serving as a data point. I don't play exclusively on non-hive servers.

Doesn't matter. Rules state you cannot ban someone without reason. Those reasons are :Racism, Ghosting, Disconnecting in Gun Fight.......

Surely they've taken some countermeasures to ghosting, look at how many members they're getting O_o

The fact of the matter is, that locking the server, and shutting down the server are two totally different things. Locking the server would imply a select few players will get access to the server while the greater population does not get to play; allowing that group to secure spawns, loot, etc. As we have all already said 1038 has never locked their server. Now shutting the server down for one reason or another, be it because there is no admin on for an hour or two and there is a realistic fear of hackers, is not against the rules. I see no rule saying that the server needs to be online 24/7. The Persistent world is not being changed or hurt. That being because there are NO players on the world. No one is making changes, and all will be as it was when it comes back on. The only reason I could see someone crying about the fact of a few hours of downtime would be the ones causing these problems of hacking, ghosting, or griefing.

TO THE OP: DON'T group all private servers into one stereotyped category. I run a very good server and do what I can to adhere to the guidelines listed for official hive servers. The REASON I run a private server are as follows (and will change as the mod progresses from alpha and beyond): 1. Combat Logging - Needs no explanation as to why it is a valid reason for me to want a private hive (combined with # 2 it's even more annoying) 2. Ghosting or where they reposition themselves by changing servers, moving, then rejoining the server you are in but now they are behind you -Again, no explanation needed for that one 3. I can ban Griefers, hackers, abusive players that are making it miserable for other players to enjoy the game - I got messaged on my teamspeak server that there was someone with a rocket launcher near cherno blowing up people as they fresh spawned ALSO, - In my MOTD it clearly specifies that Combat Logging results in instant death (If reported and I find out who it is and that it is a valid complaint, I kill them via database hive entry by setting them to dead) -How can I tell if they combat logged, well, because : finding their player information in the hive I can see information like this or similar (this is an example) [false,true,false,true,true,false,true,6506.39,[\"aimpoint\",\"relbow\",\"LeftFoot\",\"neck\"] [character information etc............][blood..][where and how are they hurt..................] And then I can pretty much say they were combat logging Official Admins don't have access to this kind of information and are at a loss to prevent players being unfair. I spend most of my game day Administrating my server, my game time has dwindled drastically as my player base increased since I spend most of my time getting more and more acquainted with the Day Z mod and its hive MySQL database so that I can be that much more effective admin. Not forgetting to mention that I review hours of server console logs to find and fix any issues. I also go through the hive database and remove old unused player data and suspicious player data.

This is DayZ rewarding me for never ghosting, server hopping, or item duping... I've had some of these weapons in past lives... But never all of them... At the same time, in one life...

I thought a good way to stop ghosting might be to give servers a 15-20 minute "memory" of every player who leaves, and their last location. If a player rejoins within that deadline and their location from the hive doesnt match the server record then that player is forced to spawn in that last known location, which is then updated back to the hive again. After the deadline has passed the record of the player is deleted.

Hello. Ive got banned today, i killed one of their members earlier that day and said i were coming back as a joke. On my way to the airfield after a relog to pee, i suddently get a ban right up my ass for "server ghosting" I got a screenshot of the ban: http://www.xaionara.net/ban.jpg I never ghosted, i never even switched server because i went to fucking pee when i logged out and back in, i was in the lobby the entire time of this event. What proof does these guys have even against me? I would like to hear their story about this, or the ban removed. (You aint even allowed to ban for this if im right?) If you are not allowed to ban for ghosting, i would like to see this server blacklisted. Actually found the server rules here: http://dayzmod.com/forum/index.php?/topic/1251-want-to-host-a-dayz-server-read-in-here/ "- Their are only two reasons why you, as a server owner, should ban a player on your server. Those two reasons are: Malicious talk, and racism. You may not ban a user for stealing your loot, killing you, spying on you, etc."

Austin, I really hope this ban is not a result of you and your crew misreporting and making assumptions regarding the events of this fight, and asking the server admin to issue this ban... that would be a real shame since Ghosthawx1 is a legit player and does not hack. Allow me to offer my point of view since *I* was the one who shot you from the west of your position with the L85. Please note: There is a glitch on that truck. When it takes damage, if both the driver and passenger get out and then back in, it auto-repairs itself. Same exact glitch that the bicycle has. This is not a hack, it is a bug; get the truck, run into something, and try it. You will be able to confirm this just as I have. He did check *for* the bodies but could not find them. Not sure why he could not find the bodies because myself and the other two of our folks had respawned on the coast and were working our way back north with fresh characters. I suspect that Ghosthawx was just being careful -- he was shot up pretty good and did not want to loiter in the area not knowing if your crew were still in the vicinity. However, I can confirm that someone found my body in the woods to the west but did not hide it because a few of my item were missing; thankfully I was able to recover most of my items. I understand the desire to ban cheaters, I too would like to see combat logging and ghosting eliminated. Sadly, I think you're taking a bit of a Vigilante position here, and falsely accusing a legit player. I urge you to reconsider your position on this. It's good to know that you speak for the admins, but I would really like to hear from them directly on this. I *know* that the server logs will clear him, but sadly Ghosthawx1 is being wrongly accused and banned without any due review. ..and yes... That was *my* first encounter with an L85 -- I did not know that I could zero the gun sights to range which is why I fired so many shots attempting to get the "Kentucky Windage" correct. Some of those shots were at the truck, not you and your crew as I was attempting to hit the tires. However, once Ghosthawx1 mentioned to me that I could adjust the gun sights, I zeroed them to 700m and dropped you in three shots -- you were making it difficult running around like that, and I admit that the final shot to the face was somewhat lucky on my part. Unfortunately, this is *exactly* what is happening here. Austin, obviously the server admins respect you and your crew as legit players since they issued a ban on another player solely on your report (I assume) without fully reviewing the logs. Sadly my friend, you are in error here. Here is the breakdown from my angle... We had five in our crew: three out in the Ute and an ATV scavenging helicopter crashes south of Pobeda dam, one (myself) scouting terrain for vehicle hiding spots, and one (Ghosthawx1) who had just returned back to our base with another of our crew (a sixth) from Berezino after seeing how badly it was glitched and calling off our planned raid over there. We have our own TS3 server, so Ghosthawx1 was still on TS with us even after he logged off US 88. Your crew ambushed our two crew driving the Ute up through the Pobeda damn area about two minutes after Ghosthawx1 logged off; he heard the call on TS for contact and the report of our two dying to your ambush. Cudos to you and your crew Austin, your ambush was well executed and our two crew were being stupid and deserved what they got driving around like that. However, Ghosthawx had logged out only 1km away from the ambush location and I was about 1.5km to your south west scouting terrain. Our guy on the ATV was within 4km, but he crashed the ATV trying to get up to the dam from your south -- he never made it to the subsequent fight. Ghosthawx1 logged back in and moved into a firing position to get eyes on you with rangefinders while I maneuvered around to your west. Ghosthawx1 got into a high position and began dropping rounds on your head, and your crew fought back and wounded him. While this was happening, I got into position to your west and began taking shots at your crew as well. Ghosthawx1 became critically wounded and had to retreat out for medical treatment - he also warned me of the likelihood that at least one of your shooters had an L85. I managed to drop you from a lucky shot, and one of your crew (the L85 guy?) nailed me with a head shot -- nice shooting. This was a legit encounter from my perspective that in no way warranted a player ban; your crew won the day -- good job, you have my respect. But please, refrain from the Vigilante approach and give the process of server admin review the chance to work. The ban of Ghosthawx1 is an invalid and completely unwarranted ban.

I was in a firefight earlier with these guys earlier, sniped one with a AS50. The rest of the group stayed on the server for a good five minutes, even though one was ghosting. So, they aren't total pussies.

Cosigned, these fuckers are incredelous. For those who see: [HB]Bear Grylls [HB]Dr Broski [HB]OG Loc Please tear them a new asshole, as they disconnect, reconnect, take a few shots at you in hopes of killing- if they miss, they'll disconnect again and repeat steps. They also server hope to a near location where you fired at them and return back to your server (Ghosting is the term I believe?) to shoot at you, and if you get the better hand, *le poof* - They'll disconnect.

Welcome to DE 443 DayZ Server thread! Hosted by www.mudda-clan.de Welcome to the server of our clan. If you expierience any issue feel free to post here. NO NAME CALLING please. Server Rules Feel free to play on our server as you like. Still, there are some rules you have to respect or take the consequences. Here are the details: cheating = perma ban + report to the devs hacking = perma ban + report to the devs ghosting = 1 day ban disconnecting whilst pvp = 7 days ban exploiting = 7 days ban Restarts Restarts will be performed manually. The server will remain locked for up to 5 minutes after a restart to ensure everythin will be loaded properly.

There should be a 1 minute delay of the character leaving the server - and - if it could be implemented someway, a non-legit close (esc, abort, disconnect) would result in a random spawn. This would also eliminate ghosting. For a legit close, just gray out the abort button for 15 seconds.

what do you mean by "ghosting"?, i feel like you are the noob here you cant even figure out how to change your username??