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Wow, a lot of personal attacks there Sandwichx, not a lot of backing to your argument. First off, I'd love to see a link to Rocket's DayZ rulebook, cause so far every time I've heard him talk about DayZ, he wants us to use the tools available to us and make our own experience. Now, hacking/scripting in a multilayer game is a pretty obvious broken rule, hence the existence of battleye (however ineffective it may be). Combat logging and ghosting is a direct multiplayer issue, meaning it's ruining the experience for another in a way not intended by game design. Loot dumping on the other hand, while potentially leading to unfair multiplayer, is still a direct single player exploit. The intentions can be vastly different. You can do it to get the best gear for PvP. You can go on a empty server and hoard all the weapons just to feel good. You can do it to get essentials when you've been extremely unlucky due to other quirks in the game. It's not as clean cut as scripting or combat exploits. Who knows, maybe they already removed this mechanic in standalone, but for right now, I don't see the problem with it considering the risk that is coupled with it, just to roll the dice of fate again. If you need a realistic comparison, consider it rummaging through the trash to find what wasn't on the surface. There are honestly bigger problems to deal with. But again, if you can dig up Rocket's rules, I'll be happy to change my mind.

Firstly, I mainly only do this when desperate for water or bandages and have been especially unlucky. 'Farming' is not much fun and it spoils immersion, and I'd rather be doing some sort of mission. In fact if you're farming a building, you're putting yourself in greater danger of being spotted and shot, so it's not necessarily an 'easy option'. Secondly, how do you determine the amount of time that is acceptable before going back to a building to see if there is anything new there? Are you suggesting that no-one should ever go back into a building during the same server session? If you arbitrarily say something like one or two hours, aren't you doing the same thing as me except just waiting longer? Why would you go back into a building at all unless you were hoping for new spawn items? What difference does it make if it's you who clears a building or someone else? Lastly, doing a bit of farming is in the same category as pitching your tent underwater. It doesn't affect anyone else directly, unlike ghosting and combat logging. If you were meant to just accept whatever was in a building when you got there, then the game would be designed that way - loot wouldn't respawn at all until a server restart (like the heli crash sites).

Combat logging and ghosting f**kin disgusts me to be quite honest.

It's like this: US servers are hacked day in day out. if there's one player on a server, a hacker will eventually come in to troll/kill him (no one dare deny since this has happened to me). on european and other servers it isn't as bad, almost non existent actually. but yeah, like a post said, if it's a high population server odds are a hacker will drop by to insta kill all. my advice is to find a private hive server that's well monitored. I'm on http://dayzmod.com/forum/index.php?/topic/75927-dayz-byrgesen-gaming-community-blisshive-forums-3-servers-2xchernaruslingor-true-hardcore-settings-password/ no bug abuse, no ghosting, if hacking happens the hacker will be banned within the hour (max) and the server rolled to a time before all of the hacker's damage. was done.

SERVER HOSTING RULES HERE: http://dayzmod.com/forum/index.php?/topic/62195-server-hosting-rules/ 11. As a server admin you must not: You are not permitted to ban players for killing yourself or clan members. You are not permitted to shutdown your server when your killed. You are not permitted to shutdown your server when you lose a vehicle. You are not permitted to kick or ban for smacktalk. You are not permitted to ban for suspected cheats or exploits of a non-server-disruptive nature, including but not limited to ghosting, unverified cheating, duping and similar, UNLESS you have solid evidence, IE logs.13. You are permitted to kick or ban for ongoing severe hacking that is affecting players in a server-disruptive way. All kick or ban actions must be reported in the forums under section http://dayzmod.com/f...heat-reporting/I think most admins and legitimate players would agree that hacked in weapons are both rampant and a severe issue. If I catch you on my servers with them you'll be warned. Ignore the warning and you'll be kicked. Come back with them and you'll be banned. (With the caveat that I will not, and do not, ban people without log evidence that you have items you shouldn't.) Finally, from the same page of server hosting rules that was linked in the first line of my post: "NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE SAYS OR WHAT SERVICE PROVIDER YOUR [sic] WITH THESE ARE THE RULES PLEASE ABIDE BY THEM." [All caps is Dante's writing, not mine.] I don't care how many times someone says, "... but Rocket said ...," these ARE the rules, and until they change the rules it doesn't matter what anyone says. Admins can, will, and do ban people for them.

None, they get banned for ghosting and server hopping. Awsome :D Go register and find out as the mainpost says <_< A little effort pls mate hehe And GZ on 23k views guys. Still going strong even tho we "arent here" anymore hehe

You are not permitted to ban for suspected cheats or exploits of a non-server-disruptive nature, including but not limited to ghosting, unverified cheating, duping and similar, UNLESS you have solid evidence, IE logs.You're welcome.

The only reason it's hard to kill these idiots on Dobry or the Cherno silos is because of combat logging and ghosting. The only time any of these snipers actually get a FRH on me is if I'm in a highly visible spot, stopped, and looting. If I'm moving I'll generally get away just fine while they pop off dozens of rounds at me. They're terrible shots. They aren't clever at all, because they use the same stupid spots all the time. They use AS50's and Ghillies as a crutch, since they need all the help they can get. I'm not mad when these guys kill me. Usually it takes them forever, and at that point I'm already laughing at their ineptitude. If the 15th shot is the one that hits me, it's luck and not skill. Luckily not all snipers are like this. It's just that the ones you hear about or see the effects of are the Elektro/Cherno campers. They aren't a fair representation of all snipers in the game. My 3 week old character died the other day. It happened because the other player outsmarted me. Fair kill, and I really hope he got the good stuff I was carrying. Looking back on it, I died because I overlooked something that should have been obvious, but apparently I got complacent. I would love to see the combat logging AS50 BushWookies live on medium/high pop servers without an AS50 or a Ghillie for several weeks, while actively searching for kills, and then actually looting them. They either can't, or won't. So anyone who kills them has my beans.

Back to topic: I understand that for a lot of people, the fun of this game lies in the thrill of PvP. But as far as I'm concerned, there's no thrill in being insta-killed by a ghillied-up sniper in the hills. I hate that sniper rifles are so easy to use and so damn effective in this game (I recently obtained a DMR and after spending only 30 minutes learning the ropes, I could lead a headshot on a sprinting zombie from 300m away - it simply should not be that easy), and that, thanks to hackers, the AS50 is so damn common on servers. For me, PvP is about someone in the distance who's after your equipment opening fire on you with an automatic weapon, you running and diving for the nearest cover, possibly wounded and making a snap decision - do I shoot back, or do I run and hide? For me, that's the essence of a survival game. I remember my days as a newbie, running around the coast looking for supplies. At first, my main cause of death was zombies as I didn't know how to deal with them, but after that, sniper bullets became my leading cause of death. Some of my most intense and fun showdowns with hordes of zombies and other players were abruptly ended by a sniper shot to the face. Someone sees you having fun and decides you don't deserve to have fun, so they shoot you. In my book, that's griefing. Yes, it did ruin my game experience for a while. I suspect that many new players still shake their heads as to why they keep getting instakilled on the south coast. Also, I don't consider 'ghosting' a cheat. It's an abuse of game mechanics, and a complete dick move, but it's not a cheat. As for playing on low pop servers, it's a necessity with all the snipers around.

ghosting is cheating, just like hoarding, disconnecting, tent duping, humanity farming, server hopping, playing on low population servers, loot cycling, vehicle repairing, water filling, animal hunting and pretty much everything that doesn't involve shooting and killing players in a deathmatch mode. at least that's the rabble rabble rabble I constantly hear on the dayz communities

how can something be described as "cheating" in a game with no rules, other than those coded into the game and its mechanics? ghosting is perfectly legit, so long as you're not using a hack. any sniper who sits around and doesn't check his 6 constantly for people sneaking up on him is an idiot, and deserves to get shot either by someone ghosting (which i agree, while not cheating, is a pretty dickish thing to do) or just being really sneaky. the flipside is that ghosting is a difficult thing to time right, and logging in leaves you potentially vulnerable for a few seconds. i wouldn't try it just to get a sniper.

We have regular firefights with other clans on our home server LU425 , server is admined by clan members , no Alt+F4 or ghosting but expect heavy resistance

I'm sorry but ghosting in behind someone is cheating and is not cool

Yea. I have to agree here. I deal with hackers mentally better then them folks that play one handed in the hills with a sniper rifle getting hard over head shots for not reason then to just cap a bitch. As of now half the hackers that have killed me have given me my shit back so...the only real grudge I hold is those ghosting bastards and guys the put one in people's dome then never go check the body.

Since you're going on at length about using other game profiles and what not I'll just leave this here. Amazing how we killed a Jester that wasn't you, but you're the only Jester in my player database, you're also the only one with a current Hive record on the private hive we use. Sure to be more though soon enough. Far as adversaries, we'd love some, that whole deal on the North Hill was really cool til you and your friend combat logged because you knew you were pinned. I let it slide because even though I state I ban combat loggers, we have been trying to give people a break so people would take up residence on the server and...yanno, be legitimate adversaries. Base building is part of what the game is about, working together as survivors to defend whats ours. We actually recruited a guy that came to the factory and laid down his weapons because he saw there were more of us than there were of him. The move was a simple tactical call, and as stated I managed the entire thing, you were not on the server, not as Jester, not on a different game profile either cause...as the DB log there shows you haven't used one on 503. So the whole situation of you seeing the V3S and "one other vehicle" heading west completely falls flat. Especially since there were 5 total vehicles on that run, and none of them were traveling together. The final total vehicle count was two UAZ's, the SUV, one Hilux Truck (that you had not destroyed) and the V3S. Some went completely off road, none traveled together, there was no point where you would have "observed" the vehicles together as you stated and, also, as stated, you were not on the server during the move. Had you been tagged on the server with the same GUID with a different name you'd be right there in the database. Overall this entire argument is rather pointless. You can red text my statements if you like and say "thats not me, it wasn't me", but you've been on and off 503 for well over a week and we've given you plenty of opportunities to be a legitimate adversary. Ghosting on 525 to get in position on 503 is enough for me to call it quits in regards to giving you further opportunities. There are no AS50_TWS's on 503, DayZ Anti-Hax 0.7 actually parses for non-standard weapons and removes them. BTW, so whatever that guy's added to your post is hogwash. You should know as well as anyone that we only have TWO AS50's, one that was in the V3S you stole, and now the other that we removed from the van you left behind the base when you took the truck. And they're just plain AS50's, we have a few M107's though...don't use them, but someone brought them in from a chopper crash. Oh and truck inventory....yes there were things removed from it. 4 sets of NVG's that were stored on the truck were no longer on it. 4 sets of NVGs were in the tents on 525. Including quite a few other items that were incredibly similar to our previous stockpile at the factory. So if it wasn't you hauling the gear out, perhaps someone got in there and stole the NVGs and just happened to take them to the EXACT same spot you took the V3S to somewhere in the 30 minutes between me logging off and you logging on. Oh and that Exlie clan isn't us, btw. Not sure why you even linked those. Kwark was a problem causer we had on 401, video evidence wasn't enough apparently, just got a lot of "wasn't me, that wasn't us" from that too. Only place I screwed up was with the christian clan that hit us, but we thought they had teleported in because of a screwy read on positional data in the RPT files, because they started out attacking from the hill, then suddenly there were people in the factory too, they ghosted in, legitimate on the public hive, but doesn't mean I like it, and its part of the reason we went private.

Hacking is cowardly. Alt-F4 is cowardly. Ghosting is cowardly. Running like a scared little dog with its tail between its legs is not cowardly. I do it to avoid killing anyone. Trusting someone regardless of the risk is not cowardly. I do it to avoid killing anyone. I do it because one good DayZ narrative experience is worth all the bad ones. But staying and fighting a fight you can't win? That doesn't make you brave. It makes you a bad tactical planner.

SInce there is so much here , I'll address everything in red, and put the excepts of what I actually said in blue. BTW, sorry about your stockpile of stuff on 525. Just so happens that we did a little elementary logic and figured that if you'd parked our V3S there, there must have been a reason for it, and sure enough there was. Dude, if you got your truck back, you should know that nothing was removed from it, if you "magically" found more stuff on 525, congrats. ..since you are now saying that you moved stuff from 525 to 503, what exactly am I banned for? Everything that was on that truck, was still on the truck. Thankfully we retrieved several of the high value items you'd stolen from us, which I was happy you'd taken the time to store them because they're pretty rare spawns and all, and even working the airfield and all the best we've come up with for those NVG's is 4 sets so far. Lot of our people are running around blind at night and as you might have noticed when you were vulturing through our supplies we only had a few L85's and definitely not enough NV Goggles to go around.So...yeah, a guy that plays with us that isn't in Exile did combat log on you, and yeah, I banned you, cause to be frank I'm tired of not getting a straight fight out of anyone at this game. SO wait, you want a fair fight, but instead of shooting me, you banned me, AFTER your buddy combat logs under fire? You claimed you saw me and did not "pull the trigger"... why? Anyways we're moving the base again when I decide to bring the server back up. It'll be on the Cherno docks, right there in the warehouse, until people like you and DayZ Navigator are no longer a factor, there is no point in trying to "survive" anywhere. So we might as well be right down on the coast so we can kill you people as you come in the door, rather than what we have been doing for the last month, which was staying north of the major towns and the coast and doing our best to try to let the server population grow naturally.Anyways, take care. Its my server and its my rules and it was my call that you're a gutless map hack using ghoster, and I don't have to put up with people like you on my server. So I didn't. I understand that there are a LOT of cheaters out there, but I think the majority of what we are arguing about is based on perception rather than facts. Each of us only sees our side when in the game, and a lot of it is left up to interpretation.. I'll offer you a compromise. You unban me, I will give you all day today and tonight to move your base wherever you like. I promise never to log onto 525 again, nor I will never log onto ANY Dallas server again. I THINK that will ensure that I can never be accused of ghosting again. If there are other servers out there that are connected to your hive, send me a PM with that list so we are not sharing out more info to for people to use to ghost you. If you ever see me on one of those servers, please post it here and ban me, I will not argue the point at all. In addition, I want to state that I never have, nor will I ever log out under fire. There are times where in real life I have to leave the server, and times that I may not be on for very long periods of time, but as a habit from RL, I ALWAYS egress away from an AO before I log out, it's just the smart thing to do... I kind of like the ideas you guys have about building bases, but I figured that you needed an adversary or two to keep things interesting. What is the point of hoarding/guarding all that stuf, if you ban everyone that tries to engage you.Cya.

Hi, I run US 503. My MOTD says we don't answer to anyone, especially you. But I'm a nice guy so I'll give you an answer. As the poster above you indicates, I banned you for usage of DayZ Navigator. You did not at any time "observe" us moving the V3S west on the 24th, and I can state why. First, some backstory: On the 22nd you and one other individual attacked the Factory from the North Hill, you didn't kill anyone, and once fire was being returned and there were defenders moving up the hill to engage you at closer range while over watch positions had you pinned down, both of you combat logged within 20 seconds of each other. I'm not going to drag your friends name into this but I was there and I watched the entire thing go down...I let it slide...once, cause I figured, alright these guys have been playing on the server and I'll give them a chance. On the day of the 23rd the server appeared to be down due to a node error, it had no activity at all that day except me and it took me a lot of work arounds to even get to the lobby, once we got the node issue sorted out the server was back up. On the morning of the 24th, you waited until members of the server known to you as the survival group at the factory were not on the server. You joined the server at 05:56AM, after going through the tents and grabbing some grenades and an M249 and several ammo belts, you then began to destroy vehicles in the base including 1 civilian Ural, and a White Hilux truck. Fair game, no problem, you were attempting to destroy a third vehicle when you were legally killed by Epo, a member of Exile. After your player_death event, the log data shows you disconnecting at 06:07AM. After the event at 10:32AM I logged in and was appraised of the situation. I decided at that time due to the material loss we'd taken, that it was time to move elsewhere. The original plan was to move the two UAZ we had left and the SUV (which is a legal spawn on Bliss Hive btw) to a new location. One of our members down on the coast came across the V3S while we were in the process of emptying our tents and packing, so we picked that up. Now heres where the hole in your story begins. We had the V3S and had our move completed before 4:00PM Server time, there was only one unknown on the server during the move, it was not you or your friend. The entire move was completed by 14:00 hours...and you might notice...right here...that your connections on the 24th show you on the server at 05:56, disconnecting at 06:07 after being shot dead, and then...your next log entry on the server shows you logging in at 16:41(4:41PM), long after the move had been completed. Simple facts are, you couldn't have seen a V3S because we didn't have a V3S at the factory when we killed you, and you didn't know we had one because you weren't on the server the whole day after you were killed while attempting to take down our entire vehicle base. The timestamps are right there. You couldn't have "seen" the V3S moving west because you WERE NOT THERE when the V3S was moving west. Nobody witnessed the V3S moving anywhere. As the only other hostile on the server had logged off and it was just our usual group by the time we passed through Novy Sobor with said V3S. So...stands to reason theres only one way you could have known we had a V3S and that we took it west and I've already explained what that reason was. Now heres a fun fact. Later that night, you turn up in Vybor at 0111, as the log shows, you were spotted there by someone we had up there on salvage duty, we immediately sent out a foot team to pen you in and put you down, I personally wasn't sure why you'd ended up in Vybor at all, you'd been on the server on and off since being killed at the Factory, maybe you'd already gone back to the factory and figured out we'd moved by then...who knows, but for some reason you're in Vybor, We sent in 5 people to take you down, and just as we're closing in on your position, you log out. Could be coincidence, so I let that one go. I found it odd that you all seemed to have followed us to the west side of a very large map but hey, things happen right? Anyways, I was up til 05:00 on the 25th, I did a server restart at 05:00 approximately because the server had been up for 24 hours, I checked our defenses, saved all our stuff and logged off, figuring that one of our euro time scale players would log on soon enough and all will be well. You log on at 05:32 approximately 30 minutes after I went to bed, potentially having noticed the server is empty. And make your way down from Vybor to the Putoshka base, and if you took down that southern set of defenses in a "minute" I'm impressed, I used the last of my cat wire and tank traps buttoning up that position as best I could (we only had 20 or so of each left) and that portion had at least 8 sets of cat wire down and 6 tank traps...but hey, you're a skilled guy obviously. I should also mention that you made the run from Vybor in a S1203 Van, got into the base, got the V3S out and parked it 7 klicks north of its position at base, as far north on the map as you could go without it going out of bounds, all in just over 30 minutes....obviously you're a very skilled guy. And you come inside the warehouse there, and take a V3S you couldn't have possibly known we had, in fact, couldn't have possibly known any of the vehicles were there at all because they were inside the warehouse and not on open view....yes there was a bus out there, yes there was a tractor outside the walls. But for some reason, you were very sure, obviously, according to your own original account in the first post, there was a V3S that you couldn't have possibly ever seen inside that warehouse. (christ we didn't even know it had spawned, Bliss Hive 6 had a bug where the V3S wouldn't spawn at all, we'd only update to Bliss Hive 7 that morning which fixed the V3S spawn and it turned up in the usual place.) And "being a cool guy" you only stole the V3S, cause I guess destroying the Ural the day before had tired you out and made you feel dirty inside. And you carted the V3S to 022001, how did we find it? Well I'll tell you how, we spent all day driving around looking for it cause it still had most of our critical supplies on it. We'd been cycling loot spawns in Putoshka and Vybor for tents most of the previous evening and only came up with 10 of them in a whole overnight process of attempting to build back up from losing our storage at the factory. Finally around 1500 CST, after driving as far north on the western highway as a our search team could, they turned around to head back and one of them spotted the V3S up in the trees. Now heres where things get more fun. At 16:41 on the 25th you log in at 022001, just as you said, to find the V3S gone. You immediately log out and go to US 525...why is that? Oh well I think we know why. To check your camp that you were going to ghost all our gear over to, 525 being on the same shared private hive and all that. Notice the timestamps afterwards. You log back on to 525 for 3 minutes starting at 19:33. You then log into 503 at 19:37 stay for three minutes and log out. You then log in to US 525 at 19:41 and spend 14 minutes on US 525 doing...who knows what, probably running like crazy to Putoshka, but you must have been pretty fast to come from 022001 in 14 minutes, but hell I'll even give you that (we checked quite extensively for vehicles in Putoshka on 525, but hey maybe there was a car hidden way out in the trees..who knows.), even though it completely debunks your story about how you actually made your way down to Putoshka while on 503 and that touching little statement about having to log off to do something with your daughter...but the timestamps don't seem to agree with your heroic retelling of your skillfull and valiant attack on a bunch of evil clan members. You then log in to 503 at 19:57 and spend a little time getting into position. I happen to be on the server at the time, Bloodwraith is up on the oil tank doing overwatch and notices some odd zombie activity to the south, so I flank south west and see that its you, back to the scene of the crime and shooting at people. Bloodwraith did combat log and I had a long talk with him about it afterwards...cause lord knows I've died to enough hackers in the last several months that I figured he could at least take a bullet. But after weighing all the stuff in my head, about how you combat logged on us on the 22nd, how you were stalking our camps when nobody was around and how you miraculously just seemed to know that a vehicle you couldn't have ever seen us with because you weren't ever on the server at the times that we had it after we killed you at the factory, had moved 8 klicks across the map to an entirely different location....instead of pulling my guns trigger, I pulled the ban trigger. Now here are my reasons 1.) You are using DayZ Navigator, the only way you could have spotted a V3S where it was was by doing so, you were never on the server, as the hive log shows, during the time the V3S was mobile, so you did not "spot" it moving west. You knew exactly where the camp was, out of ANYWHERE else we could have gone, less than 12 hours after we'd picked up and moved. 2.) You had combat logged on us previously when we had the amount of people to deal with you, and only returned to our camps when there was very little chance of you meeting any resistance. 3.) You were ghosting between US 503 and US 525 and one of the reasons we went to a private hive was to get away from ghosting jackasses that won't fight fair. You ghosted from 022001 on 525, to position south of Putoshka and then logged to 503 to get a "better vantage". Thats why I banned you. Those are my reasons, that is my evidence. And to be honest I don't have to defend my decisions cause....well I don't, but I'm defending them nonetheless. Bloodwraith, though, for your information, is not a member of Exile, he is a member of a clan called Saints. And he has no administrative access to the 503 server. So...he didn't ban you for shooting him. I banned you because I was getting tired of your "ha ha I'm a squirrely bastard" crap and after you'd found our new camp so fast I knew for sure you weren't playing straight. BTW, sorry about your stockpile of stuff on 525. Just so happens that we did a little elementary logic and figured that if you'd parked our V3S at 022001 on our server, there must have been a reason for you continually logging over to 525, there must have been a reason for it, and sure enough there was. Thankfully we retrieved several of the high value items you'd stolen from us, which I was happy you'd taken the time to store them because they're pretty rare spawns and all, and even working the airfield and all the best we've come up with for those NVG's is 4 sets so far. Lot of our people are running around blind at night and as you might have noticed when you were vulturing through our supplies we only had a few L85's and definitely not enough NV Goggles to go around. So...yeah, a guy that plays with us that isn't in Exile did combat log on you, and yeah, I banned you, cause to be frank I'm tired of not getting a straight fight out of anyone at this game. Anyways we're moving the base again when I decide to bring the server back up. It'll be on the Cherno docks, right there in the warehouse, until people like you and DayZ Navigator are no longer a factor, there is no point in trying to "survive" anywhere. So we might as well be right down on the coast so we can kill you people as you come in the door, rather than what we have been doing for the last month, which was staying north of the major towns and the coast and doing our best to try to let the server population grow naturally. Anyways, take care. Its my server and its my rules and it was my call that you're a gutless map hack using ghoster, and I don't have to put up with people like you on my server. So I didn't. Cya. Edited to add a copy of your original post in case you edit it to try to change your story around, champ.

You're wrong. Admins never read the server rules. Most admins make up rules. It doesn't you're allowed to ban people for it nor against it. Nor is it really cheating as the weapons are easily found on other players + they get turned to makarovs every so often. So it is their choice if they want it or not. Besides i've been servers that remove your whole gear if you have a hacked in weapon, removing gear should be considered hacking. You are not permitted to ban for suspected cheats or exploits of a non-server-disruptive nature, including but not limited to ghosting, unverified cheating, duping and similar, UNLESS you have solid evidence, IE logs. And seeing a hacked in weapon in the logs is NOT proof, as it is not cheating not matter what you say. you are not allowed to ban them and even so you would need to post the proof in the forums and not take justice in your own hands. Because admin's judgement are more emotional than objective.

Its bad.. both hopping and ghosting. logout timer for altf4/abort/taskkill(30second) + "cooldown" before entering any server again for server hopping(10minutes) + previous server remembering your logout location for set amount of time for ghosting(30minutes) Woudnt be too hard to implement in SA What if even when you login back to same server after that 30 minutes and you are trying to spawn somewhere within 1500m radius of your logout point you would still spawn to that point where you logged out. Ghosting would still be possible but too much of work...run 1500m away, logout and wait 10minutes cooldown, login other server, run back ~1500m logout, wait 20minutes(10minutes cooldown+ 10mins what is left of the server location save feature) and log in.. Would drastically reduce ghosting and server hopping. 10 minutes + login/out process to server hop 30 minutes + running and login/out process to ghost..

Rule 11 of Server Hosting "You are not permitted to ban for suspected cheats or exploits of a non-server-disruptive nature, including but not limited to ghosting, unverified cheating, duping and similar, UNLESS you have solid evidence, IE logs."

I'll take this to DayZmod forums if I have to. "11. As a server admin you must not: You are not permitted to ban players for killing yourself or clan members. You are not permitted to shutdown your server when your killed. You are not permitted to shutdown your server when you lose a vehicle. You are not permitted to kick or ban for smacktalk. You are not permitted to ban for suspected cheats or exploits of a non-server-disruptive nature, including but not limited to ghosting, unverified cheating, duping and similar, UNLESS you have solid evidence, IE logs. 12. You are permitted to kick or ban for hate speech, including racism and homophobia. All kick or ban actions must be reported in the forums under section http://dayzmod.com/f...heat-reporting/ 13. You are permitted to kick or ban for ongoing severe hacking that is affecting players in a server-disruptive way. All kick or ban actions must be reported in the forums under section http://dayzmod.com/f...heat-reporting/ " - All information found here http://dayzmod.com/forum/index.php?/topic/62195-server-hosting-rules/ I'm sure you're well aware cm. that even if I was "smack talking" you're not allowed to ban. If you're regarding the incident where I used "scripts" as a form of changing my GUID, I didn't. I have 2 steam accounts bud. Now, I'm requesting that you have solid evidence and that you email me that solid evidence that I've been cheating on your servers. Like I said, I've never downloaded, or used or even searched for scripts/hacks for ArmA2 or DayZ. I'm trying to be civil about this, but you're being a complete fuckwit about the whole situation. So, please. Make this easier for everyone. Show me the log where I cheated for using these scripts. Or outline specifically what I did. Again, my information for the request is: Exact player name: Andrew GUID: fc5d1488ef254402ee24023e52e8b1f7 Servers you are banned from: All Ban reason: Scripts What cm. has said: Caught scripting with the same IP on another GUID, thus you have been banned on both. What lead me to believe that I was unbanned: removed The rough estimate of time for being banned is: [15/09/2012 4:57:45 AM] Saturday 15th September, 2012, 4:57 AM

Some of the servers I play on (that are connected to the hive) have a feature (or a bug, dunno): when you log in, you fall unconscious for about 3-5 minutes. It has its drawbacks (such as - you have to log out only in really safe places. either in a forest or in a building - so that no zeds chew you down), but this actually effectively prevents ghosting and al+f4'ing. Also, a lot less cheaters on these servers. Yes, it is frustrating. Yes, it is inconvenient. Yes, it does not take any circumstances into account (omg, my internet just dropped and im in the middle of cherno!). But, hell. It works! :P Well, you still can ghost-walk into a wired fire station to get some loot... but logging in to a place full of armed people being unconscious will be the quickest trip to the beach. Personally i would have made it less than 5min blackout. Around 1 min is enough IMO. But still - a nice feature.

what you describe is ghosting.. ghosting could be prevented by having servers remember your position for 15 minutes.. so if you leave server1, go to server2 to reposition and return to server1 in under 15 minutes you will spawn where you left server1 instead of where you repositioned to on server2.. but I have no idea if it would even be possible to implement server hopping as I understand it is when you are logging into multitude of servers while at the same spot looking for rare loot or people to kill (barracks, sniper nest near high pop area, etc.) that being said the ability to change servers while keeping your loot and position is good IMO but it needs some mechanic to prevent these exploits

I do like the idea of being able to clear an area. Once an area is clear, zombies could respawn not inside the "safe" zone but just outside it, surrounding the walls or whatever. However i think we need a shitload more zombies for this to work, otherwise clearing an area would be too easy. They could also eventually break through by sheer weight of numbers. You also have the problem of ghosting where enemy players could disrupt this safe zone by spawning in behind you from another server.