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That's what I've been able to come up. We're able to canvas more of the map simultaneously, get access to more parts with less aggravation, et cetera. There's no reason why we shouldn't, logically, be the ones owning 80% of the vehicles on the server. Where a lot of people see vehicle and loot hoarding, I see our hours of hard work. We worked just as hard as you would've had to for the exact same prize. I don't see why we're less justified to own a piece of hardware just because we have other vehicles. We spent our time and effort to repair them or take them from others. Hell, if I had to really say, it's the people who raid empty camps who are the ones who don't deserve the vehicles. But that's not only nitpicking on a non-issue, but also not the point of this thread. I definitely would like to see some way to facilitate group play. But not only that, I want a way to facilitate the communication from outside the group, into the group. As of right now, we have the Survivors HQ, which I can proudly say is where I met the small group I travel with right now. But I would like to see something in-game that would allow others to communicate more safely. I've been saying it for nearly two months now, but 80 meters isn't enough when even the Makarov, pretty much the shittiest gun in the mod, can outclass that. We need a way to communicate over larger expanses. Whether it be bulletin boards, or even some way of setting up small settlements or hamlets (something I would really love to see in end-game if the mod breaks off into its own large-scale project) that survivors can wander into and trade in. As of right now, we can't really facilitate coop, because there's no stable way of communication. If I really had to throw a guess into the wind, I would honestly say that the removal of side chat and global chat 'created' this shoot-on-sight phenomenon we have nowadays. I haven't met a friendly survivor outside of my group since, and you really can't chance that the survivor you're waltzing up to won't gun you down unless you have literally nothing. I'm not asking for side and global to make a comeback, but I do, at least, feel like direct chat might need a boost to distance. And once radios come out, we might even have radio towers that people can occasionally pass by to catch an APB from a group or two looking to recruit. So, tl;dr: Creating groups/clans/guilds would be a smart first step towards cooperation. Also, the ability to talk to survivors over a much longer distance might help as well.

Yesterday i stopped the game in Berezino, i had a tent, 2 vehicles and lots of loot/gear... Today after the many, many downtimes i could join the server again but i've spawned at Kamenka!!! I saved the game in the North East and now i'm spawning at the South West, WTF!!!! I still have my gear at me but i don't have any food anymore, because i dropped my food in my tent! How to fix ?

And to the guy that asked about vehicles. I found one ATV today' date=' on it's original spawnpoint, don't know when it spawned, but I had to repair it and I took it home, back to my V3S Civilian truck, so yes, vehicles exist and they can still spawn (I think, the first time I checked this spawn). [/quote'] Would you mind telling me what server this happens to be? I cannot find any vehicles on any server. We have checked a good 60 servers since last night.

Actually it won't despawn, it will just turn around and then be on all 4 wheels, I had this happen twice already. One time I had to wait many many hours until server got restarted because of new beta patch and the other time it took like 30 minutes (luckily) and server got restarted, then it was back up again and you could ride. Yes, I'm a bad driver with those, any little stone will make you fly. And to the guy that asked about vehicles. I found one ATV today, on it's original spawnpoint, don't know when it spawned, but I had to repair it and I took it home, back to my V3S Civilian truck, so yes, vehicles exist and they can still spawn (I think, the first time I checked this spawn).

a·buse 1. To use wrongly or improperly I don't believe they made a restart function to get your gear and vehicles back, thats why I call it abuse.

btw. its nice how you posted those screenshots Jemoeder. it cleary shows you how you abuse the refill ammo glitch lol. btw, a server restart which might has happend due to auto restart. doesn't give the SoH their gear back. nor does it give back the vehicles. also most of the gear SoH had is in our camp and not in SoH camp. so why would they be frustrated with only losing 3 cars lol. also auto restart doesn't give a warning, it just happends. btw. its funny to see 50% of all your posts are about hacking/abuse/cheating

You have to find the "sweet spot" much easier with smaller vehicles I found. With the army truck it can be a few seconds to find where to save it, with the white off road truck its just at the door and with the ATV it's instant. Found it okay on the hippy vehicle, just keep scrolling until you have it. Dang it, then it probably despawned. I hope it showed up where I found it so I can take it again, now that it's night it might be easy enough. Thanks for the reply though, atleast now I know

So here's the deal, I was chilling on De #32 and found a perfectly good helicopter, repaired the main rotor array and whoopdidoo the sucker took off to the sky with me piloting it. I park it way far far away from any cities, in broad daylight, nothing in the vecinity that could ruin the day. Log off for about 10-20 min and suddenly it's pitch black and my helicopter is no where to be found. With me trapped in the middle of nowhere ofcourse. The thing I do wish to ask, after several minutes trying different searches for "helictopers" "save" "vehicles" etc. etc. and didn't find a good answer to my question I state it here: Now I seriously doubt the vehicle got hijacked due to well, it doesn't get dark in the game in 10-20min from broad daylight right? So the real question should be, do vehicles get saved and how the hells do that work? I think mine despawned and spawned somewhere else due to what might have been a possible server reset. Any help is apprechiated, Thanks in advance.

Scrolled on it but never got that option' date=' only got the ones where I could take a seat in it and I had logged out and in about 5 minutes earlier and it was still there, strangly. Do you have to stand far away to see that option or how does it work? [/quote'] You have to find the "sweet spot" much easier with smaller vehicles I found. With the army truck it can be a few seconds to find where to save it, with the white off road truck its just at the door and with the ATV it's instant. Found it okay on the hippy vehicle, just keep scrolling until you have it.

I've been asked to add more details, so here I am. I'm a friend of "Jemoeder" (lol cobra) and today we raided a camp with a group of four friends. Cobra managed to get coordinates from a camp that appears to be the camp of [soH]. After we received the coordinates from cobra we calculated the distance from our position to their camp to decide if it's worth to check it out. We decided to go for it and ran 5 km to 020 977, we spotted 3 vehicles a V36, UAZ, BUS so we waited till we had enough courage to check the gear. 10-15 minutes later two of us with assault weapons checked the gear and moved 2 vehicles 1000 meters north. Nothing wrong there. Nelis managed to trick them on TeamSpeak by saying he found their camp by coincidence and was in need of food. They don't want their camp to get raided by one person if they can keep him friendly or perhaps they tried to trick him and had the intention to kill him after they meet up. Not knowing that Nelis had 3 friends with him waiting for them to drive over that hill. After a while a S1203 came over that hill and we opened fire with two snipers (AS50) and two players with a Mk 48. With the element of surprise and 4 bad ass weapons you understand that they had no chance against us. We killed them all and we ran to the body's. http://www.imagebam.com/image/d9fda1199919027 Now we come to the point where things get suspicious, while we were looting the body's we got the message "session lost". http://www.imagebam.com/image/9e85c7199919036 http://www.imagebam.com/image/a07270199918988 Ok... they might had problems with the server right ? Auto restart ? everything is possible so we carried on. We lost the gear that we looted from their body's so we moved on to the vehicles and moved everything we wanted to the truck and jeep. We went back to a safer place with the truck and jeep and before we approached our destination point we lost connection again, no biggy but for mysterious reasons tree of us spawned 5 km back to their camp. http://www.imagebam.com/image/9edf3f199919021 Nelis was close to the truck so we still had most of the gear. We are not sure if these restarts happened randomly but we know these kind of mysterious things happens more often in this server which is also the reason we decided to find another favorite server. We posting this information on the forum with the hope other players get aware and decide for them self if they take the risk to play in NL 4 the admin(s) were obviously frustrated, which is normal if your camp had got raided, but to question my friends legitimacy is a outrage http://www.imagebam.com/image/0bc5f4199918995

I think they wiped all vehicles, I'm missing 2 V3S, 4 ATVs, 2 PBXs. And they were all on different servers.

date: 18/6/12 - 19/6/12 between ~6pm (18th) and ~5am (19th) EST What happened: Artifacts coming form wire fence inside woods after moon rise. geometry stretching to infinity. Verified on multiple nvidia and AMD video cards including GTX 470, SLI 560TI, 6950, 7970, with a couple others I am not sure of. Shadows to low and HDR to low almost fixes it (not as bad as on high but still messed up). Where: In woods, GPS cords will be provided to Rocket/devs by PM only, Sorry but camp is huge and meta gaming is allowed. What I was doing: Just drove up to the tents. No lights on vehicles using NVG's, still happens with NVG's off and light source from vehicles , flash light, and flare were tested. Version: Beta 98325 with 1.7.1.1 full update all files re-downloaded fresh on 18/6/12. Server was on 1.7.1.1. Server: Again PM only. Spec's: 1100t BE AMD hex-core @ 4.2GHZ custom water cooling, ASUS M4A89TD PRO USB 3 MOBO, 16GB G.skill ripjaws x 1600 9.9.9.24 (maybe 28 cant remember), Sapphire Dual-X 7970 OC @ 1215mhz core 1740MHZ RAM, XFX pro 850 silver PSU, Western Digital caviar black 1TB 7200rpm, Intel ssd (shitty old one windows only on it), 40" Toshiba LED monitor, Creative soundblaster x-fi titanium ( no cover model ), Tritton ax720 headset via spdif and usb for chat. I only know a couple of the guys video cards they are listed above and I don't know what else they have in system. Timeline of events: ~6pm we finished setting up the new camp in the woods just a bit away from the old on in the field. Daylight on server no issues. Left camp to head to NWAF for rescue mission ~10 of us. After rescue mission we all went to Berezino for cars and parts with various stops along the way. after finding atv's and a tractor we went back to camp and about 50m away from camp we saw the artifacts coming out of the woods and bricks were shat by all. This is likely caused by the moon light and shadows from the trees. Turning shadows and HDR to low helps alot but it still happens. Cannot re test as the camp disappeared tents cars fence and all. It is worth noting that this is the first time the group has seen this issue and we have seen many wire fences at night but none in the woods, mostly just at a door or inside a building. Graphics settings used: Both resolutions at 1920x1080, all settings at max except AA which is set to high. FPS steady between 45-60 at all times.

Found 2 servers today with vehicles, one had an ural and a white pickup, the other had a ural. keep searching they are out there. Just a hint, the loot maps out there don't have all the spawn locations. There are some other locations with vehicles at them.

Which area exactly is considered offmap (for vehicles/tents) on the in-game map? Is it where the forest coloring ends outside of coods 0,0? I noticed a few of the interactive online maps seem to be missing a bit of the northern portion. So im a little confused about where it is safe to set up camp. Lost 2 parked, saved, vehicles, which im sure were on-map, after a suspicious "kicked message" from the server. When i had logged back in a few mins later the time of day had drastically changed to night and i couldn't seem to find the vehicles anywhere. This may be a server restarting issue, but i wanna make sure its not something I caused to happen myself as it seemed kinda strange and have noticed a bit of strange player/admin activity on the server lately.

cheers everyone! thanks for your tips. but yeah, i have no idea how to tackle zombie agro else than pressing disconnect sadly. i have so far found 3 vehicles, a backpack but yet not a single weapon. any idea how to handle such situations?

1. Log out timers. It should take a minimum of 20 to 30 seconds to safely log out of the game. If you lose connection your character should remain in game for the same duration. This would stop people from logging out during combat. 2. All weapons, equipment, vehicles should become server based. Each time you join a new server you should have to start again. This would effectively fix server hopping. 3. Zombies revisions. Two types. Rage Zombies and Horde Zombies. Rage zombies are basically what is in game now (fast and chase you down). Horde Zombies are slower but spawn in huge numbers and can spawn anywhere not just near towns. For example you spend too long in one place a zombie horde might spawn and surround you. Leaving you the choice of fighting your way out, trying to evade them or dieing. Also the horde should be attracted to abandoned vehicles. Once they find one they should attack the vehicle until it's destroyed. This would help balance people from whoring all the vehicles. This would also create an sense of urgency when ever you stop in a vehicle to not take to long. Adding to the overall tension in the game. 4. Unarmed Combat. - you should be able to punch or kick barring that use sticks, lead pipes, baseball bats, whiskey bottles. If you can pick it up you should be able to use it as a weapon. Sticks, baseball bats, whiskey bottles could all a limited life. For example a whiskey bottle would break after one or two hits during an encounter but you could still stab with whats left a few times. Then you would have to look for something else. Sticks may last a few zombies before breaking etc. 5. Crafting. Hybrid weapons created by merging equipment together. 2x4 with a nail threw it comes to mind. Gas with a whiskey jar makes a molotov cocktail. Pipe bombs made from empty cans/bottles and gun powered from shotgun shells. etc. etc. 6. Player made structures. It would great to see the game become even more sandboxy. Allowing players to construct bases/bunkers. Then fortify them with defenses (walls, fencing, gun placements?). Of course everything that could be created could be destroyed. This would add to the metagame by allowing bandit raiders to attack other players fortifications. 7. Destructible deployables. You should be able to destroy anything that you can deploy. (ie fencing, sandbags or tank traps) 8. Becoming a zombie. Basically once you are bitten enough times you would attack your friends or anyone nearby. It could be something that happens over time based on how many times you come in direct contact with the zombies. There is no cure for it besides not letting the zombies get close to you. 8. Servers run by game companies and not by clans. (see conflict of interest) 10. Better hacking protection.

As of now, clans are ruining some of the endgame experience for other players by hoarding all known vehicles in their ofmap camps

No, vehicles are server specific. So any vehicle you find on a server will only exist on that server. They don't transfer like your Character.

Cool, this is pretty much what I ended up doing. I set the tent up at a remote location no one should ever find, dumped some food in there and will return after a restart to see if my beans are still there. Luckily I have a good clan who can evac the AS50/M249 SAW I've been carrying to their vehicles.

Hey! Since the database cleanup today (03/07) it seems most vehicles dissapeard. Altough if i understand the thread regarding the matter (http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=26982) correctly they should reappear when the server is restarted. Is this something that is possible to do soon-ish? :angel:

My english is not my primary talk. So we are clear on this side. Feedback: Temperature, blood, drink and water icons: They show way to much information what is going on. Animations for everthing is alreays ingame and woud not need any icons from the start. Instead: - Finding termometer for temperature control will enable temperature icon. - Finding water bottle will enable the drink icon. - Finding food woud enable food icon. - Finding the pen woud enable the blood icon. Hearing/seeing icons: These 2 icons coud be removed as they are sandbox breaker. You become to reliable on them and they make surving way to easy. Flashlight: Flashlight shoud attract zombies to the light (Oh... whats this, lemme go check it). Military flashlight on other hand woud attract zombies 50% less when there is light. Animals/wild animals: When you skin them, they remain the same. Skining an animal coud show carcas and atrract a zombie if near. Some of them coud be infected (bite mark cleary showen), so careles player coud get infected. There is to litle to no wild life. Meaning fox, wolf and bear which eat meat, coud have an infection and start attacking you. Zombie perma running after: This is a bit game breaking. Zombie coud follow you to a certain distance and then stop. Extreme noise from helicopter: Zombies from mayor (if heli lands in mayor citie) cities + near fields or small towns shoud be attracted to the sound of the heli. Same with other vehicles which make noise. Same if/when the tank will be added. Suggestions: Pets: I've seen at main menu that there is german shepard. This dog coud be used as your companion in pve/pvp. Dog: - He coud walk, crouch, walk silenty and bark. - When the dog dies, is injured, etc... Same positive/negative effects woud be aplied as by the player. Horses: Adding a horse, mule as mean of going around the world or they carry items. - When the horse dies, is injured, etc... Same positive/negative effects woud be aplied as by the player. Adding into game a hand train: http://group160.org/group160/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/hand-car.jpg Offcourse hand train woud had to be made from the parts found around the world. I will add more as i remember.

i think need in config add parametrs vehicles = off | on

Hopefully in Beta you abandon these resets of fences, tents, vehicles, so forth... It really KILLS the rpg element. So what someone left something out in the middle of nowhere. You have to find it somewhere. You just prefer it to be more predictable? No thank you. We found a Bus in the middle of the woods the other day near the NWAF with all kinds of gear in it. That was 100000000000% more exciting than find something in the same old spawn point. It was night. We had to stalk it. Camp it. Make sure no one was returning from a airfield run. (It's a bus ffs, we figured it was a pretty good size group of folks, more suspense). Traveled for refuel. Then spent 2 hours getting to a place we felt safe about. Hell if anything I would rather see the map sized x4 and tents be able to be removed by anyone. Please GOD don't let this turn into just another shooter.

So it's Alpha, yes I know. So in further patches, how will maintaining possessions be fixed? After the DDoS attack and the server restarts, everyone lost their tents and vehicles. Will this change in future patches? Will you be able to keep your stuff after server restarts?

Destroyed vehicles respawned using the simple method (will appear on next server restart). More advanced method will be used later (dynamic locations, inventory, vehicle types etc). Can I get a clearer explanation?