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So far I have had a some what good experience. It sucked gearing up and looting a heli-crash site only to put on camo clothing and have my inventory cleared. I do agree with others who mention that zombies pull from a far distance. I will be across a field and if I dont lay on my belly some will just start running at me... Good side is I have gotten really good at losing the zombies but just getting out of their line of sight for 5-10seconds. Are vehicles rare or are some servers still empty with out them? Crowbars are very weak! Some spawns on the coast give me instant zombie aggro. -thats is all... for now :P In all i love this mod and I will play with the issues listed above all day lol.

I gotta disagree on the fact that 1.7.1.5 was more stable. Most of the servers I've been playing on have been running great, no lag at all and almost no desync, now it's the other way around, tons of lag and terrible desync in vehicles etc... The only good thing is that zombies are back ingame with their increased spotting radius.

I'm sure it's been mentioned before, but here is the problem with DayZ as far as deathmatch goes. There is no benefit, only risk and extra hassle, to stay friendly with random players. 1. Using ingame voice is a poor solution since everyone in vicinity can hear you while you try to communicate with your newfound friend. 2. There is no option to Group up and thus have a Group-only communication with people you meet. 3. There is no friend lists so you can keep in touch with the people you meet, meaning you probably won't meet them again after you log out for the day. 4. The added risk of being shot in the back outweighs the usefulness of having another player around. Shooting someone and taking their loot is safer, easier, less hassle, has no consequences and generally just leaves you with more/improved loot, and consequently find yourself in a better position to survive. That is where the game is today. So what needs to change ? Do we need to limit the PvP? Add penalties? First thing they need to do is remove the kill score. It has a purpose in a deathmatch game, but no purpose in a survival game. Bad Company 2 and Battlefield 3 learned as well that making the #1 player the one that had highest SCORE and not K/D was the one worthy of placing at top of the list. DayZ need to do the same. Put player with longest gametime on current character at the top of the list, and not the SniperGER sitting in a bush 17 hours a day shooting unarmed newbies on the outskirts of Cherno. However, I believe the game needs more incentives that encourage teaming up rather than penalizing PvP. The only reason to team up right now is if you have the intention of creating a base camp and try to fix up vehicles and other things that require a team effort. Doing that usually means you are part of a premade team which is coordinating through mumble/TS3/Vent. So lets come up with some sensible ideas of what would make you decide NOT to shoot another player. First off, a proper ingame friend list, grouping and group-communication feature must be added. Without this in place then teaming with random players will never work. Here are some ideas (and yes, some of these would require further itemization): Each player spawns as a random profession. E.g. you might spawn as a doctor, which means you can heal someone's broken leg so they are able to walk (not run) without needing Morphine. Or a doctor could stop bleeding using trash items such as cloth, handkerchiefs and so on. Or you could spawn as an electrician, being able to repair stuff like flashlights, electrical heating elements and other stuff. Or mechanics that are able to fix certain things on vehicles without the need to have a toolbox, or scrap metals. Or a therapist/psychiatrist being able to reduce or remove shock and shaking from players, or reduce the black/white screen when low on health as a result of encouragement and whatnot. Pretty sure there are loads of other type professions people could randomely spawns as that would provide a benefit to a group or team. Large tents that can hold several players and provide shelter like houses do, but requires more than 1 player in order to set them up (in same way bloodbags work). Team-owned items, i.e. when someone deploys a tent they can decide to deploy it for themselves (so noone else can take it) or deploy it for team (provided a grouping feature is added) and everyone who is part of the team can take or move the tent (and other team-flagged items). In general, for people to bother teaming up there needs to be items, features and benefits that are worth the risk of having a random person tagging along. The whole reason the game is so deathmatch oriented is because there is EVERY advantage in shooting someone and just taking their loot and ZERO advantage (besides bloodbags and vehicle repair) in teaming up.

Could do something like, make it as rare as NVGs, make so zombies can set it off, and let players disable it without the need of tools. And now the kicker, 1 claymore per player. And they disappear after reset (make it like vehicles, so they reset unless you save them, and don't give the option to save them). So on server restart, the claymores go away. So due to the rarity, they aren't that great (lets even make them take two inventory slots instead of one) and can net you either 1 player kill or 1 zombie kill. No real griefing unless you have a clan or large group set them all up, and then they are wasted the next time the server is restarted unless you go back to retrieve them.

Yeah, the zombies sometimes glitch and manage to spot you from unreasonable distances. Had a friend spawn in, and while we were chatting about something a zombie ran some 200m down a road and over a hill to kill him on the beach. As for time, I didn't notice a major speed change. If anything, I felt that my ability to crawl at max speed let me progress faster than stop-and-go crouch walking. By bottlenecking I was referring to the equipment/tier bottlenecking. I don't think it's a bad thing in general, but I think the current noob-tier bottleneck is really hampering the social growth. It spurs noobs to fight against bandits, but disables the ability of the noobs to participate in the conflict so they get frustrated and quit. Mostly I worry that new content will only end up serving to fortify such barriers. Stabilizing this situation is currently within our means, but let's say we get together 12 people to obsessively clear Cherno, Elektro and Balota of bandits and use this as a recruiting method to bolster their ranks (because, shit, they don't wanna do this themselves all day. they got vehicles to hunt.) Say they get ten more people doing this. That's already half the server, and I think getting ten noobs on your side would, as you train them, inevitably pay off in terms of actual manpower. So suddenly there's a half-server superpower which everyone else on the server needs to either unify against or most likely crumple under. I think half the server could pretty easily hold the Balota/Komarovo area and have most all the equipment they could ever need. But then that's it. There's no real depth to this, it's a pretty binary situation. It's more or less Red vs Blu: DayZ. They'd be able to take and hold territory, but it's not like resources are limited enough to make territory a real consideration. It would inevitably get old and leaves no room for growth, only splintering and reformation. Perhaps that example is a little extreme, but scaling it back much further ends up leaving us with the current situation: disparate factions of four to eight people who have no particular reason to interact outside of boredom. 10 people don't have the manpower to hold more than one city very securely against any organized force. And having the sort of complicated socio-political interactions that breed a true complexity of conflict would, I argue, require no less than five separate factions. If it were three, one would just become a kingmaker. Were it four, it's probably just a 2v2 (which lets be honest is just a 1v1). Five, though, feels like about the right point for groups of 10 to start backstabbing eachother habitually. But even then, it's what? Ten dudes attempting to obsessively hold on to one single city? It lacks a sense of grandeur, not to mention that two groups deciding to pair up pretty quickly turns it into a 2v2 kingmaker situation. I suppose my point is that even if the situation were stabilized, we don't have much room to work with anyway. I think I'm getting lost in the sweet dreams of the distant future though. Anyway, wilderness zombies would probably go a long way towards forcing bands into competition with eachother right now.

It might be a 'valid tactic' for protecting your camp, or covering approaches while fueling vehicles, but it's not a 'valid tactic' for blocking off random buildings so you can farm loot. That's just exploiting and griefing in an unholy combination.

Sometimes it happens that after the server restart all vehicles/tents are not spawned. So if you can't see your vehicle where you left it, try to check again after the server restart. You can say for sure that it's the case if you can't see your tent as well.

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1. As stated, suggested before. 2. Big cities are more dangerous due to both comfined spaces and more aggressive players. What cities have you been in? 3. Forcing players to learn 225km squared maps is a major tax. Also, this has been suggested. But I like spawning with the knowledge of where I am, where I can go and what I will do. 4. Suggested before, and I have agreed to some of these from one extent to another in the past. 5. Crash Helicopters, ingame already. A treasure chest with a different skin if you want to look at it that way. Who uses treasure chests anymore? 6. I want roaming hordes as well. In the forest, possible hunting players or vehicles. I'd even like to see crazier zombies that actively stalk players. Answered. Next time, use the search function and support the ideas you like instead of creating threads on it, even if it is one.

I've heard of the horrendous instances where you'll be spotted from 100m for no apparent reason. Hopefully this can get fixed. And I'd really like to roll back to 1.7.1.5. The game is tedious as is, and we don't need to artificially lengthen gameplay time by making the only safe way to even look at a city is while proned. Addressing the bottlenecking further into the continent, I don't think that's much of a problem. As the days wear on in DayZ, I actually think bottlenecking is something we should look forward to. However, the big problem, at current, is that there is not reason to let anybody live through your bottleneck right now. Of course, that's also something I'd like to see rocket work on (group dynamics, specifically, where it's better to have that random survivor you've come across alive, rather than dead), but for now, I think the separation of levels is a necessity that would be fairly beneficial. Granted, those bottlenecks would exist, and hopefully as we reach the end of the development cycle, that's where communes and small settlements start to pop up, but they're also quite easy to bypass. Granted, the bypasses aren't the most convenient, nor safest, routes, but banditos can't exactly cover every square inch of a latitude line. So survivors looking to gamble can still take a shot at cracking the NW airfield or Stary. Focusing on the idea of 'small tribes' as well, I would love to see that evolve more as the game goes on. As mentioned above, group dynamics are something I look forward to in the future, but right now, as we establish our 'clans', I think we have a very good opportunity looking ahead. As these tribes, whether nomadic or stationary, evolve further through conquest and claimants, we'll eventually be able to set up those settlements, and all the pieces still fall into place. Lone wolves can still come and go as they please among these tribes and eventual-communities, and these tribes and communities can either clash or ally themselves with each other. Again, this all relies on group dynamics, as well as the advanced communication I'm hoping rocket will supply us with in the next few coming updates. But for now, as it is, I'd like to drive the small groups and tribes with 'ze phat lewt' to move more northward and prepare everything for the next coming updates. In short, as it is right now, I'd like to see those low/mid resource survivors to either hang near the coast (not exactly on the coast, but pretty much the southern-most two or three klicks) or to travel northward to try their hand at getting themselves military-tier weapons. This allows this group of players to team up fairly easily with the common bond of low-survivability, and move more northward with safety and precaution. Meanwhile, those who have established themselves with the military-tier weapons can be busy in the north, looting the larger towns, collecting up the vehicles, and setting up their camps. As I've said, none of this is currently possible with the total lack of trust and willingness among most survivors, due to a lack of easy communication and mixed bag of paranoia and lack of knowledge, but as soon as rocket gives us radios, we might actually be able to pull this off. (In hindsight, if half of this doesn't make sense, don't worry. I'm kinda half as confused as you. Little tired. I'll try and clarify what I can later. Right now, though, there's no way I can even be asked to try.)

The story is already, more or less, set, ya derps :P (no offense). I quote from the page: "A 225 km2 open world post-soviet state and one of the areas hit by a new and presently unknown infection which has wiped out most of the world's population. You are one of the few who have survived and now you must search this new wasteland in order to fight for your life against what is left of the indigenous population, now infected with the disease." So, basically forget about NATO / UN / RUSSIA coming in to help IF that story won't be changed or so. Then again, factions like the Chernarus Quarantine Force have their own backstory where Russia is safe, for example. I guess it's up to the players to come up with something, though we can assume that it spread BEYOND Chernarus. Heck, it'll likely won't even be the source, just another state that was hit. I for one would like to know how long it has been since day X there though. I mean, there's no populace left, military left the area, too. Most cars are, apparently, destroyed or gone, too. Yet, loot is kicking of course (gameplay reason I guess). I personally wish the story would get more "interactive" or expand, in addition to gameplay. Heck, imagine attacks by government / military remnants on towns, another threat to players. No, not via ground units (so people COULD, in theory, get easy loot or even vehicles), but perhaps bombing runs on places via planes. This would add a more chaotic atmosphere (apocalypse still going on) to all of it, instead of a "Fallout-like" scenario (already happened [long] ago).

City Lights? There is no power in chernarus. No electricity. Shovel to bury your backpack? So everyone can dig up the world ? you havent thought this thru. Try a Tent. Theres alot of bicycles, about as many as the amount of other vehicles. Other people can see your marks on the map, so you mark a car or where you stashed your backpack on the map someone else will find it with ease.... no offence.

I assume the new vehicle spawn script takes some time to generate the vehicles

Depends on what the server owner has setup, most servers state their restart times. Its a fifty fifty chance that they either restart twice daily or 4 times daily. You cant lose vehicles even if you dont save them, the only thing you save is the stuff you put into it. If its gone when you login then someone took it. Last patch made a lot of vehicles disappear for no reason though.

Me and some friends have been talking about this subject. We came to the conclusion that it wouldnt work. Bandits would simply camp the place or mug anyone coming out of it. We were talking about a special server where the map was just restricted to one town and noone could fire. But then we almost simultaneously said, what are we going to trade... You can find anything in the game with a bit of effort and you cant take vehicles with you so... Unless some changes are made to the game, bartering towns are useless for now.

I'm glad you are pretty sure the devs are aware. Are you really that narrow minded that you think i'm the first one to achieve this? There's countless people doing it and duping items. Keeping it a secret is the exploit ya tool. This is exactly the way to STOP said invisible snipers killing you randomly. Stir the hornets nest in order for a very simple fix. You can use this blue in the face comment, until your blue in the face. I will KEEP posting the exploit until the exploit is acknowledged by someone with a bit of credibility. Why? because there's no Alpha, Testing, Bug finding. When you can't go 40 meters to test stuff without getting plotted by some invisible character. You people are moaning about missing guns, while there's people not losing anything on death, running around with no chance of zombies noticing them and killing you. And it's been happening since the second patch by the looks of a few videos. I used to just think oh its script kiddies. but, nah, its not. It's easily exploited non-updates. If there wasn't page after page of i've lost *this*. I think the zombies are broken etc etc. Then i wouldn't have to keep posting this. I'll also spam the shite out of it until it is KNOWN by the devs. You do realize this, right? It's simple. Until Rocket / Anders says "cool story bro!" and i know they've seen it i'll keep posting it. Stop derailing the thread with your tin god comments about how if you were a mod you'd edit the post. And warn me. Get over yourself. You're the exact reason people shut up and screw the hell out of a bug (making it an exploit) and keep it hush hush for as long as possible. You thought the game was turning into a deathmatch before? Think about it now, when there's literally NO WAY of losing gear, and it's respawning at your selected waypoint with your same kit set up. Welcome to call of duty. with broken bones. This isn't an exploit, if they deal with it. This isn't a fully fleshed out game, it's a mod. In alpha. We are Alpha testers. This is the feedback page for the 1.7.2 patch. This is said feedback. Contribute, or don't post. But to be constructive about it. I have two methods to fix the exploit for the devs. who may or may not see this after Cyn edits my post and warns me :P 1) Force a patch server wide. If they're not running the latest version. No one connects to the server. I've never understood for the life of me why we have servers versions back in 1.7.0 etc when we're so far forward. This is Alpha, surely we have to unify the server files and not have multiple versions running. Which just creates false bug reports because someone is running on a server with slightly different setup files compared to the one they played on 20 minutes ago. The feedback is useless when they're running outdated versions. Most of them do it for personal gain as it's either easier because zombies haven't been tweaked, the loot spawns are more consistent, It's quieter so they can server hop and yum the loot up themselves. Only to then jump in the up to date version and be jackasses. There is NO legit reason for having an out dated version running on your server. Face it. It's an alpha mod that we are supposed to test at its current build. Who gives a rats arse if it's stable? It shouldn't be! If Dayz has such a huge player base all on one version, it moves forward a lot quicker. Vital bugs, ideas that are clearly not working are spotted so much faster and dealt with. (before someone mentions armax users - the ones that could fix it. the fix was in the form of a ARMA BETA patch. The others. were just SOL. It happens) Or 2) Force clients to be running the same files for the server. (This seems to be a fairly easy task. You show us when we're out of date with the watermarked you are running version 1.7.x, server is running 1.7.X) If you MUST keep the spectrum of versions across servers. Force people to pick. Seems to me like the code is already in place to know if you are running compatible versions or not. The checks are being done. And they're working. There's just no real action stopping you carrying on. I've tried to play on a 1.7.2 server with the experimental 1.7.2.1 files. and it's almost impossible. Due to the very simple fact that the watermark is a solid black screen. which hangs there for 5-10 seconds, leaves for a split second and is back. This is heading in the right direction and is already doable. It would almost fix everything in the exploit i've mentioned. You simply can not play the mod when trying to run on 1.7.2 with 1.7.2.1 files because of it. You have the ability, the coding is done. Just incorporate this screen into all incorrect versions. Instead of the watermark. and you've almost fixed the issue. I'd much rather see some ones character data wiped when they move from one major patch to the other. This stops them owning a 1.6 server with all their fancy gear and then jumping over to a 1.7.2 to kill someone with little fear of losing their other stuff a server across. This however may be a bigger task. I'm not sure if you can add code for the hive to check last played version. If the version its connected to doesn't correspond they get the male / female char choice and it's "OLA BEACH!" Course this would result in liquid gold. AKA Tears. But it's a mod in development and forcing a new spawn, on a new patch ensures everyone gets to thoroughly test it. From the start. It would also mean loot wipes, bye tents, vehicles etc. But the + side of it. You wouldn't have people saying "WHENS THE PATCH!?!?!" because they'd want to keep the cars / tents / piles of NVG's for longer. It'd be more like "ROCKET, ADD MORE. GIVE IT A WEEK OR 3. TEST IT MORE!"

Will try that today Levias. Hopefully it helps sudden2k stuff wont despawn. It isn't saved on your server, it's saved at the dayz hive. As long as you save vehicles and tents ingame ofcourse.

well hmm thats not good because i wont be there all the time and i want to rely on the automated restart. and hey, arent the vehicles and stuff despawn from saved locations when i "stop" the server ? thx 4 the quick answers btw

So I was playing with my friend and when I was In Elektrozavodsk we met some dude who was In tank and he suddenly fell unconscious and his tank exploded.Then we went to help him and asked where he found the tank he answered:I found It outside the city.I dont believe him that he found the tank,I believe he spawned It.His name was Wunder but you can change name so It is not important.So I am asking If It Is real to find a tank.

True. I can't care less about the vehicles, but the idea of a tazer etc. made me really excited!

Why don't you just join my clan, we already have like 6 people in and more are going to join, we have guns and equipment, if we had vehicles we could be unstoppable :D heres the link http://deltasquad.guildlaunch.com/index.php?gid=269957

I think once the major bugs are hashed out that some new content such as new vehicles would be pretty sweet to add to the game. I'm thinking police cars that have the Euro siren, fire trucks with water hoses that can knock players unconcious. Also it would be cool if non lethal weapons were found in the game to render people unconcious, force them to lower weapon for 10 seconds, or blurry vision (tazers/stun guns, rubber bullets, tear gas). I think these would reduce the amount of kill on sight that occurs to people just running into each other randomly and can set up more situations for bandit robbery and not just kill em and loot em.

I'm sure the vehicles have already spawned, they just aren't in their original positions. It happened to me too, when my new server went up there was barbed wire and tents already put up. Look around, you'll find a vehicle eventually.

Debris and broken vehicles do not spawn. They are part of the map and persistent across all servers, always exactly the same. Your game lagged and the objects did not render client side until you were inside of them. Internet lag can also cause this to happen sometimes. My one friend lagged so hard on his screen the road was clear but on ours it was not. He ended up getting a bus trapped between a bunch of broken rusted cars in a way that would not be possible to do if they were rendered on his screen.

Seriously. BF is also a PvP haven with lots of vehicles, weapons, ammo, and even respawning. Oh, wait... Stop being a douchebag.