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yeah we had some m203 flares as well. am so gutted that i wasnt recording now! if only you could carry lit flares onto vehicles it would have been complete

Hi, Are tents and vehicle saves still bugged? Just logged on and found our 2 tents and bus missing. Doesn't look like it was raided because the tank traps and wire fence are completely gone too. No flattened tents, no nothing. Wondering if the server was wiped and reset? Maybe after another server restart they will appear?

Why do it though? I sort of get the whole power over genuine players thing, but seriously, its just a game. Hacking the game at the current levels of stupidity just stops it being a game. IF you were only spawning stuff/gear/vehicles to give yourself an edge, then maybe it would still be a game, not a very challenging game, but still. The whole teleport/changing things/mass kill thing I just dont get. You seem to think that it has some sort of power over those that play genuinely, but it doesnt. It just encourages them to stop playing so the mod quickly dies and then your left hacking no-one. I mean come on, do you guys seriously suck so much at this game that you dont want to play it for the experience it is, you would rather just ruin it for yourself as well as others? Im not very good at all, but I am learning how to be better at it, but I would never consider cheating, let alone these stupid hacks. Doesnt sound very smart to me. Please dont take this as a 'boo hoo', butt-hurt, wail at you, its not. Nor is it directly aimed at you, its just there doesnt seem to be many people admitting to hacking, so its in your direction, just not specifically at you. People like you do not bother me in the slightest, Ill just move along to another game, easy come, easy go. Its more about just understanding the reason for doing it and as to why try ruining a game that has so much potential? Heres hoping to getting a proper answer rather than just some lame flame attempt.

Vehicles should spawn straight away. A virgin server is sweet there should be vehicles everywhere. Only thing i will say is a server restart can be bugged. It can make all tents and vehicles disappear. Youve restarted the server 10times and then looked for vehicles? Make sure you have atleast 1 tent down. If that tent is there on a restart, all vehicles should be also. Hope this helps. There is normaly always a truck at the quarry at Solconicy (SP) on the coast - There is normaly a BAF Offroad at green mountain but the offroad is bugged since 1.7.2. Check the lighthouses for bikes. Like at kamenka and near elektro. There should probably be a Hilux & ATV at prigordigy - the place inbetween cherno + elektro. Also black lake there is normaly always ATV's there on a virgin server if you know where to look and i dont mean just looking at the loot map for them that doesnt help.

On my server, the vehicles spawned at once. Found 4 boats, two cars, 1 v3s, 3 bikes and 2 atvs the first day.

I am a former survivor that worked with Caviano. Myself and roughly 3 others formed a group with Caviano at the head. We spent approximately two weeks working with Caviano, whilst three or four other members spent over a week with him. This was our "core group" and we formed the backbone of the workforce. Caviano's "survivor tactics" include singing songs through in game chat when no one wants to hear them, throwing flares when other members have night vision and are trying to find and locate a murderer; disrupting our night vision and effectively blinding us, saying disturbing and gross comments of sexual nature while getting incredibly high, and taking everything without ever adding anything. More on this later. Let me go back to night runs, though; any night runs, in fact, would always bring along many flares from Caviano, illuminating our position to any potential snipers in the area, with little to no care from Caviano despite the fact everyone in the group had agreed the flares were irritating. Many of our runs back included him singing nonsense and constantly "reloading" his weapon to the point where I had to turn my in game sound off. Of course, when I said, "Okay, my sound is back on now." He did it one more time just as a "joke." Caviano treated the members of his group that provided the trucks and weaponry as if they were "his men." He took all the credit for our "missions" despite the fact the stories he posted on these forums are largely fabricated and "roleplayed" out. Consistently and nightly, all Caviano would care about was his "Bean count" on the forums and would ramble on multiple occasions about "Doctor Wastelands Whitelist." While the intricacies of why any of this mattered continue to elude me, this would not be what truly lit up Caviano's colors, despite the fact caring about only reputation and not doing any work for yourself is bad enough. Less than a week ago, a member called Petllama opened up a new home server for our core group mentioned in paragraph one. The core group prepared and readied themselves the entirety of the day to log on and get a hold of the Ural Civilian for our new home base camp. While we worked diligently, Caviano found his favorite "blue van" and drove it to the airfield with parts we didn't even need for the Ural Civilian. We also built the V3S Civilian later that night, which Caviano had no part in, but was sure to ride around in. The rest of the night was spent developing more vehicles, while Caviano sat around. The night ended with a lackluster run into town that only occurred because Caviano decided to throw a flare that illuminated our V3S Civilian on the hill above Chernogorsk. While we were moving, we noticed another flare in Cherno and Cav started running forward into survivor mode. No doubt he saw another opportunity for forum posts about us and more bean counts. The encounter ended with him insuring "Jack" that he make a post about this on the forums, or whatever. The entire encounter was written about in a largely fabricated post that contained nothing short of lies and deviation from the truth in grotesque ways. All for reputation. All for those beans. Some mumble drama occured where a user was not fit to be in our group, and instead of appropriately handling the situation and listening to the core group of players, Caviano got into an argument/fight with his "real life friends" while on Mumble which actually culminated in him being BANNED from his own mumble by his "real life friends." All the while our core group continued to be pestered and insulted and called faggots from this member whom Caviano refused to ban despite the fact we told him multiple times we were being called faggots. Caviano being banned from his OWN mumble was just the beginning of the "mumble antics," however. The grossest thing about Caviano's fresh new group post is what came from within his "best friends" in the mumble he invited us all to. There, within the confines of his Mumble server, 3 or 4 of his "neighbors" and real life friends plotted to ruin our entire camp, and they almost succeeded. Caviano got on a recruiting spree where he would introduce brand new members at a rate faster than any of the core group could get to know the new recruits or play with them at all, so trust was not built and these new members were nothing but tacked on. During this interchange of new recruits, one of his real life friends was already putting his ignorant plan into motion by pretending to play with our group, meanwhile, another one of his real life friends was busy sniping us off and killing us, getting ever closer to our camp that contained the Ural Civilian. Erik as it were, brought in a new member, named Andrew, who was just out to kill all of us and succeeded in stealing the Ural Civilian. Meanwhile, Jlam had items of mine that were missing while Caviano continuously denied his friends dissent. Whatever the case may be, items were missing on a daily basis, at this point almost no one could be trusted, and Caviano continued to deny the truth to the point where he had a fairly hideous explosion on me, who had played with him for two weeks, which ended with him saying in his wisdom, "Dude, if you're really that paranoid you can just fuck off." Which I did. And so did the rest of the core group. Nonetheless, Caviano later comes into the chat, sounding depressed, no doubt needing pity or sympathy for himself, by saying "Man, I feel like such a douchebag... My friends were stealing shit and they fucked up the camp and I told everyone to fuck off, but like, I had to man, they are my real life friends, you know?" No, Caviano, I don't know. Neither does anyone else who played with you for multiple weeks. All of the members Caviano recruited after the "core group" of members took without asking, borrowed without permission, died on a nightly basis with rare items that were increasingly hard to replace, did not put anything back into the trucks, did no work for us, did not help us, and Caviano was just concerned about "cruising around and doing pickups." The bottom line is this. Caviano used the members of his group for reputation. In every single forum post he made, he never mentioned any of us by name. We were his impersonal men. His impersonal men that he ran around in circles while singing and throwing flares to give away our position despite the fact people asked multiple times for him to stop. He would never give us credit, the only thing he would ever care about was his beans, and he would always refer to us as an accessory to himself, not as the forerunners of the group which actually made things possible. He would constantly give away our possessions, argue about use of the vehicles we constructed, and then when possessions were outright stolen and it was obvious to everyone he told me to "fuck off" only to then come back later and say "I was such a douchebag" as if anything at that point he was saying was making sense. I had to struggle to fully interpret any of the things Caviano said to me and the rest of the group simply ignored most of it. In the end of it all, Caviano let bandits come into the group and take possession of all of our stuff and "forgave Andrew" and ignored the fact that he stole shit and ruined the entire group dynamic we had built for multiple weeks. Not only did he allow bandits and his "real life buddies" to fuck up all our of shit, but he threw flares around our V3S Civilian in Cherno which directly jeopardized all of our things so he could run in to do a rescue mission in Cherno which consisted of a song over in game voice chat, "We're friendlies in Cherno! We're friendlies in Cherno!" Where a vital member of our group was shot at by a guy who needed a blood transfusion. Okay. Right. I would highly advise anyone who is thinking about joining Caviano in his future endeavors to think twice. You will end up as another means of reputation and bean count for Caviano, as he attempts to do things that will get stories "posted on the forums." Including running two of his long time members out to give morphine to a guy who very clearly evaluated whether or not he should "take the shot" for a few seconds after we healed him. Of course, those few seconds after we healed him was him "in his inventory." according to Caviano. The same person who called his friends innocent and told his long time members to "fuck off" when they were right all along about theft and flat out bullshit that Caviano could not control in any way, shape or form.

Hey guys. Here I am again. We finally figured out how to admin a server and started our server finally(with 12-12 hours restart). But me and my clan nowfigured out something really annoying. After more than 10 resets, the server is on for more than 9 hours from the last restart and we have plenty of clan members looking for cars right now on each of the known spawn points and we haven't found any(we didn't looked for cars until today when we finally figured out how the stuff works), so we are kind of desperatedlylooking each spawn location with no success. When does the cars begin to spawn? This way we can take ours(we only need 2 vehicles, no helis) and leave the rest for the welcomed competition(one thing we encourage other clans to do, specially Brazilians). Is it right?? Will the vehicles spawn on a 7 days period like when they explode? I really thank you all who reply to this. And take a look at our server too, we are not too friendly, unless you talk to us first, in-game! =) US 1304.

Okay, firstly to start off, the server in overall is great, might be a bit of a loot problem or something not that much of importance. As me and another group were getting ready to raid the admin base, on my way there, an admin stated that apparently Me is going to raid the base as if he found out somehow, I guess of the chat logs, as we might've spoken about raiding too obviously. Also, another friend of mine, told me that there was a snitch named Kieron and told the admin about it, but not sure how he found out, anyways. We went to the base, both groups gathered up, raided it and at the end of raiding it, there was a shutdown announced (what a coincidence) by a manual notice. Well, this was obvious for us, someone cares about their stuff too much. So we flew away to some other spot on the map quickly, saved the helis shitloads of times and well, "session lost". Today I join up with my mates on TS asking how are the helis doing? They tell me, the server was rolled back and the entrance was completely blocked off as in no way possible to get in now. As you know those white dots in arma that indicate vehicles, players, etc, there was quite a lot of them now in the base (that's what my mate saw), but the admin told me it was a fuel tank (lmfao), we saw it before and obviously a map prop isn't indicated by the game. These events lead up to me and all of my group and not only my group, all other players that started an argument to find out the truth, getting banned. As the admin came on, I started pointing out what happened in the side chat to the whole server, so all of the players would know (why not?), then asked the admin 3 times, why did he rolled back? His answer only came after the 3rd time telling me to shut the fuck up and that it doesn't relate me why he roll backed. Okay, I guess, there was a valid reason why he rolled back as in no how related to that raid. As I told him he won't tell the truth about what happened I told him that I'll stay quiet now and he asked me to shut the fuck up again, "don't like it, go play somewhere else" so I said "I'll stop now then.". After 5 mins passed after my last message I've got banned temporarily for being quite annoying even though I said I'm stopping now, staying shut - fair enough. Not being assravaged, am only stating of what happened that lead up to the ban and the results.

I crashed two vehicles and want to know when they will respawn?

I was playing on there server with a friend and saw number of trucks that wen't driving by, We took shot's at them but missing them as they were too far away. We continue playing on then we find a bus that they must have left behind, We were then driving and someone started shooting at the bus. When we got out there site the server immediately crashed, Then when it was restarting I joined into the lobby and was kicked. I joined in again then was kicked for a second time, Upon trying to joining the third time it said the server was locked. I don't think people should have the privilege of hosting a DayZ if there gonna cheat like this for vehicles, It takes away from the Dayz experience of loosing them and trying to hunt them back down. Proof: http://imgur.com/Da1z7 ( I took the screen shot a bit late but as you can see in the text that it was there server and I was kicked by the Admin twice then it shows the server locked ) Hope the DayZ dev's can do something about this.

The server in question is Country# (1.7.2.3/95208) dayzmod.com - Happy DayZ - Vilayer.com - Our group stumbled across multiple vehicles (5+) as well as a number of tents that were set up within the perimiter of the North West Airfield earlier this afternoon. As you would expect, we took a couple of the vehicles and the loot that was useful to us and thought nothing more of it. We continued playing on this server until just 10-15 minutes ago at which point the whole group received the 'no message received' text that appeared on the screen. When the server had reset, we attempted to rejoin to continue where we had left off previously and found that every single one of us received the 'Battleye: Banned' message upon attempting to connect to the server. At the minute, there is only one person on the server, I'm guessing the admin, who is probably busy getting all his stuff back having realised the stupidity of leaving such a camp set up within a high traffic area such as the North West airfield. It's a shame to see server admins behaving like this as it ruins what is otherwise a very enjoyable experience with DayZ.

The admin cheats, if someone steals his vehicles he closes the server and rolls it backto get it, this one just so happened to be in elektro it caught on fire and he screamed"elektro is on fire!" and it reset so his "fort" at elektro didn't get destroyed this isn't the first time he's abused his powers. How do you post a video on here because I attached a the video file but it didn't post it?

Well if they stop things being taken off the map then I see this being totally awesome. My group is constantly having shoot ups and raids with another group on our server, constantly stealing each others vehicles etc. It's pretty awesome, a chopper would make it even awesomer.

Probably nothing since they will be gone within 5 minutes and probably never seen again, if there are only 3 helicopters. There are plenty of vehicles and i havent seen any of those in the last month either.

I assume there's only so much that can be done without engine changes. The teleportation/speed hacking would actually be really easy to combat, I think. The server can simply check if a player's position is too far from the position during last game tick, and not move the player in this situation (there is a Minecraft mod that does something like this). I'm not sure if weapon/vehicle/npc spawning would be so easy to stop, as I don't know how the cheat clients make the server think it should create new vehicles. This is just from my limited knowledge of game networking, so I could be wrong. Anyways, if the game ever goes stand-alone, hopefully rocket will make sure the engine keeps hackers in mind.

Yesterday I've had my first encounter with a hacker. He teleported me to himself, then shot my nearly-month-old character to death. The server (NL 13) drained soon after, since he was doing it with pretty much all players. I tried to report the guy on the server hoster's forum, but apparently they can't get a killer's name out of their own server log, nor did I have any means to identify my killer at all. I took a quick look: a simple google session will give you the tools to ruin the game for everyone without BattleEye lifting a finger. Spawning weapons, vehicles, teleporting players or causing other types of havoc. Rocket himself said that cheaters are probably the largest threat to his game right now. The original Arma 2 was, from what I understand since I wasn't around back then, much more close knit, much more oriented around clans and groups of players. That lack of social control and the fact you're mostly on servers full of strangers, means there's a sharp rise in the amount of cheaters who are just out there to spoil other people's fun. Cheating is relatively easy because Arma 2's networking is client-authorative. The client says he does something (say: "I want to spawn an tank"), and the server accepts that (in things like website development this is a big no-no, hence the saying "never trust the client"). This does have its perks: servers can host huge groups of players with processing time to spare for other things (which I guess DayZ happily uses for zombie AI). Server-authorative engines, such as Source and Unreal, are much more secure but it also makes them limited (player counts beyond 32 makes things unstable and laggy). So I'm left wondering how this is going to play out. What measures is Rocket going to take? What measures can be taken right now? Is the upcoming stand-alone version of DayZ going to change anything? Is it going to allow us to physically punch cheaters in the face over TCP/IP? Cheaters are a serious gamebreaker for this mod. More so than in any other game. All your progress, all your effort, all your fun, all down the drain because of one asshole.

No, for two reasons: 1. The only uses for the hatchet in the game are uses for which hatchets are intended. Degradation at that extreme rate is unrealistic. 2. All other items in the game, with the exception of vehicles, can be used indefinitely without any kind of maintenance. Also unrealistic, but at least it's balanced. Singling out the hatchet seems....odd. This isn't a bad idea in itself, but I think it should either be greatly expanded or dropped altogether. It's also worth pointing out that the topic of weapon upkeep, in more expansive terms, has been touched on elsewhere in Suggestions.

another thing to add here when on a bus or when in a boat....i understand having a shoty when riding shoty but not only that be able to move around lets say your on a boat we get the fishing pole idea into play and you have to jump out the boat and swim while fishing? what is that lol so y not as a option when your seeing driver seat back seat etc. make you that says free roam or somthing along the lines you get the idea not only to shot ppl which is going to be great tired of ppl stealing vehicles lol but make it to were you can have a spoter or you can have a fisherman while ppl are sitting down. just another idea trust me ill have more coming. wanted to add to this on the free roam part so lets say your on a bus but your stuck in the seat....how many times in school were you in the middle of the bus walking around....of course bus slams on brakes bam theres your face on the floor lol but same for this let you walk around the bus and not have to sit down unless wanted and if you wreck so be it maby you break a bone or you loss some kind of health just an idea im not saying make your guy go flying threw the window gta style but maby smack the window now you gota help your buddy out and replace the window at this point....just a thought

I'd like to stress another important issue following the reason we came across this server in the first place. -The fact that it's named UK 1 is most likely a direct attempt to detour players into thinking that they are one of the main UK servers on the legitimate DAYZ Database, as the majority of other servers on rockets hive follow the trend of UK 127 and GB 50 which is just a brief example. -Upon logging in here admin abuse ensues, its quite frustrating after searching for gear as you would on a regular server! Personally i think private servers such as these shouldn't be shown on things such as six launcher or even the arma2 server list (unless it's clearly stated that it is a private server and will not carry over equipment you've found to any other server). -This isn't just some petty rant, as you can see Nyxe2k and myself are friends with similar names on these forums, him and i were both banned from the server after tedious hours of playtime, aswell as MANY and i'm talking around 8 people who questioned the admins actions towards taking the only servers high end vehicles and storing them in an impenetrable fortress, and using these to get to inaccessable areas to kill players that have no chance of getting their loot when they die, as they simply fly back in their helicopters when we manage to kill them. -Another instance of this abuse is when we did manage to find a bunch of vehicles in this "so-called" base the server was rolled back within 5 minutes and the "wall" around this base was re-enforced ensuring no one could enter, now i don't know about anyone else but i think this is a complete disregard for other players wanting to make progress in this game. -Now i'm not sure what action can be taken against a server like this as they're the ones paying for their hosts and setup the database themselves ;p, although something as simple as removing them from the launcher would surely help towards what we have witnessed today which is the pure administrator abuse and shit talking to other players, something that ruins such a community driven game such as this. If other people just see this as a post of me being butthurt over a ban from a server imagine urself in another players shoes being banned for questioning why this abuse is happening this post is really a shoutout to other players, to not join this poor excuse of a server, you're only wasting ur own time if you want to progress.

No items you find in this game are yours forever, including what you are carrying as well as your own life. Cheaters that can find your hidden vehicles using scripts can also just spawn in additional vehicles... so why would they care about finding and running to your pickup truck when they can just spawn 5 of them next to themselves? The scripting and cheating is completely rampant lately (which is major reason why I have put the whole game on ice for now), but even if it wasn't... do you think you OWN the vehicles you find in the game? Or that items you come across are yours forever and you can just stash it all away in a secure location and keep them? That's not how the game works, or how it should work. So you found a car, great. Now you have an advantage over others, so use it while you can. And if you are smart and hide it well, you may even keep it for a few days. But eventually it is going to be lost. Either stolen, destroyed, despawned by server, glitched out, you crash into a twig at 10kmh and it instant-explodes... either way... at some point you are gonna lose it. And noone is gonna steal it "within seconds" unless you park it in a high active area (such as anywhere near Cherno or Elektro, as well as the other larger towns like Berezino, Stary or Zelenogorsk... or anywhere along the coast for that matter. We had two vehicles for over a week, a sedan and a large Ural truck. You try hiding a white/bright blue truck and see if you can't spot it for miles around. It's huge, shines up like crazy (especially with the messed up bloom effects) and is overall nearly impossible to miss. But we hid it in a location where we knew very few people traffic through. However, I was on just recently, camped out where our vehicles had been... and everything was gone. Sedan, truck, even our bicycle. Most important thing you need to learn in DayZ is to not get attached to your gear, because you WILL lose it. That's only a matter of time and it doesn't matter if it's your can or beans or your helicopter.

i agree with this to 100% but at the same time with the guys post before me the tipping over of vehicles which you mainly see with 4 wheelers which i have had the pleasure of finding sideways a time or 2.....no push over option cmon guys i mean ik ima big fella and can do it one handed but man give the option im tired of looking for hours and finding one and siting there forever trying to think of some way to get that thing back on the wheels......also food....fishing you start off on the coast i mean water is in the game we can drink from it y not use it to the full potential it has.....theres fish in water.....so lets grab um just some ideas off the top of my head

Yeah everyone should start with a map. It should show the real-time location of all survivors, tents, and vehicles. Ammo mags should stack to infinity in inventory. Also why don't we have the option to create classes or gain skillpoints yet?

They are kinda doing it on the wrong end though. If this is gonna be a survival game and not just another Sniper Ghost Warrior clone they need to reduce the amount military grade weapons in the game. Yes, I know ArmA is a mil-sim, but if you want a full rack of military weapons, play vanilla ArmA and not a mod like DayZ. DayZ as a survival game where people are thrown in as unarmed civilians should have mostly handguns like revolvers and semi-auto pistols, and some shotguns like the doublebarrel, pump action and semi-auto shotguns... and the rare scoped hunting rifle. Finding highpowered military weapons such as AK's, M16. M4's, AS50's, M107's, DMR, Dragunov and other purely military weapons should be extremely rare. But, this is based on a military simulator so naturally there is an overload of military weapons in the game. It never made sense to me why I'd find a DMR in a random deerstand... or a G17 for that matter.... or why there is AK47's floating around in a civilian fire station. That makes sense...oh wait, it doesn't. 1. Remove high end military weapon spawns from fire stations, deerstands and other civilian structures 2. Bring handguns and shotgun damage back up to speed 3. Make ammunition for scoped rifles and military grade weapons very rare. It actually makes me laugh to watch DayZ videos on youtube where people aren't playing for surviving... they are running around in the woods with ghillie suits and M249 machineguns... just as if they were playing a regular mission in vanilla ArmA2... hunting players rather than having to worry about food, water, keeping warm, disease, weather and zombies. It gets even better when threads start popping up where people are asking for armed vehicles / technicals with machineguns mounted on top (e.g. hummvee with .50 cal on roof). If you want all that military stuff, the weapons, snipers, armed vehicles... why are you playing DayZ and not regular ArmA2 multiplayer?

dear bombe! I stumbled over this topic, after searching for my friends server. I was a witness of the things, you accused my friend. So, here is, what really happend. We found a huge camp, with lots of stuff in it. high military stuff, in large numbers, also tents with up to 16(!) tents in them. Also vehicles, full of stuff. We are talking about 10 or 12 tents and 4 or 5 vehicles. The server was just up a week, and it had lots of update problems regarding vilayer, so it was impossible, to get all the cars in the few days. We took some stuff with us, set up a new camp. Next day, we drove back, and - surprise - all the tents where again full with the same stuff. That's when it got obvious, that we found a cheaters camp. The question was, how to deal with the hackers, cause the admins hand are very tied in arma2. So when you admit, that that was your camp, then you accuse yourself as a highly potential cheater. My friend logged of, when he got killed, and shut down the server for a few days, to look for a solution concerning the hacking problems. there is no abuse in this. the server wasn't renamed, it was just off. When he reopened it, we took the stuff, and set up a new camp, of course - what should we do else. Our solution was, that we can't do anything, so we let the server running, since thursday. If your camp got destroyed - then you deserved it. But you had more than 24 hours to get the rest of your stuff back, so stop whining. And the daytime/nighttime changing: that's the only power, an admin has, so stop complaining about that. It's his server, so he can choose, what he wants - that doesn't concern the amount of players. Buy your own server, there you can hack as long as you want, but stop complaining about regular loosing things in forum, and stop accusing other people. You are welcomed to play fairly on our server, as everybody else. Greetings, Nomad

Genius sir! Best thing i have heard for a while. Last night was the end to one of the longest life i've had yet. Progress of about 2 weeks, i was decked out in almost everything thing this game has to offer (MK 48, NVG, rangefinder, ghillie suit, GPS,etc literaly the only thing missing was a compass for some reason). Anyway my team end up with a Ural, UAZ and me on a bike (this is a different story on how i lost the bike), we did the whole convoy thing till we found a site to hide the ural while we went to search for more tents in the UAZ. Both vehicles almost full we began to transfer the gear to the ural. This is what i started to do (standing outside the car, while the driver is still in, waiting) while standing on the drives side searching the gear. It was a night time server and i was the only one with the nvg. All i hear is the driver say im gonna hop out and help( me thinking nothing of it). As soon as he gets out, i hear my guy scream bloody murder, bones cracking and i fall over then see a YOU ARE DEAD. Every one else freaks and assume a shooter. 2 mins past and no shots, then i ask my friend " did you hear me die when you got out the car?" he said "yea, it scared this shit out of me". i congratulate him on his murder as we laugh to tears, on the irony of my death, considering all the stuff that has happened to me before on this guy. As they offer to grab my stuff and bring it to me, i say "you keep what you kill" (awesome movie reference) which made my night.