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Holey disagree the game needs to be like every other game out there - i.e. having missions. Missions that are already in the game: find players to work with or trust repel players who aren't friendly collect stuff to make life easier collect parts to build a vehicle, or steal one (then use said vehicle to repair & retrieve more vehicles) The unique experience of DayZ could be improved by following the example of the last two in that list; create more complexity, ability, and self-structured 'missions' to make the game what you want of it. So let's say that my group and I decide that we want either electricity for our compound, or for the entire city of Elektro... we're industrious... so how can we get this power plant back online? (I could see trading goods, power, or something else to a community who runs the mine / quarries in the game for their coal.) It could certainly go in that direction, and while it would be great, the problem would be that it would probably grow away from the experience of being a survival-based endurance fest. Of course the problem with anything being survival based is... once a player learns enough personal skills and collects or creates good equipment, they're really at the stage of Rocky mountains' mountain-men of the past... they'd surely create shelters and try to improve upon life, and some would congregate to make communities who would want security (solid and high walls to prevent zombies and bandits from entering) and electricity. I'm just not sure, having played DayZ mod, that any stand-alone game that would allow me and my group to live on our own for days, weeks and months on-end in the wilderness (once I had a fire starter kit, an axe, and the ability to collect game and water) without allowing greater opportunity to re-create civilization, would warrant the $$ to buy it.

And then you realized the items that people dupe or hack-in can be looted by legit players. In their tents, their vehicles or even on their corpses...

Basically I'd like some input from other server admins and anyone who has had to deal with similar situations. There is a clan that frequents our server who we, as well as others on the server, have suspected of cheating / foul play for a while now. Their ability to find our vehicle locations almost instantly after relocating them is second to none, as well as seeming to know where we are. Twice they've waited for us to leave different camp locations to kill us. Both locations were opposite ends of the map. One of the times they had parked their ATV (which was ours, hidden in a completely different place that they managed finding before making their way to us) about 500 metres or so away whilst scoping out our camp with an AS50. Bearing in mind our camp was located beyond the peak of a hill meaning they had no sight of it from where they were, yet they knew we were there. Anyway, each time they've raided our camp and vehicles we've managed to find them again due to them hiding them in obvious places (along the top of the map) and us having a good amount of man power. Their very first camp we raided must have been there a while with 15 tents or so full of what appeared to be duped guns, ammo, supplies and coyote backpacks. Amongst these duped guns were 7 holographic suppressed M4s, which are not in the game as far as we're aware. So today after all of the suspicion I decided to take a look at the logs to see if there was anything else they were guilty of. I wouldn't say I was surprised when I saw 2 of their members both had the thermal AS50s as well as silenced PDWs. Fair enough if one of them had killed someone who had scripted them in, but both of them having the same loadout leads me to believe they actually do it themselves. I realise the first points I've mentioned are purely hearsay and don't really have any concrete evidence but I believe the scripted and duplicate weapons are surely solid enough to give me a reason to get rid of them.

It seems, that since weapons are eventually saved to the server, that Rocket could inspect everything saved in backpacks, tents and vehicles, and eliminate non-Dayz weapons, whatever. But - no; that seems to easy - plus, I'm sure he's too busy shuttling back and forth to the bank.

not sure why everyone is so cheesed about the graphics bug it only affects a small portion of the maps, stary and the nw arent the only fun places, my buddies and i have crazy gear but we cant go north so we just havin a blast on the coast, doin smash and grabs in cherno, fighting bandit snipers, doin bus missions just try some new gameplay down south in other news ive been noticing wierd shit with vehicles, sometimes from taking minor damage they will exploded, without killing the drivers who get kicked from the server, then after a reset they appear where they blew up full of thier old gear, anyone getting this? Anyways pumped for the patch, wanna find me a heli and take some guys on thier first stary raid :)

On the server we put up we have plans to put all those into the script.txt but we want to know something else. There has been a recent outbreak of people who use the bug of where the game doesn't load trees/plants/ grass and then go around killing other players / raiding camps / stealing vehicles. Is there a way we as admins can combat this? A way to have battle.eye or the game check to see if those files are loading?

I need Sandbags (as many as you can provide) & a SVD Camo + Mags ... Did 2 Trades already one with these guys: http://dayzmod.com/forum/index.php?/topic/52144-ceased-trading/#entry500203 and the other one with a guy named "Proudful" in this Forum. I can offer you nearly everything in this game ... except for vehicles obviously .. Send me a PM if you are interested

I probably dont give a damn after smoke some joint tonite but I had to get it out. plus these things need to be posted here. nice theory but no smartguy. I had 70ping and my buddy had 15ping (he's from NL). we got kicked 10 times just after getting into lobby. They were stacking vehicles, and we had no business at all with vehicles. We just wanted to travel from A to B in a night server. Maybe he banned us Idk. I'll give it a try soon.

This is correct. It exists in the game files but has ZERO chance of spawning. Doesn't mean his spawned it himself though, but only an idiot would wear it. Just save the heli and reset the server, if it disappears it's because it's been scripted in since hacked vehicles don't get saved.

The vehicle kill is hard to get Im upto 1 Death and 1 wounded so far with vehicles 1 Clean Roadkill with V3S and the other i clipped him with a Quad and put him down bleeding but i left him to repair and moved on

Hey DayZ community! A friend of mine and me have been playing on the same server for almost 3 weeks. On that server, we´ve got a camp with almost all civilian vehicles except the blue van and the red car. The thing is, we haven´t seen or found any military vehicles yet, for example the UAZ or the Military Offroad, to us, it seems like as if they weren't on the server. Neither have we heard/seen a chopper yet. I know that they might be hidden very well, but as I said, we have almost all other vehicles, but we haven't seen any of the military ones. Is it possible to disable military vehicle spawns on servers? I would ask the server admin, but I can't find a possibillity to contact him. Can you guys give me an answer? Thank you very much! Have fun, thefailixproject

We have buyed a Server and want to build a camp but every time we repair a vehicle the vehicle is despawned at the next Server restart to the Spawnpoint of the Vehicle or the Vehicle transforms into a another Vehicle like the Bus transforms to a Bycicle or the Boat to a ATV. We dont know why this happend but we try it ervery day but the Vehicles are always gone. And the only Answer from the Support is: "A simple server restart should bring them back. Sometimes they don't load properly if you're experiencing connections issues." But this cant be because we try it since the server started and it happens every time. The only Problem can be at the Hive not the Server because the Hive manage all the Spawns. I hope anyone can help us. Sry for my English im from Germany :)

You can store things in tents and vehicles, but they are server specific, so you'll have to play on only that server, or at least log into it first to grab your stuff. It's kinda a toss up on what happens on patches and reset, it's intended to save your stuff regardless, so long as you save the tent/vehicle, but tents are buggy, so don't rage when you come back and all your stuff is gone. Also to that effect, they can be looted by other players who happen upon them, so don't set up your tent in the middle of Cherno, find a low-no traffic place in the forest. People may still find it, but that's how the game goes. My current gear I got by stumbling upon a clan camp, so I'm decked out Gillie suit and all. Depends on the server for restart times. A lot do it just to keep it 24/7 daylight. You'll usually see a 10 min warning in the chat. ALICE is the 2nd biggest. The Coyote Backpack is the largest with 24 slots but they're rare, and only found in military spawns. If you aren't trying to carry around 2 rifles, ALICE should suit your needs just fine.

well, the scripting is technically doable now using ArmA's mission editing software. the loot tables are simply database changes. the buildable structures work just fine in ArmA, There's dozens of vehicles that are in ArmA, but not in DayZ, and the list goes on.... actually I believe the hardest changes would actually be the headshot only kills, the grouping and social changes, and the "hirable" NPCs.... Thouch NPC's already man weapons for you in ArmA, you'd just have to figure out some sort of "fuel/monetary" cost to associate with that so it's not overpowered... There's already a power grid mod in the works for one of the dayz private servers, even some limited scripting iirc. Very little of this list is beyond the scope of ArmA 2, and I believe Rocket has mentioned he is wanting to build a stand alone version of DayZ on the updated engine ArmA 3 is going to be running on. I could be wrong there though.

Well, i am playing this game since may and i registered just to post this. All i can say, if server is up more then for 1 week, all vehicles are at camps. No point going at vehicles map from wiki and other sources. Yes, there's a chance you could find one, thats just because someone like me blew up some camp. If you really want to find a vehicle and AS50, L85, rangefinders and everything i suggest you go this route: Start from the forest near Black Lake --> Guba --> North east side of the map ->> Go though the north side of the map at horizontal grid 0-1 at hills with no forest and look in binoculars @ forest from time to time --> Pass Grozovoy--> West side of the map and go south. 100% chance you will find a camp with a car/bus/tents, everything. When i was new to this game, i was just going around the cities looting beans, looting m16 at the airfield and heli crashes. But now when i just die i go to my camp or steal gear from people camps. Now i do now, find camp, steal vehicle, leave it in the center of Cherno and going back north. Mostly next day i find the same vehicle up north side of the map and do it again, lolz.

Locking a server is not allowed ... they are probably searching for vehicles/chopper/camps ...

Thank you first of all for your comment! :-) To be honest, a hacker doesn't seem very likely to me, in the 3 weeks we have been playing on the server, we haven't seen a single one of them. I thought, that parking vehicles outside the map won't save them? Isn't it the debug zone, where nothing can be saved? Why is it impossible to find them 1-2 weeks after they have been destroyed? I don't get the point, sorry. :P Have fun, thefailixproject

I would agree. If they added military vehicles, tanks, airplanes, etc....., it would be fun. Scenario: raiding an airfield. Send in two men to clear it out, then have them hold it. Fly in in your plane, and boom, you have an epic raid. Just wait for Arma 3, when the truly big changes will take place.

I like the idea of rail vehicles ; fast moving (long) ghost trains (anyone remembers the movie "RunawayTrain" ?) could also be pretty awesome.

Nope... Impossible, the Vehicles are managed directly from the Dev team, on the main servers, nothing us admins can do about it... You must be facing a case of people camping outside the map with those vehicles, I wont be surprised if they were... Now the UH is already spawning somewhere where people usually don't look, most of the people u see in a heli either hacked it in, or used ESP hacks to find those helicopters... I said most not all, and why do I say that? Simply because the location where the UH1H spawns is the place where no one even dared to venture to... Because the location has literally nothing... and u lose everything if you dare step into water. But in 3 days of the helicopters being added, everyone already owned a chopper, I found mine north of gorka almost completely red, in under 24 hours of choppers being released, until a hacker took the heli in no more than 24 hours, and crashed it somewhere... Thats DayZ for you. So if your looking for the UAZ or the offroad, its practically impossible to find them until like 1-2 weeks after they have been destroyed, some hackers do that when they come in just to destroy legit vehicles, for some laugh's :)

Same thing happened on our server last night, one of our guys was in the back of a Urial we had and got teleported to what sounded like debug forest where he said it looked like every vehicle in the game was in a giant conga line. Now i can't seem to find any vehicles anywhere. I tried the restart command but it doesn't seem to reset the vehicles. Let me know if you find a solution.

So with 15 reports of cheaters on the server all day since this morning, day changing to night and back randomly (didn't think this was possible) teleporting, every single camp on the map being destroyed and all vehicles destroyed, even the few regular clans who escaped their bases destructions being magically found no matter where they went... Server will be down until I can fix an Exploit I've been informed off that lets people get admin access to our server (our regular admin has found himself banned) and go through the scripts log to ban the offending players the server will remain down. Sorry :(

i had a chat with the admin, he checked the logs, found someone who was talking about teleporting and spawning items/vehicles that account was banned. this server is definitely worthy of being your home server, if anything happens report it to cali and antikrist in the lobby of the server by yelling in group chat

First off, vehicles are going to be hard as hell to find in the first place because, 1. There is only one vehicle of that type per map. (One Ural, One UAZ, One etc, etc.) 2. Admins and Hackers love to hoard all the vehicles on that server because they can lock the server, restart the server so the vehicles reset, etc. 3. All vehicles have many different spawn points ranging across the map.

Would be great. I think a 5 (currency unit) charge per slot or something couldn't hurt. I have been trying for the "home server" thing lately and it's paid off. I know where there a couple of rundown vehicles with some specific gear that someone stashed and it's helped me out. It also been interesting watching one particular car somehow get more and more damaged over the last week. Like its falling into disrepair, out in the forest.