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Well a question to see if this pertains to this matter! Do server owners or their admins have the right to dictate to us what you can or can't have in the way of vehicles, if they have most of them in "their" camp? My group and I are running into this situation right now! We relocated to a server after helping an admin catch a hacker in a different server who destroyed our camp and killed me! The admin is an admin for both servers and invited us to move to his main server, so we did. But only later to find out that the server owner doesn't believe that anyone other "his group should have certain vehicles"!! Well last night one of my friends stumbled across their base and took a vehicle. Well!!, this morning I log in and find our whole camps tents emptied and loot all over the ground and even some tents driven over!! I'm not looking for revenge on them this is just a game. I just want it on record what they've done to us so....if they ban us you will know what its really for! We don't hack or condone hacking!!!!! Thanks for everything you have a great mod and I can't wait for the stand alone to come out!! peace

i was always wondering why our camps and vehicles are always gone in less than 24 hours after we built them up. when i read about this ESP shit and saw some screenshots (just google, you'll find them very quickly) of ppl actually using it, then this is no surprise for me anymore. there are ESP's out there which allow you to see vehicles, survivors and tents over the WHOLE map. ESP is something like a much more powerfull magic rangefinder. thats just insane and makes it really pointless to me to play this game any longer. you cant hide camps, you cant hide vehicles, you cant even hide yourself from this. this really must be stopped. otherwise iam afraid that this game will be cheated to death some day. i experience this especially since the reintroduction of helicopters. my group has built up 6 or 7 choppers on different servers yet. not a single one stood longer than 24 hours where we parked it for the night.

Just to be sure, It is a better idea to save my gear in vehicles compared to tents?

Vehicles are still good. As far as I know, only certain tents and vehicles can store items across a reset. Before you toss all your goodies in a tent next time, put a can of beans in it and save it. Wait for the server to reset and if the beans are still there when you reconnect, go ahead and toss all your stuff in it.

stuff in my atv is still there though. are vehicles listed as bugged? any other way of storing my things?

So, I found a small tent city out in the outskirts and one of them was pretty loaded. AS50, NVGs, Rangefinder, Ghillie suit and a M4A1 Holo SD. No GPS, Entrenching Tool, or any vehicles so I can't say for sure if it was a hacker. I've never seen a M4A1 Holo SD (also has a M203 launcher) and they don't seem to have a page on either dayzdb.com or dayzwiki.com. If these are both unofficial sources, how am I supposed to know if this gun is legit? Can I keep it either way?

If it was just zombies it would be too easy, I certainly agree with you that playing with friends is fun but what is the point if there is little to no challenge? If you hoard all of the vehicles what happens next? There is no competition for anything so ultimately there is very little need to keep anything anyway. It sounds like the equivalent of killing the ender-dragon in Minecraft on creative mode. If this is how you want to play, good for you but please be aware that running a private server is against Day Z's terms and you are assisting the player-base that wants to take advantage of this mod and its mechanics for their own, selfish needs. Good luck to you kind sir.

,Hey there DayZ Community ;) Don't get me wrong,this thread isn't made to flame rocket,I really appreciate what he's doing,but I have to make this thread to see if I am really the only one who thinks like that...(Sorry for my english,I am german. ;D) Me and our clan have been playing DayZ since a very long time...but now my whole clan is very upset because of,as the title says,disappearing vehicles after server restarts. We tried it on so many servers and we never got ONE server where cars stay after restart... "No problem,I mean if rocket fixes it in the next patch!" My whole clan thought. But no...WOOF WOOF. I know the whole patchnotes aren't out yet,but this (in my opinion most annoying) bug is known a LONG time,and still no fix.....What do you guys think? Greetings,Deadtimee.

Wondering the same thing, as all tents/vehicles are saved on the Hive and inaccessible to server admins.

I personally find the current number of repairable vehicles fitting because if you look around there's a good 100:1 ratio going on for destroyed vs fixable that being very realistic for a post apoc survival setting then you add in the need for fuel. Currently on my server if you count the total of vehicles the server does have 50 vehicles 8 of them being bicycles that's being based on the active vehicle codes during peak hours

Tonight I was at the north eastern airfield making my way north to check the boundaries of the map. Past experiences have taught me this is a good place to find tents or vehicles. As I was running up a large hill I could hear vehicales in the distance slowly getting closer. So I found a pine tree to hide in and after a few minutes they stopped at the top of the hill I was climbing. I thought It best not to run in all guns a' blazing and climbed back down the hill spending the next 20 mins running around the base looking for a better vantage point. I eventually found a barren hill (yay no trees ~.~) that overlooked their campsite. http://i.imgur.com/VULbQ.jpg Once I crawled to a point where I could see I pulled up my binoculars to realize I had stumbled upon a clans stockpile. Easily a dozen tents along the tree line. I could see a few ATV & a Ural. I counted 7 players. Most of them were running to the vehicles then to a tent I assume going through loot. A couple others appears to be afk. It seemed like a good time as any. I checked the range just under 400. I waited until one of the guys who's been activly running around came to a stop then took my shot. Quickly moving to the next person standing still I fired again. At that point they've realized whats going on and the panic starts. I kill another guy who looks like hes trying to bandage a friend. -Reload- I feel sorry for the next guy who was still AFK didn't even see it commig ^_^ My surprise attack is over and now I'm left searching for movment. Not 30 seconds later I've lost connection to the server.... And the server is still down ~.~ Kinda makes me wonder if one of the players was a server admin who pulled the plug when I murdered him & his friends. This is their exact location if anyone wants to check it out when server 1662 comes back up. http://i.imgur.com/Y3Lu1.jpg

It may be that someone has commondere all of the vehicles and taken them off the map.

sounds right to me only thing rocket can do is black list them from the hive but who gives a shit anyway. I think servers should have there own hive anyway it will prevent asshole server hoppers and ghosters allow admins to better police there own servers. fuck this persistent world bullshit the only thing thats persistent about it is the players location and gear. people cant take vehicles with them or tents its stupid if you find a vehicle on a server or set up a base thats there server your gonna play on your not gonna play on another server.

Rocket mentioned he would like the ability for player owned bases, or the player to build a base or hideout (or something similar) and this got me thinking. What if you could construct a small fortification of sorts, a little place to call home, with a form of access control. Or even get a cave, small building in a city with a gate? I was thinking how this could work is, you could have access control cards (equipment / inventory slots) that grants access to your little hideout. These cards could be made / spawned by a device you can place somehwere on the inside to hand out to team mates or friends. Think of something like an ammobox you use to re arm, but instead you get one keycard, and you can only carry 1 keycard for each unique hideout or base. Then when looting other players, you could pick up their cards or keys to gain access to their bases /buildings, so it becomes vital to keep these cards or keys safe, and becomes a high value item to get from other players. Could add an interesting dynamic to the game if it can be implemented correctly. They could limit the storage space inside your area so you don't go around hoarding all the vehicles and weapons to keep it under lock and key, like have a vehicle shed that has a maximum of 2 jeep slots or 1 truck / bus, and for instance 2 bikes / bicycles with that. Your base and clothing could also be branded with something a team insignia of sorts as a form of identification.

When a server restarts and loads sometimes vehicles spawn in slightly in the air. This can cause cars etc to roll down hills. ATV sometimes bounce around because their physics appears to be that of black magic.

You would have hated UK8 yesterday. Started off sitting in a tree hearing lots of shooting in the school/supermarket area. I scoped it out waiting to see who it was. Suddenly two Ghillie'd bandits walk infront of me also waiting for him to pop out. I think I scored 18 murders that day, majority of them defending my vehicles stashed near Dobry ;)

I'd prefer a DLC-Mod thing rather than a stand alone. From a standalone perspective you could keep databases seperated, so if BIS decides to play with the weapons damage like last time it doesn't affect DayZ. From the DLC-Mod perspective you can still play vanilla and other mods with the same game you bought from the shelf. Making libmod a standalone was a bad idea imo...i would have bought it as a DLC, what kept me from buying the standalone was the lack of gear/vehicles that were in WW2 which made it look like a pre beta mod rather than a standalone and of course the bugs...

Thanks for the answers :) Alucardi: Our Vehicles have been missing forever,no restart fixed it! eStecko: Thank you,we will have to try this one out :)

Vehicles stay on the server they are found on.

Vehicled disappear when they are not saved ~5minutes before server restart. Another reason might be the vehicles are hacked and they will be gone after restart. Also previously there was a bug which made tents disappear after first restart, but they we're back in another, our camp looks quite messy now. Besides that, the server might not be running latest fix for vehicle save. (just a guess as i seen topic with similiar name)

So by now a lot of clans/groups have hoarded up their vehicles on servers and such. We have no vehicles currently, and are looking for at least one. Is there any way to tell how long a server has been up for? [As in, how long it has been since it was first on the server list?]

I feel that a huge contributer to the lack of trust leading to hostility is the lack of communication. Things like Global/Side chat made working out agreements between randoms much easier. These are things that can help. -Two direct chat variants "whisper" and "shout", Whisper works out to 50m, shout out to 200m. -Radios, similar to (but doesn't need to necesarily be as complex or realistic as) ACRE, so that players could scan frequencies and communicate agreements and cooperative action across chernarus "If anyone hears us, come to location X with your weapon lowered and announcing yourself on shout channel to meet up". -Vehicle loudspeakers, military vehicles like the V3S, UAZ, Huey, and military offroad could have loudspeakers used to send out warnings/messages out across longer distances than voice. An example would be a huey circling elektro/cherno disseminating information to player via loudspeaker.

Yeah satchel charges do spawn but are very rare so if there were loads of them then they could have been duped. Also the guy with the as50 could have been leaving the camp coming or back to the camp and then heard the vehicles and followed the noise, the ural is very loud.

Yes, that was caused by a crashed huey, it's a bug that can also be caused by other crashed vehicles, like my UAZ. Again, a crashed heli is not actually supposed to set the whole horizon on fire. IT'S A BUG!.

Doomsday is a great film, and this would be a brilliant addition to the game. SOMETHING needs to be done to keep vehicles inside the map! Id suggest if helis try and fly over the wall, give them a 30-60 second warning that if they dont turn back theyll be shot down by AA guns on the wall, just to give some leeway to people who accidentally stray over the boarder.