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DayZ is a side interest for D2A as we are primarily a Planetside outfit. We gain enjoyment from the game by raiding the camps of hoarders, so everyone on that server can have access to vehicles, not just the admins. We also do it to try to level the PvP playing field by limiting admins' access to ghillie suits, AS-50s, and L85s. It is our play style, and it is very unlikely that will change. I'm sorry if you feel that isn't fair.

I refer to it as that because I seen it happen from our chopper that was circling right above you. Lets see that youtube video btw We have tents and vehicles, no ammo crates. Why are you hating on something we decided to do for fun? If you don't like it fine fuck off and do your own thing or try and kill us.

Use the hatchet or something to harvest deployable bushes that can be used to hide tents and vehicles, or whatever else you wanted to hide.

Jester, OK, this is getting confusing. I don't have any vehicles, just tents. I suspect we are saying the same thing but for the sake of clarity... In 1.7.2.4, tents would sometimes only save items if you waited for a server restart. This, everybody has figured out. The problem is that in 1.7.2.5, tents do not save anything at anytime. The old work around of waiting for a server restart does not work anymore. I have tents that have been through dozens of restarts, no change. They don't work and there there is no way, that I can see, for me to get my tents to save anything now. Jester, do you agree or have you got some tents to work?

Yes... you "owned" us... by coming to a server you had no property on... how could you lose? we killed you guys numerous times in the process, but you had no camps for us to raid because you are strewn across multiple servers unlike us... So yes... you blew up our buses with satchel charges... how many of you died in the process?... We shut down our server because it was saturated in duped gear, broken spawns, and daily hacker encounters that resulted in us being teleported to thunderdome, throw into the sky, randomly have our mags fall out of our pockets and so forth.... We started a new server with mercenary level difficulties to discourage those who are not devoted to the game... We saw a dramatic drop in hacker occurrences for quite some time... I assume its because its harder for them to drive their spawned vehicles in first person without slamming into a tree or dying from zombies (as we saw D2A doing quite frequently when you first came onto our new server). So yes... you guys are l33t gamers that cannot make it past the 49 minute life expectancy in a mercenary difficulty server... you owned us, alright. The only thing you did to own us is blow up our vehicles while they were undefended... bravo... you guys are regular navy seals here... Why is it that you guys left after we made our new server?... you guys came to it... tried playing mercenary for a while... kept dying... and then disappeared for 2 weeks until we tagged the server as BBF again... you can't tell me that you didnt know it was our server when you came in with names like "[D2A] HEY BBF".... This is merely out of curiosity... why the sudden interest in coming back and causing problems? Did you guys run into trouble on another server as well? Want to try something new on us?

I find it pretty funny that you bring up the day that we found your "vehicle depot." In fact, we didn't find you, you found US. We were moving north and regrouping at the time. You drove your ural straight through both of our groups, it was near the dam if you recall. Obviously, we opened fire and killed you all. We then continued almost directly north, and ran straight in to your vehicles. To this day, that was the most fun that we have all had on this game. I am not going to give away our tactics for locating camps and scouring the map, because that would just be silly. However, hiding all of your camps/vehicles on the edge of the map is pretty obvious. We lterally had to go from the far northeast to the far southwest and found probably 8+ camps. You can stamp us as suspicious, and now that you have posted that I can see why, but it all boils down to the fact that you responded so violently. Shutting down a server because of us, really? In response to your vehicles turning in to different things as of late, I have no idea. We haven't even been playing on your server for the past week because it has been almost a ghostland due to your new settings (which I love, by the way!). We have been running together as a cohesive group for quite a while now. We are pretty good at what we do. I suppose we've had such a strong reaction to this specific event because of how you have treated our clan. You declared war, we brought war. Then you ran away and we followed. You banned me from your forums for no valid reason, we had great conversations on your teamspeak. I thought we were pals for a while, then one day I log on and apparently the gates of hell opened. Oh well, when the ban gets lifted we're going to have quite a bit of fun, to say the least. See you in game.

once measures are taken to prevent duping and infinite ammo exploits end-game will be significantly more difficult. AS50s will be impractical because the ammo will be far too rare. Same with many other "end-game" rare guns. Tents and vehicles won't be brimming with duped end-game guns and ammo.

1. I hear a voice behind me saying, "ooh thats a nice gun, L85", I hear the grass crunching under feet and scan for a survivor but there is none there, puffs of smoke tell me where he is from a silenced MP5 firing, about 10m from me. I unload into the empty space next thing I am shot to pieces. Funniest part: He says to me, "you fucking hacker," which is doubly hilarious because I picked the L85 up legit. This guy musta got upset cos he couldn't find a tent or a heli crash site and turned to haxoring. 2. I am on TS with a buddy, up around Petrovka, paranoid as hell because it is about 9pm local time but the server only has maybe 12 people on it. I hear something like a humming or a mumbling, I say, "you say something?" to my buddy, he replies in the negative, I log the fuck out. Funniest part: Screenshot the game takes when you log out shows a dude in camo uniform with a red beret on, carrying an AS50 TSW, right next to me, us literally side by side. I am still earning grey hairs. Conclusion: Haxors are pathetic. I love when BE posts a Game Hack Ban. $30 down the drain sucker. Even better when it is a name I recognise and played on the same servers with many times. Since I found an MK 48, and someone stole all the vehicles I stole, I cannot resist climbing on top of stuff to lay waste to zombies. That guy in the ghillie doing that reckless stuff could be me! I am fed up with searching the wilderness for a bicycle or motorbike when all I can find are brightly coloured cars that go 10kmph off-road, easy come, easy go. I do miss the Ural I found at the spawn point tho! It took me hours to fix it. Why it bright blue? *sigh* Be vigilant, be pure, behave!

Really, I think the last thing DayZ needs is something that you really care about getting shoot away by a sniper. First its the gear (Weapons, Tools, Suit, Food) then Vehicles and now a Dog, Its kinna sad and when you will lose your dog in a gunfight D:

As stated in the other post, if a DayZ admin says those scripts are harmless, I'll remove the ban. I've spent far too much time and effort dealing with hackers spawning in vehicles, killing everyone on the server, foliage hacking, map hacking, and every other type of hacking. I'm not going to take some random person's word for it however.

#3 is just stupid, there are plenty enough vehicles in the game as is, we don't need more.

I don't think there has ever been an issue with combat.. with D2A or anybody else, for that matter. The issues began to arise when you guys simultaneously located every hidden camp (we are talking NUMEROUS hidden camps) within minutes of each other... it was not coincidence you guys (and only a few of you) managed to find every single camp that quickly... yes this could be "speculating" as you say- but I don't think you could have found every campsite (which are located at extreme distances from each other on far reaches of the province) in the amount of time it took you. We had those camps for ages with no issue... we had a very populated server, to boot. Why suddenly when D2A shows up, do all our camps get ransacked simultaneously when never before had we had an issue with a server that was maxed out at peak hours every single day of the week?.. How is it that you always seemed to know where we were at any given time? We had a helicopter once... flew it thousands upon thousands of meters away from where you engaged us... then moved a second time after that, even... and yet when we left the LZ, we are ambushed in the middle of nowhere by every single one of you?.... how do you guys manage to cover such vast gaps of space as one unit even after half of you died in the first firefight? we were likely over 10,000 meters from any spawn point your dead comrades could have gotten... yet there you all were within 20 minutes to ambush us. There are countless instances to reference that are more than suspicious.... I'm all for gang rivalry and fights... plenty of other public guests on our server have expressed their enjoyment playing here and that they enjoy engaging us in firefights... Its also refreshing with them, because somehow they don't always know where we are everytime... or see us coming from 8km out. Or coming back fully equiped with AS50s and ghillies and vehicles even after you are killed... and somehow I come across a weapons crate spawned on the beach shortly after you guys log off for the night... I dunno... I just find it suspcious... we all do. I would define admin abuse as using his powers to disadvantage our guests and give us the upper hand... banning for the lulz, etc... we banned one member of your clan due to the scripts... if its proven that these are not hacked scripts, then it would be revoked... If it was a matter of hiding from you all, we would have banned all D2A from our server to "hide from you" as you say... If a higher up says "hey guys, these scripts are legit" then you will get our apology... but its our honest belief that these are suspicious scripts and we are holding out until it is verified... that is not abuse... Is taking someone to jail due to being a suspect abuse of power or a reasonable precaution?... This sounds more like a cryfest than anything else... if you truly are not hacking, this will get resolved and if we are abusing our power, our server will get shut down... We are willing to take that risk due to our convictions that you are not playing the game properly, as you claim to be doing. As far as the spawns go (to answer the question): ever since people, maybe you guys, came onto our server and started spawning their own vehicles- vehicles no longer spawn properly or persist through server resets.... I do not think winter is referring to his truck... We are referring to the fact that we just repaired a helicopter last night and flew it around- landed it.. saved it.. logged int oday... flew it some more... saved it... server restart came- and BOOM... helicopter is no longer there after server reset... this has happened numerous times with numerous different vehicles... No it is not user error, as we have been repairing and using vehicles for some time now... we understand the mechanics involved... What we don't understand is why our vehicles randomly decide to go from being a GAZ to a offroad pickup truck after server reset.... then next reset the truck turns into a bicycle... or disappears all together.... My only guess is that spawned vehicles from scripts has something to do with screwing up the vehicle count in the database and prevents them from spawning properly or persisting.... Again, i say... who knows... maybe you AREN'T hacking- but until these scripts are deciphered by someone who knows for sure... we are stamping D2A as highly suspicious.. we are willing to put our server on the line over this... so either be part of the solution.. or continue being a part of the problem... but keep in mind that we have not banned anyone else from this server without probable cause to do so... Lets grow up here.... theres plenty of other servers you guys can play on until this is resolved... if it is dropped, come on back and play with us all you want... you guys are awfully upset over something so minor... especially for being banned from a server you have no investments on... what have you lost other than your dignity on this forum right now?... chill out and let this run its course for now. Sincerely, A "hider"

1) Jump. I really hate it when I cannot jump in an FPS. To me, spacebar == jump. If WASD is cannon, then spacebar is jump. What if David Lee Roth starts urging me? Get it and crouch! Crouch! I understand some of the larger backpacks make jumping difficult, and this is a realistic sim, but... jump. 2) Bust a move. I've seen the dancing dying death animations as done by the elusive but everywhere hackers. Yet saluting seems more silly than illustrating your friendliness than busting a move in the apocalypse. Young MC would be proud. 3) More vehicles! Scarcity encourages hoarding IRL, hacking (nee duping) in 'replicators exist' land. More vehicles == less shenanigans. If I have to learn another 20 keyboard commands to drive, let me drive. 4) Ride them horses. Satisfies not only more vehicles, but presents a unique vehicle that is refuled with water bottles and wood piles and has blood. Can killfor meat. Consider the dynamic. 5) Fix the girls. No camo/ghillie? Are you nuts? 6) Opt to spawn next to someone. If they kill you fine, but you could start with a partner too. I only brought it to awesome. I'm sure forum members will make it atomic.

Same here. Just got vehicles today and after a server restart, they don't save correctly. i'm going to rollback to 1.7.2.4.

I'm really not trying to troll you, I'm simply stating the facts of the matter. I would have loved to talk to you about it, yet if you remember correctly after we found your camps you banned me from your forums (http://i336.photobuc..._WoW/banned.jpg) and I didn't bother even trying to log in to your teamspeak. If anything, you began the hostility, we simply finished it. Obviously us posting here is implying that we are denying the "charges." If you would like to believe that seeking out your camps and vehicles is trolling and not banditry, then yes I suppose we have been trolling you. Pretty hard, too.

Yes, obviously we are hacking because we found your camps/vehicles and took them. This makes a lot of sense. We came to the server looking for a fight, and all you did is accuse us of hacking and ran away. We followed you to your new server and continued to PLAY THE GAME on it. It's called being a bandit group, please read about the server hosting guidlines before you go on about how much you pay to run a server. You are attempting to drive us out, yet you are only further proving that you don't know what DayZ is all about. We're bandits, get over it. If you don't like the hardcore nature of your MERCENNARY server, do us all a favor and find a different game.

Search harder, they are there. I haven't seen many (but also haven't played much, and lately don't even play). But I have find them, both fixed and broken, and I always connect to random servers. I've read that a lot of people hide their fixed vehicles NW at the forests.

Not a single damned vehicle on any of them. Anybody got a server where ALL the vehicles aren't already being hoarded? Me and a couple of friends are looking for a server. All we ask is one truck. Even a dirtbike would be fine!

so this is brad i haven't posted any thing in this post before but i think its time to say something. ok well for starters i did betray my old group but my reason for doing so is that the group had taken in my eyes all the fun out of the game duping and alt f4ing out of danger restarting the server when we have problems with heli / what ever other vehicles we had so i found a new group of pepl that play legit so i told them about my old group and the stuff we had so we figured we would fraps them doing all the things that i was telling them thay should not be doing all tho not all the pepl in my old group were enjoying the non legit game play we were doing thay still chose to play with the group so all i can say for you pepl you know who you are im sorry for what i did but needed to happen to change the way the server was being ran hopefully the serer what ever the name is now will not be unfair to play on

Hello and welcome to all whom this may interest TopShelf is currently looking for mature players to help fill our ranks. We are a relatively new clan but we do have our own server and as we grow we will more than happily invest in a Vent/TS server. Tops Shelf is open to players of all types from the frequent to not so frequent players and the new to the well seasoned veterans, the only thing we ask is that you do not steal from or kill other clan members and that you are self reliant when it comes to collecting your own equipment we don't mind helping members out but it would be nice if you would show a little initiative and pick up a few items first. On a side note we do have vehicles and of course a camping site for surplus tools and weapons we find. If you are interested in joining us feel free to message me directly on the forum or on our Facebook page. (http://www.facebook.com/topshelfdz)

Skill, Experience, Amount of people int h group, age limit, what program is used to communicate, current gear, any camps setup, vehicles??

no proof theyre 4 days apart also youre still a server hopper just looking for bases, if that was the server you played on and didnt just hop to it to find a base, why would you destroy some of the best vehicles in the game and not just take them..

Only if you already had the item saved in the tents/vehicles before upgrading.

Im going to start a dayz group, the only requirements are to PLEASE be online often, and have skype. skype: Robert Steel/DentingHawk. the age limit will be 12 and up (and be mature, any people who are goofs will not be in this group). as long as you know what the hell you are doing (not being a noob) you are able to join. this group will have 6 to 12 people (max). like i said before we use skype or teamspeak so post your skype name or teamspeak server (i would preffer skype). anyway.... we are a bandit group, kill ANY others you see that are not in this group, BUT if i see anyone killing a survivor that just spawned/ no weapon, you will be punished. Be sure to share items and supplies, we must work as a unit and a team. i will not be a leader, but we will make group Decisions. Answer peoples questions when asked, i dont need people who don't communicate well with others in this group. so be sure to put your skype name or teamspeak server name so i am able to contact you. ps. please be American, (or any other countries with the same time zone as america are fine) it would be difficult if your 7 hours ahead of me. ATTENTION: please try to be on during the night, i might not be on as much this next week, im getting a new pc and i need time to set it up (skype name) Members: 1. Robert Steel (DentingHawk) location: elecktro 2. nate i location: unknown 3.Mason. watts location: unknown 4.Michael siy location: Stary sobor 5.PeanutRyno location: elecktro 6.Eric Murray location: unknown 7.also_cmjacka location: unknown objectives: [X] Find decent weapons [X] find location for base [X] get a good food/water supply [ ] setup base [ ] raid north east airfield [ ] find vehicles/ repair [ ] raid Berezino [ ] raid north west airfield (optional) [ ] find and kill survivors [ ] raid Balota [ ] raid Cherno hospital [ ] raid zelenogorsk more will be added once we have done all of these. feel free to suggest a few objectives. Tools for this game? map: http://dayzdb.com/map#3.032.100 a Dayz launcher (highly suggested): http://www.dayzcommander.com/

won't it simply respawn after restart? except for the vehicles offcourse.