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Save them more than once? and I'm no server admin but sometimes if you restart, vehicles don't show up until you restart again.

wow lots of questions. ok.....we found your camp because we flew over it. if you've ever been in a helicopter you know its not hard to spot tents, especially if there is a cluster of them. i usually like to fly around the western and northern perimeter as you can spot many camps that way. also what i noticed first was a hatchback next to your tents. when we came back the second time it was gone. like i said before, I was the pilot and have no idea why you couldnt see me. after you killed theron, i tried to take off but you hit the engine again so it powered down. I got out and ran down the hill and flanked around behind but because it took so long you fixed and flew off with the heli before i got around. i have only witnessed the invisibility thing that wasnt a hack once with a friend of mine. it wasnt a hack it was a glitch. i could only see his face, gun, and shoes. everything else was invisible. seemed like some kind of glitch where the clothes didnt load. not sure if this could have been the same problem. as to the heli repairing: i know that with things like the bus and some other vehicles, if you bump into something, sometimes you lose a wheel. if you get out and get back in, sometimes its magically repaired. i dont know why but seems to be just another dayz glitch. the problem with all the glitches is that its hard to distinguish a glitch from a hack sometimes

Need help! My gun randomly fires when i am not clicking the left mouse button, also happened in vehicles? my mouse is fine? does anyone know why this is happening and have a possible solution? Luckily i have a silenced assualt rifle, but when i dont eventually i dont want to be spotted etc by zombies and players. Thanks.

Death should suck, and skills or anything that can not be taken by another player should not be tied to your account becaues that would negate perma death, all it would do is reset your location... WTF is the point of content if there is no value in it, we're advocating for having things included just to have them? That makes no sense, if there is no point or so little value that people don't care if they have them then why even have that content in the game?? IMO Skills should be important, if your not "skilled" with a gun can you reload it in seconds or take it apart and clean it?? If you don't know how to drive a stick shift car are you making a quick escape with the car? Can any average joe jump in a chopper and fly it? Skills and what your skilled in should have some measurable effects, the balance is that you get to pick what ones you have and there would be some way to improve/learn them while playing the game. There is a huge difference in saying someone should not have an advantage because they play more and saying in a heads up fight there should be no difference. If you did not have tangible benefits from playing longer/more what would be the point this would simply be another pure FPS shooter like COD/Battlefield, where gameplay is jump in jump out and nothing really persists. So long as skills do not effect the amount of health or damage dealt then they have no effect on player conflict, if your better at aiming or can set up an ambush then you win at PVP, I to want this preserved because its part what I think is so appealinga and refreshing about DayZ. I think skills can be implemented in such a way as to have little to no effect on direct combat, but can have huge effects on surviving and indirect combat like reloading, weapon maintenence, piloting vehicles, etc.

This is getting ridicules where are the devs in the forums? where are the updates its been over 3 weeks (thats if you count that bullshit update called 1.7.5 that did nothing). This isnt a laughing matter where are the updates are the devs too busy sucking each others di**s? Honestly i know its an alpha/beta but this isnt my first time in the rodeo, i have played a ton of other betas and all of them have hard working devs working around the clock and updating within days to fix issues. To make matters worse the game consists of SERIOUSSS bugs that make the game unplayable that havent been fixed 3 weeks going now. Bugs like artrifects everywhere, tents/vehicles not saving. Its stupid how bad these guys are. GET UR ASS IN GEAR AND GET TO WORK. For those who want to troll let me answer a few questions before hand. This is only an alpha = Thats all the more reasons we should be seeing updates every other day This is a fan made game= Look at the amount of players playing this. Its time to hire a few extra people dont ya think? There is a standalone so they are working on that = That is no excuse for not working on the mod.. hire separate teams. Let me do the math for you. There 1147500 users each paying $30 each for this game. That totals to $ 34,425,000 dollars in 4 months of production in an alpha stage game that doesnt even have auto installer. There are companies that would kill to have those numbers and here you guys are completely wasting it. Im tired of seeing all the people quitting everyday because of ur too busy not doing anything. Again get ur shit together and fix the problems. The fact is if you dont fix this mod your standalone wont amount to much. Keeping the community happy should be more important right now then abandoning 1.1 MILLION fans (i say fans because you really need to be one to buy 2 games then manually downloading a mod)

My group actually prefers to not go player hunting except on certain occasions, but the current vehicle problems make fixing vehicles a pain and somewhat of a waste of time. With the duping problem breaking the balance it is not hard to gear up, and if you are like my group you made a camp that is now replicating itself (on accident we did not purposefully dupe gear) making high level loot runs somewhat of a waste. We fixed up a total of 9 cars this weekend and lost two to restarts and three to crashes, but we still have two offroad trucks, a hatchback, and a van but I expect all to be gone on server restart. So my question is what is left to do, kill zombies?

I will number you questions for ease. 1. Usually not. 2. The couple of times a vehicle survived a restart (out of 9 vehicles only 3 have survived) the gear never survived. 3. Do not think so. 4. Until server restart, if working properly for quite some time if alive and I think death it will wipe after restart if not saved. 5. Tents are very have big issues, but if you put a fresh tent down and put gear in the tent and save it only once it will probably survive a restart. In fact it will do something else weird but I will refrain from saying what because why make another duper. 6. It is supposed to, but considering they all disappear I have no clue. Finally, it was most likely a server bug, but you never know.

I don't mind surviving alone, stock piling ammo, and working on vehicles. When you do this all alone, it takes a lot more time.

yup my mate was messing around with his gear then scrolled his mouse and basically when he said threw a grenade he basically ment dropped it at his feet killing himself and me instantly. Yup 18 days of wandering the map and picking up better gear and repairing a few vehicles, gone in the scroll of a mouse.

Hey Desync, are there any vehicles left, as the server i was in restarted, making me lose my vs3 civilian with 8 camos, 2 ghillies, nvgs, rangefinders, 28 guns, as50etc. 25sd mags. Not happy. A reply would be appreciated!

I hate the idea of points, it's too much to balance, and it'll inevitably lead to a "right build" that everyone will copy and paste. No go. You want new abilities? Find a toolbox. As for spawning with your clan, that's not my cup of tea. If I had my druthers, I'd try to minimize players forming teams before starting to play. A big part of the game for me is being alone and having a chance to meet people who can help or hurt my chances. If I have a reliable team of helpers already lined up, then the risk/reward calculations for dealing with strangers is quickly skewed all the way over to "God will know his own". For the sake of the sociological experiment, I think the game might benefit from a "quick play only" kind of system, where you don't know where you'll spawn, who you'll meet or where your neighbor/brother/coworker is. You can't be sure your tent is on this server, you can't know where you left the Ural, you don't get to carry anything with you, either from the real world or from previous plays. Death is a huge problem then, and survival takes its rightful place at center stage. It costs you some, since you can't play with buddies you know, but you can play with buddies you meet. Letting people spawn in as a platoon just reduces the challenge and takes the focus away from surviving and puts it on... what? Hoarding loot? Massacring solo players and smaller groups? Fixing up all the vehicles and tucking them in the woods? The game gets crappier and crappier the better you do at it. The problem with DayZ is that it's too easy to reach escape velocity and leave the game behind. Then you're in some kind of dumb limbo, where you can't enjoy just staying alive anymore, your actions have no more reward to offer and all you can do is dick around. You spawn in, you tell your friends where you are, they send a guy on an ATV to collect you and you're geared up and in your shantytown within fifteen minutes. That's not easy enough for you? Even if you don't have a tent city and some vehicles, your buddies can meet you with a gun and a map and some food and drink and medicine within ten minutes from almost any starting point. You had something better to be doing during that time? You want to spawn in, take a 1911 and an AKM from a pal's pack and start sprinting for the NWAF?

This hacking is getting rediculous. you can't even join a server without getting spawn hacked, having vehicles and model hacks. This game could be so epic if everyone in the world didn't want to cheat. Can we please do something about this Thanks Myox

Normal or some kind of bug?Hard to lost the huey :-(

Last night me and my friend found an off-road pickup and a Ural. We fixed them up to drive-able condition and were having a great time with them. When we were going to sign off for the night we found a good spot to put them on the edge of the map, but I am pretty sure it wasn't outside the map. The pickup is small and easy to hide and I even found a great place for the Ural and it was very well hidden. So we saved the vehicles and left. Checked this morning and they were both gone. Luckily there was nothing of high value in them, mostly food and supplies. So these are my questions. Do vehicles survive server restarts? When you save a vehicle does the gear inside survive the server restarts? Does vehicle condition matter when you save it? How long does the vehicle stay where you saved it? Do tents survive? and how long do they last? does the gear survive? If you park a vehicle outside the map does it disappear? If someone found my vehicles I would actually be "O.K." with that rather then if I lost them due to some bullshit server bug. I highly doubt someone found them though. Any replies appreciated, Thanks.

Like I said I don't play DayZ anymore but good to know all you guys do is just sit on top of buildings and snipe thats all. Real pro, maybe you should actually go different places and fight instead of sniping like you are good. Anyone can camp and snipe, try actually doing operation of clearing each building as a team. As for hacked weapons, anyone can have one, because I found two tents on a random US server with AS50 thermals, holding a hacked weapon doesn't mean they are hacked in. I don't see Batman hacking in this video, I don't see any ZH members being kicked, I don't see any ZH members dying. I hate to break this to you, but 6-8 kicks in your video is not much, we regularly get 40 people on in a day. Also any spawned in vehicles disappear after restarts, in case you didn't know this. Also the grass/tree is not allowed, that was changed in the update to 1.7.2.5. FYI Helicopters rarely spawn on my servers. Apparently that was the very first one we actually found that is legit. Any complaints about the kicking can be put into server reporting, let Rocket deal with it, but I highly doubt they will do anything. All they are focused on is the standalone game. Even if they blacklist our server, I have two other servers, plus our very own private one.

Erm. How/why would it be easier to hoard vehicles exactly? Because you can't server hop between different woods to find player camps? If so, GOOD. That's just, eurgh. Horrible. And the fact that people who have more time to play find choppers more often, is already the case. I can't think of any circumstance in any game ever where playing less gets you less stuff than someone that plays more than you.

Yet another thread that blames the "nefarious admin" who is itching to scare everyone away from their server. No, it wasn't the admin. At least, not directly. Vehicles don't save in 1.7.2.5. Well, I should say sporadic behavior occurs. When a 1.7.2.5 server restarts, 1 of 3 things can happen to your vehicle. 1) It stays where it was saved (VERY rare) 2) A different vehicle of some random type appears where your vehicle had been 3) It's just gone entirely. In all cases, the gear inside is deleted and reset to whatever that vehicle spawns with (if any). In cases 1 & 2, the vehicle seems to inherit the repair state of whatever vehicle was there previously. There is no way that I can tell to influence whether 1, 2, or 3 occurs. Just that #3 is the most frequent result. Stop blaming admins anytime something odd occurs. Admins have no more power than you do to affect the in game world.

Thanks, don't really care that much. But do the vehicles switch places (so if somebody was hiding the bus, they'll return and find my truck?) I just logged back into the server and there is now no vehicle there... Meh, what can you do

All of my group's gear from pre 1.7.2.5 constantly respawns in tents, and we can't seem to get any new tents to save anything. Luckily, we had a stupid amount of gear pre-patch, but its a bummer we can't move our campsite (been raided numerous times). We've tried, but there's nothing we can do. We're not intentionally duping by any means, but the game has become too easy just knowing we can gear up after a restart if need be. Honestly, I'm for a complete hive wipe of all tents, would do the entire community some good, and get rid of the majority of duped weapons. I'm sure everyone on our server knows exactly where our campsites are at now, and everyone constantly raids them for gear. No hacked weapons, but we have NVGs/SVDs/5+ AS 50s, Ghillies, etc, all there were found legitimately off of players or crash sites. The duping is out of control, we really need a Hive wipe and force everyone to use what they got, and a fix for the tents and vehicles in general.

I'd turn up the heat up north, and perhaps nerf the southern area. This is actually amazingly accurate (in my opinion anyway) but places like Cherno and Elektro aren't as dangerous as they used to be. All the bandits have realised now that these cities are 90% filled with new people trying to get basic gear, meaning the bandits have rubbish loot, and that places up north such as Stary Sobor are much more frequented. Cherno and Elektro could almost be considered safe in servers with around 10-15 people (any more and it's probably still dangerous). But honestly, when I was in Stary Sobor some days back, and I was server hopping (sorry, I get impatient) for loot, I joined servers with only 1 or 2 people in. And, the weird thing is, in some servers with only one person in I still managed to find someone else in Stary Sobor and either shot them or was shot. Same thing at the airfield, but the airfield seems a little safer due to it's mass size. So, actually, I'd rate Stary as the most dangerous hotspot in DayZ because there are just so many people there. And it's also a good place to find a red or camo UAZ, a bus, and even a helicopter (I've actually seen a red UAZ, a camo UAZ and a bus there at once!). Also I'd add a new colour, maybe green or something? While yellow is mainly travel routes (I'd put that as true, I frequent the empty roads often and sometimes go off-road), green would be more dangerous and better looting than yellow, but then the danger and good loot are much rarer than in yellow. I'm saying that most large groups, or small groups, tend to set up their camps on the western and northern forest areas where very few landmarks exist and where very few people travel due to its lack of loot. It's also the place where hidden vehicles are likely to be found, especially if you travel at night. This means that, while finding hidden vehicles or camps would be time-consuming and quite a rarity, the actual loot yield would likely be way higher as people will be hiding their valuable military equipment and such here. So if you make an improved version of this map with an additional colour like I said and also more concentrated hotspots in the north, I think this would be pretty much spot on. Cheers! EDIT: Also, I couldn't help noticing the map seems to have an extended North barrier and that Grozovy pass's incoming road is coming from the East rather than from the South. Is this an outdated map where the world was different? I'm using this map - http://dayzdb.com/map

Yay, then people can just hoard vehicles even easier!!! And now you have to wait hours just to find a crashed helicopter because other people have more time to play than you...YAY!!!

Yeap 2.5 does not save what is in tents or vehicles. Contents revert back to what was there when server was upgraded from 2.4 to 2.5. Had plenty of stuff in tents. Now I just use it all on raids and guess what. When the server restarts it's all back. Nothing else to do. No need to loot or look for vehicles. Just Snipe at 1200m untill server admin who has white listed his ID in the battleye dll haxs me. LOL I deserve it. Sort of funny when haxer makes you dance and spin in circles before the kill you.

I have to agree that being an admin in this game is a horrible experience. I personally will be moving my server a private hive because the majority of the player base in this game nerd rage, when you are trying to help keep their experience pleasant. When a hacker telle's everyone on my server, or does anything rediculous, I instantly kick all players so that I can look through the logs, I have to screenshot the player screen so that I look up the guid's and look through the logs. I often restart the server to get rid of the hacked vehicles the spawn in. Why do I do this? To stop the hacker from killing you and to stop you from getting a hacked vehicle driving it into the woods and get stranded when it despawns. What do I get for trying to do this? Flamed on the message boards, my reddit and teamspeak blown up by people raging and just all out jackassery. Why would I post my teamspeak information and reddit contact information on my server MOTD if I just wanted to ruin your experience? I do that so people have a forum to talk to me and discuss things, instead they just get on swear at me or send me some awful message on reddit. it sucks, and makes the game way less fun for me. Personally when I take my server to a private hive, I know the quality players that I will be inviting. The rest of the community can kiss the service I provide goodbye. Why pay to get berated by immature people who don't understand that you are acting in their best interest? 'OMG I KILLED YOU AND YOU KICKED ME BLAH BLAH"...No you didn't kill me because I am still at my camp alive, far from any other players...but still they "Have screen shots" that they never post and they just blather on and on until you ignore them for 15 mins. Who wants that? Not me. It isn't the admins that are ruining this game, it is the players with this ridiculous sense of privilege that "they have the right" to play on your server. Where would this game be without us server admins that pay our own money to give you a service? No where, this mod would be dead as it has no private servers. I love the mod, I know it is Alpha, so I don't complain about the bugs. Rocket and his team need to realign their priorities before they chase the rest of the server owns to private hive servers or away from hosting all together. They won't be here without us... remember that.

I play on low pop servers (5 or fewer players). Since I started doing that I haven't been haxxed. The PvP there is extremely anemic though, and pretty much I only find other players at the airfields. So at this stage the mod has become pretty PvE heavy for me. I don't mind it too much considering. I'd rather do target practice on zeds than deal with the frustration hackers/alt-f4ers in PvP. The idea of building a base or repairing cars is gone- nothing saves. I do have some fun zerging into Cherno or Elektro on a fresh spawn. I agree that the alpha test is done. Seems as though over the last month known bugs have only gotten worse. If there are new bugs it's hard to isolate them from the long-standing bugs. The hax and scripts thing is just a tough cookie to chew. The recent bans/people just getting bored I think are the only thing we can really count on there. It's always going to be present in the mod, at least to some degree. The other stuff needs to be fixed last week. The graphics glitch/deletion of tents/vehicles/inventory is tedious and taxing my will to test further.

It's fairly easy to makeup baseless accusations, I could just as easily say that CSA are cheaters and scriptkiddies and it hold as much merit as your claims. I guarantee you if you could give some proof it'd be handled appropriately. Every time I've been on we've busted ass to repair vehicles and setup camps with legitimate goodies we've scavenged, no spawned vehicles or weapons. If individuals are doing so I'm sure it's on their own accord, as it sure as hell isn't promoted by the higher ups or encouraged. There's over 100 people in ZH, so there's bound to be a few bad apples (although they don't stick around long if they are). With that said, and speaking solely for myself, I play to have fun and do just that. If I needed an ego boost I'd go drag some people around in basketball or paintball or something that actually requires physical talent. Clicking a mouse and maneuvering pixels "better" than another group/person doesn't really make me feel all special. But if that's your gig, and you feel better about yourself by thinking you "sweeped" some other people (which in your video none of them were even ZH) then have at it. I don't really have anything else to say on the matter, so whatever floats your boat have at it, just stop trying to trash ZH as it's making you all look bad.