Sniper Rifles and Sniper Role Changes.

[jdz (DayZ) 238]

The M14 isn't a fucking sniper rifle... It's an assault rifle with extended range.

And yes, I am well aware the DMR and M14 are essentially the same gun but the M14 is not a sniper rifle

Edited September 26, 2012 by jdz

[chris p. bacon 182]

The M14 isn't a fucking sniper rifle... It's an assault rifle with extended range.

And yes, I am well aware the DMR and M14 are essentially the same gun but the M14 is not a sniper rifle

Sniper rifles aren't defined by whether or not they have a scope.

[jdz (DayZ) 238]

Derp, of course not, it would be a sniper rifle and scope other wise...

The difference between the M14 and DMR is the barrel, the DMR is a lot more accurate because of the barrel

[FallingSkies 12]

Kills vs Hits :- Most of the Sniper Rifles take more than one shot to kill, this forces people into the AS50 and M107, I think this is a bit stupid and bottle necks people into those two guns when the other rifles should also be killing in one shot, but I understand that some guns need to be weeker to offer progression.

I suggest and would like that all other rifles get a buff to their damage, at the moment they all do around 8k, I would like the 8K to be the starting damage and then have the damage go up per Rifle like the example bellow.

• M14 AIM - 8k
  
• CZ 550 - 9k
  
• DMR - 10k
  
• M24 - 10.5k
  
• SVD 11k
  

in Addition a single shot damage over =>9k should instantly knock out the player it hits, if a sniper hits some one their going to get knocked on their ass no one is just going to run it off like they can at the moment, so knock them out for 30 seconds.

I really like this idea of buff damage, but I think the base should be around 9k or 10.5k. Snipers are the deadliest people on the battlefield. A single shot from over a mile away kills a man. Most snipers are 1 shot kills to the chest. A .300 Win Mag at 500M has around 3500 kinetic energy, equal to a car hitting you at 30mph. Pretty amazing. So, I do believe they should be buffed up!

+1!

[bazbake 456]

Sorry to use BF:BC & BF3 as analogies, but remember when people used to have organised attacking and defending squads? Man, that was fun wasn't it? And remember when it got to the point that every fucker just went recon and sat in a hedge for fucking hours dragging a game out while they only get a score of 200 due to a lucky marksman headshot? Thats what the player base has done in Dayz as well.

There seems to be this meme that states 'Dressing like a bush and hiding is 733t.' Well, no, its not. Its fucking dull. What is '733t' is fucking flanking people, being as deadly with a Mak as you are with a M16, having adaptable strategy.

Um. Yeah, what this guy said. Although when you say "being as deadly with a Mak as you are with a M16," that only applies to games where the Makarov doesn't do 1/3rd the damage of the M16.

I really like this idea of buff damage, but I think the base should be around 9k or 10.5k. Snipers are the deadliest people on the battlefield. A single shot from over a mile away kills a man. Most snipers are 1 shot kills to the chest. A .300 Win Mag at 500M has around 3500 kinetic energy, equal to a car hitting you at 30mph. Pretty amazing. So, I do believe they should be buffed up!

+1!

Snipers are deadly because snipers are deadly. Snipers are not deadly because their guns are deadly. Otherwise we would just outfit the military with sniper rifles and call it a day.

You already have more than enough firepower to dominate as a sniper in this game. Your weapons do unrealistic damage and have incredible range, accuracy, and stability. If you're not kicking ass as a sniper, it's not the weapon's fault, it's your fault.

If you keep missing, then maybe you should start shooting at 500 meters instead of 1500 meters. It's not like anyone without a sniper or battle rifle will be able to shoot back at you.

Edited September 27, 2012 by BazBake

[Katana67 2907]

Gotta' love this pseudo-moral high-ground that people take against sniping, like it's just the equivalent of beating baby seals. Sure, don't cater to one playstyle... but idiot gamers will always hate on sniping.

Why?

Because they fail to realize that it is -designed- to be unfair, irritating, and a nuisance. If it wasn't based on a severe advantage differential (stealth, distance, caliber, etc) it wouldn't be sniping... it would be shooting at people in the middle of a field facing each other. Which, simply isn't done anymore.

Sure, make it harder to snipe (I guess) just don't ruin it for those who aren't so influenced by the mere emotion of "Dawww, sniping sucks! No fair! They must be 1337 uber-gamer nerds who only want a good K/D". Or maybe, they're just smart and like to minimize risk?

Get over it. Offer opinions on how to change what you want, please don't use moronic and unfounded "gamer" cliches about why sniping is somehow a bad thing.

[enforcer1975 1111]

Sniper rifles aren't defined by whether or not they have a scope.

You are right...everyone seems to be confused in that matter. Only because it has a scope doesn't make it a sniper rifle. The only true sniper rifle would be the M24 with it's classic design, all others would be designated marksman rifles excluding the M107 / AS 50 which would be anti material rifles with a secondary role in counter sniping. And the CZ 550 is a civilian hunting rifle, everyone who read the class names or the logs will se that is is designated as a "huntingrifle".

[Taiphoz 95]

Snipers are deadly because snipers are deadly. Snipers are not deadly because their guns are deadly. Otherwise we would just outfit the military with sniper rifles and call it a day.

You already have more than enough firepower to dominate as a sniper in this game. Your weapons do unrealistic damage and have incredible range, accuracy, and stability. If you're not kicking ass as a sniper, it's not the weapon's fault, it's your fault.

Sorry but your way wrong, show me another human being in the world that has been shot at 1000 meters by ANY sniper rifle and did not get either killed or instantly knocked out, the number of people you could find would be so infinitesimally small I would need the LHC to read their names.

Guns kill, people. but an SVD, DMR anything under an M107 needs to take a number of shots before they down a player how is that IN ANY SHAPE OR FORM realistic, I am sorry but thats BULLSHIT and nothing more than the devs trying to balance out their power based on perceived value to the player base, ie the more damage the better the gun.

An SVD Camo or a DMR will kill you instantly and blow a hole in your chest the size of a grown mans fist if shot and hit , as for having a better aim.

SNIPERS DO NOT AIM FOR THE HEAD.

They aim for the body where they know they have the highest chance of sucess in hitting their target, only an IDIOT is going to go for a head shot over 800 meters, its stupid to even try, specially on a moving target.

Bottom line is that sniper rifles need more damage its stupid to get shot 2 or 3 times by any sniper rifle.

[enforcer1975 1111]

Sorry but your way wrong, show me another human being in the world that has been shot at 1000 meters by ANY sniper rifle and did not get either killed or instantly knocked out, the number of people you could find would be so infinitesimally small I would need the LHC to read their names.

Guns kill, people. but an SVD, DMR anything under an M107 needs to take a number of shots before they down a player how is that IN ANY SHAPE OR FORM realistic, I am sorry but thats BULLSHIT and nothing more than the devs trying to balance out their power based on perceived value to the player base, ie the more damage the better the gun.

An SVD Camo or a DMR will kill you instantly and blow a hole in your chest the size of a grown mans fist if shot and hit , as for having a better aim.

SNIPERS DO NOT AIM FOR THE HEAD.

They aim for the body where they know they have the highest chance of sucess in hitting their target, only an IDIOT is going to go for a head shot over 800 meters, its stupid to even try, specially on a moving target.

Bottom line is that sniper rifles need more damage its stupid to get shot 2 or 3 times by any sniper rifle.

First, if you are not hit at a vital spot you don't die instantly. I'm sure it will hurt and it might even take some time before you get up depending on how hard you were hit.

But if you actually followed some posts or use a bit common sense you might wonder why players have 12k blood...the normal entity has around 5k "blood", the blood level was modified by rocket - for whatever reason i don't know.

[Steak and Potatoes 13480]

I approve of more damage applied to other rifles the force applied through these rifles in real life terms is enough to drop a human