NewYawk 23 Posted September 19, 2012 I've been playing first-person shooters online since Duke Nukem and in all the games with decent anti cheats, hackers are fairly uncommon or at least, not invincible. I usually find,m in most shooters like cod or bf3 that players using cheats / hacks really aren't good players as they obviously rely on their hacks and not skills.I fell in love with dayz but have finally stopped playing since it takes days for me to build camps / vehicles etc and it takes seconds for some group of putzes to teleport in and satchel charge everything. Lame that it ruins a great game but it is what it is.I can't wait for the standalone that will get the majority of these little bastards. Every time I played a game with constant anti cheat updates, I would always see these players on my servers with good scores on average turn into the worst players on the server... It was tell tale at least until their hacks were updated. The day the stand alone comes out will be like christmas morning when all hackers are totally helpless and getting ass pounded for being the pricks they are and never learning how to really play the game. I just hope they really do what they say and make it solid otherwise there is no long term hope for the game.Rant done. Had my fill of dying via hacker for the 50th time. Hurry up with that stand alone! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
motocross 49 Posted September 19, 2012 The day the stand alone comes out will be like Christmas morning when all hackers are totally helpless and getting ass pounded for being the pricks they are and never learning how to really play the game. I just hope they really do what they say and make it solid otherwise there is no long term hope for the game.HAHAHAHAA, fuck, this, this and a little bit more of this. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
liu.hy89@gmail.com 2 Posted September 19, 2012 What I don't understand is how the Standalone will somehow eliminate all hackers. What anti-cheat will they be using? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SystemiK 366 Posted September 19, 2012 If you think you are going to play the standalone free from hackers, you are dreaming. There will always be some level of hacking in this game, it's unavoidable. What you have to look forward to is a massive reduction in the amount of hacking (and types of hacks which we are seeing now). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
camycamera 36 Posted September 19, 2012 why do people hack in this great game anyway? WHYYY? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavalin 90 Posted September 19, 2012 Was playing a few nights ago, trying to get a merry band together. A guy starts talking smack in side chat (Private hive) about "quick" scoping someone. Not very long after that Battle eye bans him and someone else for hacking. I don't think I grinned so much yet on this playing. Was literally just a few minutes after he'd sniped someone offering to help people on the coast Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaysGoodLiquor 93 Posted September 19, 2012 If you think hacking will not be an issue in standalone, you're naive and have probably not played a lot of multiplayer games on PC. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mandalore (DayZ) 76 Posted September 19, 2012 What I don't understand is how the Standalone will somehow eliminate all hackers. What anti-cheat will they be using?They won't allow scripts to run at all.If your client is different / sending different packages than what it should it will be found instantly.Arma II currently does neither, which is why it's so easy to cheat and why so many pussies do it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewYawk 23 Posted September 20, 2012 If you think hacking will not be an issue in standalone, you're naive and have probably not played a lot of multiplayer games on PC.I suggest you actually read my post. I have played many games throughout my 40 years, including pong. I understand that people who buy hacks are a part of the game, even the ones with EXTREMELY tight anti cheats like COD or BF3. The point I think that I need to restate: Rocket had mentioned there was going to be a heavy focus on deterring cheaters and I hope he has the where with all to do it.Aimbots, wall chams / skins, infinite ammo, god mode... sure I can see people using these but as long there is no "teleport anywhere, see everything, spawn everything, nuke the entire server" I can deal with the rest. Why? As i mentioned in my previous post... hackers generally are SUCKY players. I have seen how bad they are after repeated punkbuster updates when their hacks were caught and they had to disable them or get banned. They go from an average score of 40 - 5 to a steady 2 - 75 on every map (until their hack site updates them).You cant have a game that takes days to get real momentum and weeks to build up a base only to have it instantly brought down in seconds by someone who pops a hack map up, sees all your stuff and where you are and POP, wipes it all out of existence. The only way he can combat most of the really damaging hacks is to make sure certain things arent included in the production of the standalone (most hacks are built off cheats put into the games by devs to make developing easier) and with FREQUENT and solid updates to your anticheat. Also, having a multi layered anti cheat is certainly a solid way of making it extremely tough for someone to get away with hacking for long (especially with people taking videos and posting them in a cheaters section).Lastly, they need to purchase these hacks. See how they are bypassing battleeye and any cheat detections and create a trap for that system. Once you get a few 1000 hackers using the 5 or 6 out there they purchased... well, lets just say that these teens dont have the money to keep buying copies. Hardware bans are a great way of stopping cheats in their tracks for a long time.They will get the hacks that totally destroy the game, leaving room for only elite hackers and subscription services that make it hard for you to hide, etc. All livable to me as long as 3 hackers dont spawn into may camp and throw friggin satchel charges on everything 20 times without having a chance of getting nailed for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites