QQ Admins - Lingor - (Slap server)

[Phantasm (DayZ) 57]

Just a warning for those looking for a Lingor server. Apparently when killing their admins you'll quickly be banned. Typical 12yr old response. Work on your aim Grimdore.

Edited September 8, 2012 by Phantasm

[intensity (DayZ) 312]

As frustrating as that might be, some "legit" play styles can be just as bad. Server hopping into position, farming etc. It's not really playing the game the way it's meant to be played. Neither is admin abuse but there is one fact that's hard to deny; The server belongs to them, and they can do what they want on it period. Continually being an admin douche will not diminish the server numbers as the mod is so damn popular.

Edited September 8, 2012 by intensity

[Phantasm (DayZ) 57]

As frustrating as that might be, some "legit" play styles can be just as bad. Server hopping into position, farming etc. It's not really playing the game the way it's meant to be played. Neither is admin abuse but there is one fact that's hard to deny; The server belongs to them, and they can do what they want on it period. Continually being an admin douche will not diminish the server numbers as the mod is so damn popular.

I agree of course, to be honest I find it hilarious. If killing someone makes them cry that much to admin ban me, I'm quite happy they died. I'm just warning others in advance to expect little kids crying about losing a gunfight they initiated, then receiving an admin ban while you're looting their corpse.

Edited September 8, 2012 by Phantasm

[KennyNZ 121]

There's really no excuse except "i had to ban you because my penis is just too small."

[beowolfschaefer 14]

Just because you had a server with a shitty admin is no reason to call us all out. Come to the Shacknews Lingor server. I can guarantee you will not be banned unless you are extremely offensive, spamming VOIP, or hacking.

[daze23 549]

hmm... I liked that server

[Phantasm (DayZ) 57]

Just because you had a server with a shitty admin is no reason to call us all out. Come to the Shacknews Lingor server. I can guarantee you will not be banned unless you are extremely offensive, spamming VOIP, or hacking.

I was calling out the admins on a specific server. Blanket assumptions are silly and I know there are many other servers out there without little cry baby admins, I was simply warning others looking for a server to just avoid this one.

[bodha 7]

I was calling out the admins on a specific server. Blanket assumptions are silly and I know there are many other servers out there without little cry baby admins, I was simply warning others looking for a server to just avoid this one.

Hmm, did some digging you got a 1 week ban for global voice. Basically you killed one admin which was fine and all, but then proceeded to taunt him using voice over the side channel and server rule is no using global voice period. Another admin gave you that 1 week ban. We are very aggressive about not using global voice for any reason. By the way, if you had just written the stuff, you wouldn't have gotten the ban.

oh and your right about his aim sucking.

Edited September 10, 2012 by bodha

[logan66 3]

Sorry, bodha, but I and entire crew of 7 can confirm admin power tripping. Certainly you can make whatever rules you want, like no one can question the sensibility of the apparent rule of "no hiding bodies". And you can kick people for questioning the fairness of admin kicks. But, we can also make sure other players know how you choose to run your server.

BTW, we have the whole thing on video.

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And just to be clear, I'm not complaining about my kick, since I asked to be kicked after the admin started power tripping.

Edited September 12, 2012 by logan66

[patluk@sasktel.net 1]

I concur, avoid Slap Private DayZLingor, power tripping dickless admin, pointless to play on.

Don't play on this server. The rules got weirder and weirder. From kicking people for just shooting, to banning people for DRIVING VEHICLES. Then there were more weird rules coming down. No hiding corpses. Everyone just merely asked "Why?" and got kicked. All I said was "Wow, dis admin be crazy" and got kicked. I came back and spat some venom in chat and of course immediately got banned.

Anyways avoid this server at all times, the crazy power tripping admin is using it just to justify the size of his miniscule micro-cock so your amount of fun is going to be inevitably limited by this dumbass. Just pick a different server and save yourself the time.

EDIT: He never once actually banned anyone that was ghosting or combat logging. No decent bans were handed out ever. There was much ghosting going on, so I imagine it was all a cover up for his buddies.

Its on my twitch channel twitch.tv/gorgenzola for 9/11/2012

Edited September 12, 2012 by gorgenzola1

[bodha 7]

You guys wouldn't happen to be the guys who hopped on and stated up front you were videoing it all and then proceeded to make asses of yourselves were u?

none of my friends ghost, and when I catch ppl ghosting I ban them tyvm. Tbh catching ppl ghosting is not the easiest thing but when I do get reports of ghosting I investigate. I also ban for hacking, burying other ppls corpses, placing barbwire, and continued use of global voice. Most bans are of the global voice variety b/c ppl tend not to get it even when you kick them. I think the incident you are talking about is the guys rolling around in the vehicle that was hacked in. Idc who has a vehicle that was legit, but if it gets hacked in and I find you in it I'm banning your ass. I told the ppl driving it up front to get out and they insisted they just found it. Incidentally I'm fairly certain one of them was the guy I killed with a full clip of dmr to the chest at point blank range. Got to love ppl who dont die when to the first few hits, but survive long enough for you empty a clip, kill u, and then they bleed out.

It is a private server and I post very clearly do not bury other ppls bodies. Im very clear when asked that u can take the stuff off it and toss on a zed to bury, or just take it all. JUST DONT BURY OTHER PPLs corpses!!! Yet for some reason that was a problem for you guys. One of you was involved in a firefight and the guy who returned to it finds his body gone. Reminder of the rule goes out and then you guys complain about it. Dont like the rule go elsewhere.

took a minute to watch your video, nice, but you seem to be covering the chat where you are typing away about how the rules are bs etc. you dont stop bitching and eventually get kicked for it.

On a side note it is a lingor hive server so you should be able to continue where you left off at on someone elses server. Have a nice day

Edited September 12, 2012 by bodha

[Graz (DayZ) 146]

Incidentally I'm fairly certain one of them was the guy I killed with a full clip of dmr to the chest at point blank range. Got to love ppl who dont die when to the first few hits, but survive long enough for you empty a clip, kill u, and then they bleed out.

That's latency related mainly. I suppose it's possible a bored sctiper decided to write one that makes you last just long enough for you to die and after the reports of your server maybe that will happen.

It is a private server and I post very clearly do not bury other ppls bodies. Im very clear when asked that u can take the stuff off it and toss on a zed to bury, or just take it all. JUST DONT BURY OTHER PPLs corpses!!! Yet for some reason that was a problem for you guys. One of you was involved in a firefight and the guy who returned to it finds his body gone. Reminder of the rule goes out and then you guys complain about it. Dont like the rule go elsewhere.

I have to ask why? Enforcing something like that is nearly impossible, who buried the body? It doesn't come up on logs and the mach 1 eyeball won't do much good.

[cash4gold 20]

Its been mentioned a few times on these forums now. Bad admins are bad.

SLAP says you aren't allowed to use voice, but instead of being competent enough to just disable voice, they ban people for it. Well some bandit killed me and looted my body. I was pretty well geared. he got excited and bragged in voice... and consequently got banned for it. I then typed "Aww that sucks. Was hoping to find him and get my gear back".

5 seconds later, I get banned from the server too, for no reason at all. Seriously, what the fuck is that?

They were the straw that broke the camels back for me when it comes to servers with crap adminsitration. After dealing with bad experiences for a couple nights in a row with bad adminsitration, or total lack of adminsitration, I started my own server and it is doing pretty well.

My server is also Lingor on Vilayer Hive, so your gear and place will be saved if you want to look elsewhere to play. I assure you I am not 12 or get butt hurt when legitimately killed and start swinging the ban hammer. Unless someone is hacking, I issue warnings if there is something that needs to be addressed. Itchy trigger fingers on the ban button is not my style. Unlike SLAP, I want people to feel welcome in my server and have fun.

Edited September 12, 2012 by cash4gold

[RedNome 443]

Edit: Wrong thread.

Edited September 12, 2012 by RedNome

[bodha 7]

Its been mentioned a few times on these forums now. Bad admins are bad.

SLAP says you aren't allowed to use voice, but instead of being competent enough to just disable voice, they ban people for it. Well some bandit killed me and looted my body. I was pretty well geared. he got excited and bragged in voice... and consequently got banned for it. I then typed "Aww that sucks. Was hoping to find him and get my gear back".

5 seconds later, I get banned from the server too, for no reason at all. Seriously, what the fuck is that?

They were the straw that broke the camels back for me when it comes to servers with crap adminsitration. After dealing with bad experiences for a couple nights in a row with bad adminsitration, or total lack of adminsitration, I started my own server and it is doing pretty well.

My server is also Lingor on Vilayer Hive, so your gear and place will be saved if you want to look elsewhere to play. I assure you I am not 12 or get butt hurt when legitimately killed and start swinging the ban hammer. Unless someone is hacking, I issue warnings if there is something that needs to be addressed. Itchy trigger fingers on the ban button is not my style. Unlike SLAP, I want people to feel welcome in my server and have fun.

you know not a single person has told me how to disable voice on global w/o disabling it also for direct. Ive asked other admins, none have a solution for this. The guy you mentioned getting banned had already been warned several times over other issues, kicked, and yet he continued to use global voice. It was the last straw so he got banned.

Edited September 12, 2012 by bodha

[bodha 7]

That's latency related mainly. I suppose it's possible a bored sctiper decided to write one that makes you last just long enough for you to die and after the reports of your server maybe that will happen.

I have to ask why? Enforcing something like that is nearly impossible, who buried the body? It doesn't come up on logs and the mach 1 eyeball won't do much good.

1. The guys who tend to keep having this happen to them also ten to be the ones talking a whole lot of smack on the server, racking up 10+ kills per hour and somehow always getting reequipped completely within 5 minutes of dying.

2. You are right its next to impossible to enforce if everyone on the server was against it, but amazingly I have a lot of ppl playing on my server who like that rule and do enjoy how it changes the game. Now ppl regularly can see the killing grounds through binocs, you can also quite often see if the corpse still has a gun worth running in for or not. Also the killer rarely picks up everything, instead grabbing what they need and moving on. I've had 2 bands of players fight for hours trying to recover corpses. You dont get that when one side can simply hide the bodies.

Oh and for all the ppl complaining on these forums about slap servers I do find it funny that my server keeps going up on gametracker rankings. Seems a lot more ppl like it than dont.

Edited September 12, 2012 by bodha

[cash4gold 20]

The guy you mentioned getting banned had already been warned several times over other issues, kicked, and yet he continued to use global voice. It was the last straw so he got banned.

Really? Because I was in there for almost 24 hours and only saw him get warned right before he was kicked. Then he came back in and his mic came on but he didn't say anything and was banned.

And I still don't see any justification for me getting the boot. Keep back pedaling all you want now that you got called out publicly, it doesn't change the fact that your server is adminsitrated by people with the mentality of a grieving nerd raging 12 year olds who like to abuse the powers of admin when it suits their fancy.

Edited September 13, 2012 by cash4gold

[bodha 7]

Really? Because I was in there for almost 24 hours and only saw him get warned right before he was kicked. Then he came back in and his mic came on but he didn't say anything and was banned.

And I still don't see any justification for me getting the boot. Keep back pedaling all you want now that you got called out publicly, it doesn't change the fact that your server is adminsitrated by people with the mentality of a grieving nerd raging 12 year olds who like to abuse the powers of admin when it suits their fancy.

If I remember correctly you went off about how you didnt like the rules and our rules were stupid etc. After watching u spam the chat for a bit one of the admins figured you simply didnt want to be here anymore so he helped you get on your way. :)

[daze23 549]

SLAP says you aren't allowed to use voice, but instead of being competent enough to just disable voice

i don't think that's possible. if anything, I imagine it would also prevent people from using voice chat in the direct chat channel

that being said, I think admins should avoid making rules that are outside the norm and hard to enforce. it just turns into a mess

[bodha 7]

i don't think that's possible. if anything, I imagine it would also prevent people from using voice chat in the direct chat channel

that being said, I think admins should avoid making rules that are outside the norm and hard to enforce. it just turns into a mess

the rule is easy to enforce. I kick ppl when they use global voice, after that I ban. Usually the problem if there is one is when the friend they came in with starts raging about me banning for global voice. 2nd banned person solves that.

Now not burying bodies is really hard to enforce tbh, but the players who play on the server start to see that as a game in and of itself. Firefights result in 2 groups having a keen interest to come back and recover corpses, knowing there are other ppl camping there trying to get at them. Had a running gun battle last night at a river crossing SW of maruko which lasted long enough for a 3rd group to get involved. Was pretty funny how many ppl got pulled into that over the simple fact that you can see all that loot just sitting there. Now ppl who aren't regulars dont understand it, but if they hang around they get to liking how this simple rule can lead to some very interesting situations. Main thing though is you start to see firefights in odd places that get ppl fighting in unusual places rather than in the same old ganking spots.

[daze23 549]

the rule is easy to enforce. I kick ppl when they use global voice, after that I ban. Usually the problem if there is one is when the friend they came in with starts raging about me banning for global voice. 2nd banned person solves that.

Now not burying bodies is really hard to enforce tbh, but the players who play on the server start to see that as a game in and of itself. Firefights result in 2 groups having a keen interest to come back and recover corpses, knowing there are other ppl camping there trying to get at them. Had a running gun battle last night at a river crossing SW of maruko which lasted long enough for a 3rd group to get involved. Was pretty funny how many ppl got pulled into that over the simple fact that you can see all that loot just sitting there. Now ppl who aren't regulars dont understand it, but if they hang around they get to liking how this simple rule can lead to some very interesting situations. Main thing though is you start to see firefights in odd places that get ppl fighting in unusual places rather than in the same old ganking spots.

yeah, I was talking about the burying bodies thing. that's why I said "outside the norm". it seems most people don't like voice in side-chat

I was playing on a utes server the other day that was trying to enforce no-pvp zones, and it was a mess. it was a lot of he-said-she-said, and the admin ended up getting mad and kicking everyone :D

[bodha 7]

yeah, I was talking about the burying bodies thing. that's why I said "outside the norm". it seems most people don't like voice in side-chat

I was playing on a utes server the other day that was trying to enforce no-pvp zones, and it was a mess. it was a lot of he-said-she-said, and the admin ended up getting mad and kicking everyone :D

lol, no-pvp zones. Forget it. Hell Ive had my camp raided multiple times. Had ppl steal my car. Ive had ppl shoot me while I'm tabbed over to do rcon admin stuff. Funny thing though. The guys who were playing on the server a lot, even the ones who shot me on sight enjoyed the way it was. Did I have ppl rant at me over the rules? Yeah, but I just kick/ban them and they come over here to complain. Did I care? Not really. If they want to rant thats fine. I have no problem with them playing their way on another server that I'm not paying for. If they came onto my server though they were going to abide by the rules. If I caught you not abiding by them... I quickly show them the door.

Kind of feel bad for cash4gold. He pulled his server down today and I began pulling mine down over the same issue. Unrelenting hackers have ruined the vilayer hive. I've had a very lengthy back and forth with them today about it and the responses I got were pretty entertaining.

I was told I can't password.... but I can ban everyone if I want to as they enter my server. The reason for no passwording was that it would lead to bad admins "infecting" the hive. I'm thinking are they serious? Do they not realize that the problem is already happening?

People just hack the stuff on server A and then go to server B to play. If they get banned from server A who cares? As for getting them on the community ban list that isnt going to happen unless the log files show whats in those magical backpacks the vehicle log shows AND the admin is on the ball for that server.

Are they ghosting? why ghost to a passworded server? Why not just go to the numerous low/no pop servers that are on the same vilayer hive?

The point is that the people who are hacking like that are NOT likely to pay for a server when they can easily get onto one of the many available servers. People who pay for servers want to make a place where they and their friends can simply have a good time. For most that means they don't mind new people, they dont mind bandits, or non bandits. They simply want a place where they don't have to deal with teleporting, ghosting, and a multitude of other disruptive hacks.

Now if you want the kicker....

I had a guy on my arma2oa.rpt file today with an itemRadio. Now when I go to look for him in the createvehicle.log or scripts.log files he doesnt appear in EITHER!!! Now since he was on and off my server before I caught him I wasn't able to even get a guid to ban him. Clearly though he has a hacked item. Now my question is if vilayer wants to be the white knight for this game why dont they take a minute and regularly sweep their hive for people with what are very clearly hacked items. Ban each and every person they catch with them and the number of hackers will be substantially reduced.

[daze23 549]

I play on a server that bans for hacked items. it seems like it's automated. when you get to the lobby it has a warning. I'm sure people get banned that didn't know they had a hacked item, but oh well, they know now, and there's plenty of other servers out there

[logan66 3]

You guys wouldn't happen to be the guys who hopped on and stated up front you were videoing it all and then proceeded to make asses of yourselves were u?

No - we never talked about video until after admin started kicking in mass.

It is a private server and I post very clearly do not bury other ppls bodies. Im very clear when asked that u can take the stuff off it and toss on a zed to bury, or just take it all. JUST DONT BURY OTHER PPLs corpses!!! Yet for some reason that was a problem for you guys. One of you was involved in a firefight and the guy who returned to it finds his body gone. Reminder of the rule goes out and then you guys complain about it. Dont like the rule go elsewhere.

First, no one in our crew bothered to hide a body. We were simply shocked when the admin stated that hiding bodies was against the server rules.

Whether or not we agreed with the rules was not the point of my post - as I stated, I agree that private servers can make up whatever rules they want. The post was to make sure other players are aware that you have admins who kick players for typing exactly 5 words in side chat - "Wow, dis admin be crazy" - which was said in response to an aggressive and antagonistic admin who was confronting multiple players discussing the surprising and controversial nature of the "no hiding" rule.

I think it's important for players to be aware of not just the rules of a server, but the hair-trigger disposition of the admins as well. And I think even private server admins should consider that their actions can and will be discussed outside of the server they rule with iron fists.

Also, you might consider posting your complete server rules, as well as the conditions for kicking and banning, in this thread for reference.

[bodha 7]

Logan,

there's no point. Im pulling my server down until I can get a passworded one. Since this thread popped up a few days ago I've had ppl logging into my server within a few minutes of most server restarts and tele'ing all vehicles to them, occasionally all players as well (but 100+m up so they fall to their deaths) and other fully destructive acts. Doesnt matter if I ban someone when all that happens is another ass comes in and does it all over. Not saying it was you guys. Just that popularity of the server resulted in hackers/scripters deciding they wanted to ruin the server.

When I spoke to vilayer about the problems btw they told me to ban ppl, I explained its that the bulk of the problem which I cant solve through simply banning is these mass kill server vehicle tele scripts which happen as soon as the hacker gets loaded in. The solution they offered me? BAN EVERYONE who I dont personally know BEFORE they can fully login!! Cant have passwords, but they are fully cool with me banning everyone and being a complete ass. Funny how they explained to me that passwording within their hive would infect the overall hive, but.... having ppl mass ban isn't problem. They also didnt seem to understand the problems they are trying to stop from occurring with passwording already happen.