rabb1t 13 Posted September 1, 2012 Do tell.What's there to talk about? I collect and shoot firearms as part of my hobby.So can night sticks, tasers, choke holds, tripping over your shoelaces, cancer, and masturbationAnd what does this have to do with anything? I made a point about how someone said rubber bullets to different parts of the body would do different things and how this was stupid because a rubber bullet to the head could kill you, not knock you out for three minutes and you can just get right back up and do whatever you were doing.While the difference between a taser shot to the torso and legs is probably the same, a taser can cause defib and kill targets.But it's highly unlikely and stupid to make a different about where and what happens what you get shot with one because in any place you get shot, you will seize up and fall to the ground.Putting tranquilizer guns in the game is an even stupider idea. What would a tranquilizer gun with darts that contain a very specific and rare elephant tranquilizer be doing in the Czech Republic in the post apocalypse? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozen (DayZ) 144 Posted September 1, 2012 @FrozenWhich tranquilizer are you talking about? Etorphine is a muscle relaxant, but it's also an opioid narcotic a thousand times stronger than morphine used to knock out elephants. Dexter uses it on the other serial-killers he hunts so it seems a good candidate for whatever was suggested before.whatever drug is used, i highly doubt, that it will work faster, if dart hit the head, unless knockout was caused by impact.Putting tranquilizer guns in the game is an even stupider idea. What would a tranquilizer gun with darts that contain a very specific and rare elephant tranquilizer be doing in the Czech Republic in the post apocalypse?well it could be used, before apocalypse, on bears or other big animals. chernarus is fictional country, so there can by any shit that exist in real world :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aksuduud 64 Posted September 1, 2012 Tranquilizers are potentially very lethal if the target doesnt receive the right dosage and care after, as it can as far as i know make the target stop breathing, which is obviously lethal.Besides, why would you want to handicap yourself by using one of these? The guy with AK you just shot is now mad cause you shot him, and while you are reloading your single shot gun he sprays a clip at you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bearded McGee 121 Posted September 1, 2012 Tranquilizers are potentially very lethal if the target doesnt receive the right dosage and care after, as it can as far as i know make the target stop breathing, which is obviously lethal.Besides, why would you want to handicap yourself by using one of these? The guy with AK you just shot is now mad cause you shot him, and while you are reloading your single shot gun he sprays a clip at you.Some people are nice people who'd rather not get murders.I got one so far because I had absolutely no choice.If I had had the chance of using a non-lethal approach to incapacitate him, I would have done that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rabb1t 13 Posted September 1, 2012 (edited) Some people are nice people who'd rather not get murders.I got one so far because I had absolutely no choice.If I had had the chance of using a non-lethal approach to incapacitate him, I would have done that.But the person isn't going to just stop moving and wait around for five minutes until they fall asleep. If you see someone and raise a gun at them, they are going shoot back. Even if you hit them with a tranquilizer, good luck on not being shot in the resulting firefight while you wait for them to fall asleep. Good luck again on finding them in time.Good luck once more on managing to loot their bodies in an area that's now swarming with zombies from the gun fire and other players alerted to your location from the fire fight.It's a stupid idea that would be too difficult to implement and even more so to make useful. The whole 'moral' side to this story is bullshit too. You have morals so you don't want to kill them? But instead you're going to shoot them with a tranquilizer, steal anything useful they have, and leave their exposed body just chilling out in the open for twenty minutes? I'd rather just be shot and respawn than to be knocked out at an airfield or outside a supermarket or hospital for ten minutes, wake up, and then find all my gear gone. That's even if someone doesn't just shoot me while I'm passed out or I'm not killed by zombies.If this was ever added, which it won't be because it's a terrible idea, and I was shot with one of these tranquilizer darts, I would just start sprinting through the grass and trees while dropping my gear until I passed out so I won't have anything on me when they find me and they will have to spend a half hour combing the grass for the stuff I dropped over a 1500 meter area. Edited September 1, 2012 by GruntyAssassin 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ididi9 (DayZ) 53 Posted September 2, 2012 BTW don't forget this is just a suggestion. It would need tweaking before it could be realistically viable for the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bratalise 26 Posted September 2, 2012 This would be my concern. How it would be exploited and abused by people who are not looking to get kills per se but rather going for QQ points from whoever they shot.The tranqGun would be an equalizer. Fitting a niche playerbase. With my idea, it would be used for stealing supplies off other players. With a single hit KO, people would use it to knock people out first and then just finish the job.With two shots for KO, it would be used more as a deterent againt aggressive players without being forced to kill them.I'm personally not fond of killing other people. I'd keep a two-shot TranqGun on me for such situations where I either need to debilitate someone enough that they might no longer be a threat without posing too much of a threat to them as they could still escape and avoid zombies.And with an Adrenaline shot counter, this would not be OP enough to make a second shot easy to follow up. I'd make them spawn as much as current epi-pen and I'd remove the epi-pen an give its current effect to Adrenaline shots.Epi-pens are filled with Adrenaline which is also called epinephrin they keep people from going into anaphylactic shock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kraorr 6 Posted September 2, 2012 And make crowbar a one hit knock out if hitting another player in the back! :P And gimme handcuffs or some kinda rope to tie you next to a pole/tree or sumfin :>Over and all the choices of self defense are too radical for the one who doesn't want to just shoot people, let alone the fact of it can destroy your humanity because you have been forced to.Amen to being able to unarm someone while unconscious. Sucks that the only option is to keep someone locked on the drag body status...One tranquilizer shot should progressively blur someone's sight and after some time (let's say 1 min for it to take effect) it puts the target in unconscious state for 2 mins or so? Would be nice to have this option on a crossbow. A tricky one shot non lethal option for the crossbow, keeping it stealthy until your target passes out. Could also use it as a "back off!" shot, forcing an effected target to fall back to a safe position before he knows he passes out. Could lower the time it would take to kick in depending of the location of where the bolt hits, too :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quazil 3 Posted September 4, 2012 Tranq-gun is kinda lame... if they add Zoo's then I guess, OK. However... Zombie Lions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JamesR 74 Posted September 4, 2012 One dart makes your vision blurry. Two knocks you out. Three kills you. This avoids the troll situation described above. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Josh225 129 Posted September 4, 2012 I had a thought exactly like this, simply have a stun gun or tazer with a range of maybe 20 or so meters and has the ability to knock people out for around a minute, means i no longer have to risk robbing people to steal their stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timboski 618 Posted September 4, 2012 This would be excellent for stealing without killing them. Though 99% of people would ALt+F4. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JamesR 74 Posted September 6, 2012 This would be excellent for stealing without killing them. Though 99% of people would ALt+F4. Log out under sedation and you log back in unconscious for 5 minutes. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ididi9 (DayZ) 53 Posted September 8, 2012 One dart makes your vision blurry. Two knocks you out. Three kills you. This avoids the troll situation described above.I would say your on the right track there, But I think this weapon should be non lethal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozen (DayZ) 144 Posted September 8, 2012 I would say your on the right track there, But I think this weapon should be non lethaloverdose of drug can actually kill, so "non lethal" can only be applied only in case if weapon isnt overused. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ididi9 (DayZ) 53 Posted December 27, 2012 overdose of drug can actually kill, so "non lethal" can only be applied only in case if weapon isnt overused.Suppose, Maybe this is why a Bean Bag shooter is a better idea Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michaelvoodoo25 3120 Posted December 27, 2012 I first check the date, Then look through the post to see if i have posted on this same as last time and time before that, repeated topic again and again, then i realise i havent posted in this one and can't remember what I wrote in the last one (But it was valid) then i just come up with a yeah or no.Yeah it is a good idea but bloody hell:http://dayzmod.com/forum/index.php?/topic/105155-poison-darts/page__hl__dart#entry987318http://dayzmod.com/forum/index.php?/topic/98231-stun-gun-tazerelectroshock-weapons-and-stuning-hits/page__hl__dart#entry928976http://dayzmod.com/forum/index.php?/topic/95901-tranq-guns-for-standalone/page__hl__darthttp://dayzmod.com/forum/index.php?/topic/84276-tranquilizer-gun/page__hl__dart#entry795578http://dayzmod.com/forum/index.php?/topic/65749-i-need-a-taser-stun-gun-sleeping-dart-in-this-game-asap/page__hl__darthttp://dayzmod.com/forum/index.php?/topic/54275-poison-as-a-weapon-syringeepi-pen-for-bandits-and-other-suggestions/page__hl__dart#entry519298http://dayzmod.com/forum/index.php?/topic/48319-dart-guns/page__hl__dartThis was just using "Dart" as a search parameter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites