brian.rettie@googlemail.com 11 Posted August 24, 2012 Why would you care at all what I think?We don't xD 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dancing.Russian.Man 1631 Posted August 24, 2012 Actually Rocket was being paid by the government while he was making the mod.. Tax payers paid for his time.. hmm.. feels kind of weird now doesn't it. You know eating your own shit.Har har. Trying to be funny?Proof or get out. ♥ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nicraM 137 Posted August 24, 2012 Once again, this argument is rather moot.I paid for ARMA 2, yes. But, I paid for it in regards to play testing DayZ (alpha). Which, from previous experiences is followed by a beta, then a final release. I wonder now, that the standalone got sponsored by BIS will the product I originally intended on playing be left behind, or hindered in production in anyway, shape or form? I think it will. The devs are now focusing on the standalone, while the base product (dayz mod) is being relegated to the back burner. I am not fine with this, nor should the million plus people, that bought arma 2 for dayz, be either. It wouldn't be hard to support both, you just have to be willing to make sacrifices, of the monetary kind. BIS now owns the rights to DayZ and they should support the precursor, in order to keep the hype going. I wonder where they will be at when the hype dies down for DayZ because the developers didn't take heed to regulate the original game, properly? Oh, that is right, still siphoning billions of dollars from taxpayers to make military war sims for our governments.What am I saying? They don't give a shit about us. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kozmo 8 Posted August 24, 2012 Actually Rocket was being paid by the government while he was making the mod.. Tax payers paid for his time.. hmm.. feels kind of weird now doesn't it. You know eating your own shit.You saying that Rocket was on Welfare while he was working on the mod? Or that he was given a contract by the government to make a zombie survival game that will prepare the citizens of this world for the end of days?Conspiracy!!!!! European government is planning on releasing the Rage virus into the atmosphere!!! I guess as a way of population control? unlike all the zombie movies and shows out there are we going to call them zombies or come up with something else?Show us all how you came up with "the government was paying rocket to work on this mod" and sorry little man I highly doubt your minimum wage job contributed much of your tax money to the development of this game/le sigh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McLovinCR 29 Posted August 24, 2012 What I expect is integrity and honoring what you say.Seems to be a lost human trait. I guess the goal was to sellout, in the end. Just sucks that we, the consumers, are the ones that suffer.To be entitled as "consumers" we have to bought the product/service, right?So please, explain to me: How are we consumers of DayZ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azrail (DayZ) 211 Posted August 24, 2012 His point is action speak louder than words.. Pretty common phrase.. welcome to networking with humans.No, its just average trolling.. welcome to networking with kids. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nicraM 137 Posted August 24, 2012 To be entitled as "consumers" we have to bought the product/service, right?So please, explain to me: How are we consumers of DayZ?Oh, by law we aren't entitled to shit. Even when you pay for a product. Look it up, it's a privilege to buy and use most products. (Gross!)With that said, it is an ethics thing. I only bought ARMA 2 because I bought the BS rocket was spewing about making a game that didn't cater to the dummies nor under the guise of corporate run entities. Neither was true. He has placated to the care bears more so than the hardcore players and has now sold the rights to BIS. With all that has happened, I am guessing DayZ mod is going to die a slow and painful death. Also, I bet the stand alone will be horrible with implementations that the community suggested. Seeming as, most of you have horrible ideas, like safe zones and penalties for murder. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McLovinCR 29 Posted August 24, 2012 Once again, this argument is rather moot.I paid for ARMA 2, yes. But, I paid for it in regards to play testing DayZ (alpha). Which, from previous experiences is followed by a beta, then a final release.I wonder now, that the standalone got sponsored by BIS will the product I originally intended on playing be left behind, or hindered in production in anyway, shape or form? I think it will.The devs are now focusing on the standalone, while the base product (dayz mod) is being relegated to the back burner. I am not fine with this, nor should the million plus people, that bought arma 2 for dayz, be either.It wouldn't be hard to support both, you just have to be willing to make sacrifices, of the monetary kind. BIS now owns the rights to DayZ and they should support the precursor, in order to keep the hype going.I wonder where they will be at when the hype dies down for DayZ because the developers didn't take heed to regulate the original game, properly? Oh, that is right, still siphoning billions of dollars from taxpayers to make military war sims for our governments.What am I saying? They don't give a shit about us.Nobody forces you to bought ArmA 2 in order to play DayZ. Sorry, but this is completely stupid.Does the dev team will stop making bug fixes? Maybe. Does the dev team will put new features? Most likely. They want to add all the features to this mod and then add those features in a more polished way to the standalone, which in my opinion is the best bet.We are here to support the mod, test it and show the bad things about it in a positive way. If you have any problem with any of those, please stop playing it and wait for the standalone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kozmo 8 Posted August 24, 2012 Once again, this argument is rather moot.I paid for ARMA 2, yes. But, I paid for it in regards to play testing DayZ (alpha). Which, from previous experiences is followed by a beta, then a final release.I wonder now, that the standalone got sponsored by BIS will the product I originally intended on playing be left behind, or hindered in production in anyway, shape or form? I think it will.The devs are now focusing on the standalone, while the base product (dayz mod) is being relegated to the back burner. I am not fine with this, nor should the million plus people, that bought arma 2 for dayz, be either.It wouldn't be hard to support both, you just have to be willing to make sacrifices, of the monetary kind. BIS now owns the rights to DayZ and they should support the precursor, in order to keep the hype going.I wonder where they will be at when the hype dies down for DayZ because the developers didn't take heed to regulate the original game, properly? Oh, that is right, still siphoning billions of dollars from taxpayers to make military war sims for our governments.What am I saying? They don't give a shit about us.You said it your self... you Bought arma2, But with the intentions of alpha testing a mod for the engine called DayZ. I dont see the problem here. You got exactly what you paid for and are unhappy with a service you have received from a free mod that is in development.you mention that the military is giving away billions of dollars into the development of this game. You are wrong. Bi won a contract with the military to design Arma2. That was 2 years ago. Bi is currently in the progress of trying to win another contract with the same military to design another war SIm. This was sim wasnt and isn't DayZ.Your logic is flawed. You are trolling so hard that you fail to realize just how dumb you actually are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hutch (DayZ) 116 Posted August 24, 2012 To be entitled as "consumers" we have to bought the product/service, right?So please, explain to me: How are we consumers of DayZ?We bought Arma2. Not because we wanted to play Arma2, but to play Dayz.BI sold a crap-ton of copies via Steam when the hype around Dayz started. Before that, nobody bought it because it's a crappy buggy game.I agree with you though. Rocket has stated many times that people should not be buying Arma2 just to play Dayz since Dayz is still in Alpha and only barely playable it's not worth the money (yet)So people only have themselves to blame for spending the money to play a mod that just barely started development. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McLovinCR 29 Posted August 24, 2012 Oh, by law we aren't entitled to shit. Even when you pay for a product. Look it up, it's a privilege to buy and use most products. (Gross!)With that said, it is an ethics thing. I only bought ARMA 2 because I bought the BS rocket was spewing about making a game that didn't cater to the dummies nor under the guise of corporate run entities. Neither was true. He has placated to the care bears more so than the hardcore players and has now sold the rights to BIS.With all that has happened, I am guessing DayZ mod is going to die a slow and painful death. Also, I bet the stand alone will be horrible with implementations that the community suggested. Seeming as, most of you have horrible ideas, like safe zones and penalties for murder.Those are just ideas, and from the community itself. Rocket has his own vision and sometimes we will listen to the community and sometimes he will slap them. BTW, safe zones and penalties for murders is just plain stupid.I also bought arma just for dayz because i hate ArmA. The mod is far from a decent product but still succeed in getting lulz from me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nicraM 137 Posted August 24, 2012 Yeah, but I bet money this mod will never leave Alpha. That is what I am irked about. Stick to your word. I expect there to be a beta and a final version, as per the regular routine that is usually set in this industry. Only then, will Rocket get my money for the stand alone. The non-participation by BIS in regards to DCin and Scripting is also an issue. I highly doubt this will be solved by the stand alone release. Hence, why they are gonna do the pre-build-alpha model for the stand alone, as well. Ever thought about why they will do that? Because, they probably won't finish that either. It's the ole bait and switch. I am just speculating here, but my speculations are almost never wrong. Mark my words, DayZ mod will never be finished, if ever leaving alpha stage. DayZ stand alone will be riddled with the same complications as DayZ mod (DCers, scripters, etc). And, more than likely will never be a finished product, either. What is the saying? "fool me once...?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZekkCC (DayZ) 51 Posted August 24, 2012 The self righteous nonsense spewing in here is sad. :( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nicraM 137 Posted August 24, 2012 What is funny is, even with all the BS with this game (DayZ). It is still the best concept to come out since Team Fortress. But, with the sway of corporatism and an inane community base, it is doomed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
venthos 605 Posted August 24, 2012 Yes it is dead reguardless of what fanboys tell you.. You should make it a poll, so people can vote on it.. that is where you will get how the community feels about it.. well at least the commnuity that logs into the forums which are typically fanboys.. so maybe you wont ever get a real numberWhat's up, gmbrewer? :D Nice to see you're still rejecting all logic and reason, as per usual.I didn't even read who posted that response before I got excited about how idiotic it was, and then I got so excited I squealed a bit when I saw it was you who made that terrible post.Let's break down that post. You declare that something is true regardless if:-There is clear opposition to the contrary ("reguardless of what fanboys tell you")-The very metric you've setup to measure if you're right contradicts your claim ("fanboys.. so maybe you wont ever get a real number")So you've basically stated "I am right, even if there is data to show that I may not be right. I'm just right. That's it."Spectacular.I'm just in awe at how amazingly idiotic you continue to be on the forums. I hope you post back and tell me about your "13 years of declaring anecdotal evidence" and also throw something about college in there again like your Vert thread.You should just edit your post and replace it with just the word "IRREGARDLESS". It would have the same effect of dismissing facts and showing your lack of intellect at the same time.I'm so excited to have you participate in another thread again with your irrational outbursts. *Clicks follow thread* I await your next gem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tiptoptopper@gmail.com 244 Posted August 24, 2012 No, its just average trolling.. welcome to networking with kids.Says the childish troll. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McLovinCR 29 Posted August 24, 2012 Yeah, but I bet money this mod will never leave Alpha.That is what I am irked about. Stick to your word. I expect there to be a beta and a final version, as per the regular routine that is usually set in this industry.Only then, will Rocket get my money for the stand alone. The non-participation by BIS in regards to DCin and Scripting is also an issue. I highly doubt this will be solved by the stand alone release. Hence, why they are gonna do the pre-build-alpha model for the stand alone, as well.Ever thought about why they will do that? Because, they probably won't finish that either. It's the ole bait and switch. I am just speculating here, but my speculations are almost never wrong. Mark my words, DayZ mod will never be finished, if ever leaving alpha stage.DayZ stand alone will be riddled with the same complications as DayZ mod (DCers, scripters, etc). And, more than likely will never be a finished product, either.What is the saying? "fool me once...?"Ding Ding Ding! You are correct this mod will NEVER leave the alpha stage!! This mod will be the alpha stage of the standalone with a different engine, map among other things. My suggestion will be: wait until the release and 1000000 positive feedback in amazon before buying it.Please read some interviews with Rocket and you, at least, will know that hack, script and alt+f4 are being considering.Remember that those problems are ArmA related, not mod related. As per now, they can't do shit about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Audio Rejectz 144 Posted August 24, 2012 It's funny how people say " We may not of paid for DayZ, but we paid for Arma to play DayZ " Seriously people?? Read back the sentences you keep writing. Regardless if you bought Arma to play DayZ, you physically paid for ARMA and arma only. Unless any of you can show a receipt of purchase that includes DayZ?FFS, you are saying how a mod that has been getting developed by ONE man is dieing because you haven't had a patch in a couple of week, some seriously stupid people on here.I'll wait as long as it takes for the patches without complaining, because the game was FREEEeeeeeee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nicraM 137 Posted August 24, 2012 So, unless you are adamant in researching the product and reading everything, that the developer has to say... you are shit out of luck? That is pretty fucking sad. I watched a couple videos and read what Rocket's initial goal was. I thought, "Finally a developer that cares about something other than just selling out." Either way, that was not the case and the truth comes out eventually. I guess me thinking that DayZ mod would leave the test stage was foolish, even though it is usually the norm. I guess not anymore, huh? What am I saying is, this is complete BS and we as consumers have the power to end it. Don't give me crap about profit margins and companies not innovating anything because of fear of loss of profits. That is not my concern, nor, should it be yours. With the model that we have going now (corporate model) our markets are over-saturated with shit products at insane mark ups. All under the guise of, "well, we gotta make money, somehow!"The whole thing is disgusting. If you innovate you will be rewarded. But, only if you stick to your initial stance/goal. That is what it should be like. Not, selling your idea to some corporate slime balls who just want to stick their dick in it, without a care if it lives or dies. As long as the first week sales make us a profit... right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hutch (DayZ) 116 Posted August 24, 2012 ...It is still the best concept to come out since Team Fortress. ...Agreed. I'm so tired of games being "balanced" and "fair". It's buggy but I'm still playing because I'm still having fun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigWurm 13 Posted August 24, 2012 This topic has not had a post in 5 minutes, is it dead? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azrail (DayZ) 211 Posted August 24, 2012 (edited) We bought Arma2. Not because we wanted to play Arma2, but to play Dayz.your money, your problem.you should inform yourself before you buy something. Edited August 24, 2012 by Azrail Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azrail (DayZ) 211 Posted August 24, 2012 I am just speculating here, but my speculations are almost never wrong. and noone really gives a damn. how sad.(except me, but then again i'm hijacking this thread for my evening entertainment)i can see two possible reasons why you seem to be so eager to get your point across.1) you are an attention whoreor2) you are working for some 'competitive' game which is said to also be currently in development.tough call but i will put my bet on 2), and i am almost never wrong with my bets.if you say neither 1) or 2) is true, you lie. stop with them lies already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk24 94 Posted August 24, 2012 (edited) We bought Arma2. Not because we wanted to play Arma2, but to play Dayz.Then you're a fucking moronOh well...I already knew that after seeing your faggy minecraft avatarDayZ is free, you bought ArmA2:CONothing more, so quit bitching Edited August 24, 2012 by Hawk24 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McLovinCR 29 Posted August 24, 2012 and noone really gives a damn. how sad.(except me, but then again i'm hijacking this thread for my evening entertainment)i can see two possible reasons why you seem to be so eager to get your point across.1) you are an attention whoreor2) you are working for some 'competitive' game which is said to also be currently in development.tough call but i will put my bet on 2), and i am almost never wrong with my bets.if you say neither 1) or 2) is true, you lie. stop with them lies already.Also option 2) for me azrail! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites