Why are the AS50 and M107 in the game?

[reuben5150 83]

It's kinda hard to headshot someone from 800 meters out.

Sniping is supossed to be hard, anyone remember the tears about what was done to the sniper rifles in BF3 beta ?

Where is the challenge in spaming the trigger on a m107 until you hit the guy in his legs ?

Where is the challenge in taking down a vehicle with a rifle with one or two shot ?

[reuben5150 83]

When using a DMR it's harder than you would think to use the mildots to estimate a torso shot from 800 meters out, a headshot would be nearly impossible. Especially if the target is moving.

Have you tried practicing in Arma 2 ? it really helps.

[kugelmeister 2]

In this game, the FN-FAL, the Lee Enfield, and the M14 AIM can down a player in 1 hit almost 100% of the time. If you get in close with a sniper they either have to switch out their gun with something in their bag, or try to 10 shot you with a pistol. In close quarters you can easily take down a sniper with an FN-FAL in 1 shot and then kill them with the second, the fact that they are using a game style that plays to the advantage of their gun is not "unfair". you have to play the game like there is an AS50 aimed at your head 24/7, it makes it exciting, it keeps you on your toes,and it helps you survive. if you cant kill a sniper in cherno because all you have is a Makarov or G17 then you have no right to bitch because a player with high end gear who has worked hard to get his shit and has gone around the map looting DESERVES to be able to kill a player who has been alive 5 minutes and only checked a few houses. In ANY other game you cannot expect to be as strong when you spawn as someone who has been playing for a while and is well geared, that is an unreasonable expectation and if you didnt have an advantage from playing the game and pillaging military camps in the north, then what would be the fucking point?

[JESUSARIUS REX (DayZ) 163]

In this game, the FN-FAL, the Lee Enfield, and the M14 AIM can down a player in 1 hit almost 100% of the time. If you get in close with a sniper they either have to switch out their gun with something in their bag, or try to 10 shot you with a pistol. In close quarters you can easily take down a sniper with an FN-FAL in 1 shot and then kill them with the second, the fact that they are using a game style that plays to the advantage of their gun is not "unfair". you have to play the game like there is an AS50 aimed at your head 24/7, it makes it exciting, it keeps you on your toes,and it helps you survive. if you cant kill a sniper in cherno because all you have is a Makarov or G17 then you have no right to bitch because a player with high end gear who has worked hard to get his shit and has gone around the map looting DESERVES to be able to kill a player who has been alive 5 minutes and only checked a few houses. In ANY other game you cannot expect to be as strong when you spawn as someone who has been playing for a while and is well geared, that is an unreasonable expectation and if you didnt have an advantage from playing the game and pillaging military camps in the north, then what would be the fucking point?

Just saying, a lot of high end gear is duped. I even know people that dupe. I think duping makes the game boring, but people who don't understand this game is about surviving and not shooting noobs in elektro do it anyways. Fyi, most people(at least from experience and talking around) wouldn't even go near cherno/elektro with good weapons like as50s and m107s, because they are so rare. People sniping noobs with a dmr or cz, realistic, probably not a duper. But most AMRs without duping stay the hell away from the coast. Chances are if they are using a .50 on the coast, they have 5 more at camp....not saying all are like that. Some people just find a .50 and do it for the love of trolololing, or being an ass, but most will likely be dupers.

Just my opinion.

[bazbake 456]

In this game, the FN-FAL, the Lee Enfield, and the M14 AIM can down a player in 1 hit almost 100% of the time. If you get in close with a sniper they either have to switch out their gun with something in their bag, or try to 10 shot you with a pistol. In close quarters you can easily take down a sniper with an FN-FAL in 1 shot and then kill them with the second, the fact that they are using a game style that plays to the advantage of their gun is not "unfair". you have to play the game like there is an AS50 aimed at your head 24/7, it makes it exciting, it keeps you on your toes,and it helps you survive. if you cant kill a sniper in cherno because all you have is a Makarov or G17 then you have no right to bitch because a player with high end gear who has worked hard to get his shit and has gone around the map looting DESERVES to be able to kill a player who has been alive 5 minutes and only checked a few houses. In ANY other game you cannot expect to be as strong when you spawn as someone who has been playing for a while and is well geared, that is an unreasonable expectation and if you didnt have an advantage from playing the game and pillaging military camps in the north, then what would be the fucking point?

Proof that some people want DayZ to be just another CoD clone and they'll fight tooth and nail to make it that way.

DayZ is about fear. There's currently no fear with high-end gear. Pistols were nerfed and sniper rifles are ridiculous so once you reach a certain point you coast and never have to deal with even the concept of threats.

It's one thing to have an advantage. It's another to be "entitled" to stay in power. That's a flaw in the game design that they hopefully address in the standalone.

[ramatakahn 38]

I had the following loadout:

M4A3 CCO

PDW

Every tool

Coyote backpack with a M4A1 SD CCO

Guess how my friend and I met our demise?

Two snipers in ghillies sitting on top of an extremely tall building in cherno killing everyone that went to the fire station (and the rest of the city).

How much damage do each of their weapons do?

Over 34000. So it doesn't matter how much blood you have. They get an instant kill at any range while they remain untouchable, not even looting the people they kill.

Snipers don't belong in this game, no matter how many people think that sniping is "cool". Every game seems to be ruined by people like that. Snipers are only even in this game to one-hit-kill other survivors. They are impractical for any other purpose. So why are they even allowed? It takes no skill once the gun is zeroed. All it is is point and click. Even if I didn't have good gear, I would still feel cheated against. It is infuriating to see their stupid little ghillie heads barely sticking up knowing that there is nothing you can do except leave the game and let them continue killing innocent players until they get bored.

Bad player crying, move along folks nothing to see here.

[Mr Radar 5]

The cheaters/dupers are causing the problems. Not the high end gear. Sure the AS50, m107, and nightvision are all extremely out of place in the game but if their was no duping then they really wouldn't be an issue. Problem is their are probably 5+ on any server with more than 20 people.

It is nearly impossible to talk about balance in the game at all until hacking is taken care of. Unfortunately pretty much every server with a halfway decent amount of players on it has at least one hacker on it with probably 3+ weapon dupers. No one really knows how the game should play out without cheats.

Edited August 18, 2012 by Mr Radar

[DarkwaveDomina 1099]

You have played long enough to have two fantastic M4 variants and a coyote pack, and you expect us to believe you didn't know Cherno is the playground of snipers and newbie-hunting retards? Really? You had it coming.

Edited August 18, 2012 by Ulfhedjinn

[Elektro (DayZ) 7]

...But people don't use them that way. How many times have you seen a .50 cal being used to take out a vehicle?

I have actually... ._.

[Elektro (DayZ) 7]

No sniper rifle should be OHK unless it's a headshot or fired at very close range, 50cals should have slow firing rate and 5 round mag max.

The weapons list needs a revision IMO.

You're kidding right?

[Gogster (DayZ) 626]

Bad player crying, move along folks nothing to see here.

Bad poster posting.

He makes a valid point and there's people who agree with him. I being one of them.

[- Valkyrie - 89]

" You kids shouldn't play so rough, someone's gonna start crying. "

[- Valkyrie - 89]

Besides. I've been playing this shit for almost 3 months now. Got killed like 8 times, and just 1 death of those is from a sniper. 1 from zombies because me being a retard at that time. And the rest is in real firefights where I was the first engaging.

Conclusion: Conceal yourself. Don't fucking run like a headless chicken over an open field near Stary, Cherno, Elekto, NWAF. Use cover. Before you go where you want, observe for at least 5min (no joke). So often I was about to rush in and I stop and lay down for a few minutes and I see movement on the roofs or the hills.

Final words: You die because you are an stupid idiot. Not because of things being overpowered and other never ending excuses. If 50% of people manage to survive for weeks without being sniped while regulary looting high traffic places, then you can too. If you are on a full server (30+ people) then every bush, every tree is a potential threat. If you are on a 5 people server then guess where those five people will be? Exactly, they'll be at the same fucking place you are trying to loot because they'll think the same as you = "OH ALMOST NO PEOPLE ON THIS SERVER, I GO LOOT THE NWAF" ....

And then you dumbfucks wonder you get shot.

Just use your fucking brain :beans:

It's there for a reason. Don't be brainless :emptycan:

Edited August 28, 2012 by - Valkyrie -

[Draxx (DayZ) 61]

It is funny :)

You completely ignored some basic rules in DayZ:

1.) If you are a experienced player, you should check at least the standard sniper nests. (Tall building - maybe a good spot to snipe. I know, a good sniper would avoid such exposed places. But you find a lot of sniper that love to sit in such a high nest.)

2.) Cherno and Elektro are highly dangerous places. If you go there, you should know that the survival chances in that places are small. And to be honest: if you are surprised, that you get sniped in those two cities, you have no clue about the game.

3.) Stop bitching about the .50 cals. These weapons are the only effective weapon agains those ALT-F4 players. The weapon which is extremely overpowered is the L85. With the thermal sight you nearly have a wallhack.

And, like a lot of ppl say here in the thread. What did you do in the city? With your equipment you do not need anything from there, so I would also assume you were there to kill players. If I would snipe over Elektro or Cherno and I see a guy like you between the houses, be sure that I would kill you too! For just 2 reasons:

1.) Your equipment looks nice - maybe I can loot you.

2.) and more important: If someone has this equipment in a city where mainly noobs trying to get equipped with low tier weapons - you have to be a bandit and I kill you for that fact just for fun.