Day Z vs The War Z

[p3rvyxx 0]

Me and my bud talk about Zombie survival games all the time. Eventually I decided to go ahead and initiate some ideas for this future project. Day Z came out and beat us to the punch. Now this so called, "The War Z" will be released eventually. One thing that Day Z should consider on adding is some trade and sell distinctions of any kind. I strongly reinforce this intention. I fell in enchantment with this game and having the knowledge of finally coming out as a stand alone game got be overwhelmed. Although it might seemed like I'm being prudent on the developers and designers. I just wish to make it exceptional and not abdicate playing this survival adventure for a long time which I've learned to see a new perspective on military games.

[thehumandove 344]

m'yes!

[badger05 41]

why the war Zinc sucks:

-they ripped everything off dayZ including the name and then claimed they thought of everything first

-it's an exact copy of war inc just modded (war inc sucks it doesn't even have a weapon switch animation) http://imgur.com/a/SvNg5

-since it's the same as war inc it's just a cheesy arcade shooter with no realistic elements like wildelife, voice communication or leg breaking

-they make you pay a one time price and then they try to scam you with a cash shop as if it were a F2P game

-it's made by a sleezy company that only cares about making the game easy for casuals so they get more money

-it's 2 months from being released and they don't have any gameplay videos (embarrassed of their incomplete game?)

Edited August 15, 2012 by badger05

[SmashT 10907]

Oh, it's this thread again.

[suineg1 8]

Thanks for showing me what Warcrap is. ;) Better stick to arma3 engine!

[sixbarns 217]

Oh, it's this thread again.

He has such a refreshing take on it. There must be rules to these posts somewhere. I bet it's something like this:

1. say you like dayz

2. mention WarZinc as if it's somehow comparable

3. try to get people to support a pay to win model in a roundabout way

4. pretend spamming warz garbage wasn't sole purpose of thread

[Priceless 154]

Me and my bud talk about Zombie survival games all the time. Eventually I decided to go ahead and initiate some ideas for this future project. Day Z came out and beat us to the punch. Now this so called, "The War Z" will be released eventually. One thing that Day Z should consider on adding is some trade and sell distinctions of any kind. I strongly reinforce this intention. I fell in enchantment with this game and having the knowledge of finally coming out as a stand alone game got be overwhelmed. Although it might seemed like I'm being prudent on the developers and designers. I just wish to make it exceptional and not abdicate playing this survival adventure for a long time which I've learned to see a new perspective on military games.

Stop trying to act like an english major and throw big words in the midst of bad grammar. I could hardly understand your post, but I think badger05 pwned you when you brought up that crapshoot WarZ.

[wordplayuk@gmail.com 101]

obvious, troll is obvious

[Hetstaine 10852]

Nothing about warz has excited me in the least. The game looks very 'gamey' if you get my drift. Looks far more console type than pc..but i suppose we will all find out soonishly possibly maybe.

[northman88 0]

To find out means somebody has to buy it, which is exactly what they've calculated with.

[Gapi182 21]

you're comparing a mod to a bunch of screenshots... nice

[syndicatefaction 118]

WarZ.....ROFLMFAO!

[Fredrik361 48]

Hate on a game before trying it, Makes all the sense!

there's going to be alot of zombie survival games trying to compete with DayZ, the more competition for them the better, then at least they don't get lazy with DayZ :P

but WarZ would have to add something else then just looting and surviving because well, DayZ is full of that, not that that's bad but it would become boring pretty fast if they just straight up copy DayZ with another name.

Only time can tell what they do.

[SillySil 295]

why the war Zinc sucks:

-they ripped everything off dayZ including the name and then claimed they thought of everything first

-it's an exact copy of war inc just modded (war inc sucks it doesn't even have a weapon switch animation) http://imgur.com/a/SvNg5

-since it's the same as war inc it's just a cheesy arcade shooter with no realistic elements like wildelife, voice communication or leg breaking

-they make you pay a one time price and then they try to scam you with a cash shop as if it were a F2P game

-it's made by a sleezy company that only cares about making the game easy for casuals so they get more money

-it's 2 months from being released and they don't have any gameplay videos (embarrassed of their incomplete game?)

I don't even defend warz because I don't even know the game but most of your points are really idiotic.

1. They ripped off dayz? What did they rip off exactly? Open map? Zombies? Post zombie apocalypse setting? Scavenging and looking for loot? These things have already been there. Someone could say that DayZ is ripping off STALKER and Left4Dead. Unless the game feels copypasted there is no point talking about ripping things off. Everything has been done already. You can always say that something ripped something else.

And even if someone would take a game and rip everything off and make a new game, it's not a reason why it would suck. It's a reason for the person being an asshole but not that the game will suck. If that was true, then DayZ standalone would be bound to suck since it's ripping off DayZ arma mod. This argument makes no sense in so many ways.

2. Well then following your logic DayZ sucks because it's an exact copy of ARMA 2 just modded. (arma sucks, you can have only 1 animation at a time, can't run and change weapons for instance). See how dumb this point is?

3. And these things can't be added to the game? It's like saying that DayZ mod is gonna suck because it's made on arma and arma doesn't have realistic things like food and drinks. It makes no sense... if a mod can add things to the game why not warz can add things to war inc? And just please can you repeat that breaking legs is realistic in dayz? Because I can't believe my eyes. How many times have you heard about someone breaking his leg because he pinned himself between a wall and a door while opening it? Or how about breaking legs while crawling over a rock? How about breaking legs from a 1 meter fall? And last but not least, how does morphine heal a broken leg? Realistic elements... Give me a break.

4. Unless you are a mindless zombie you have a free will and don't have to buy anything from the cash shop? "oh god an optional shop to buy skins and shit, they are trying to rip me off!!!!"

5. This is your only somewhat good point. It is suspicious that there are no videos.

And I am skeptical about warz. It seems fishy. I'll definitely wait for reviews and some good footage before I buy it. I have answered to your post because it made no sense.

Edited August 16, 2012 by SillySil

[ZedsDeadBaby 2287]

I don't even defend warz because I don't even know the game but most of your points are really idiotic.

1. They ripped off dayz? What did they rip off exactly? Open map? Zombies? Post zombie apocalypse setting? Scavenging and looking for loot? These things have already been there.

In fariness and as much as I hate to get involved in another one of these threads, they were not "already there" for The WarZ. The WarZ was supposed to be a closed-world, quest-based game with XP, levels, progression, quest hubs, and unlockable areas, etc.

Then DayZ came out and took off and they completely changed their design to an open-world, sandbox exploration/survival game.

Whether you want to call that "ripping off" or not is up to you, but they certainly made the decision to include those elements in their game because DayZ had them and was doing so well. They have freely admitted that.

Edited August 16, 2012 by ZedsDeadBaby

[haviv[3rdid] 57]

Nothing about warz has excited me in the least. The game looks very 'gamey' if you get my drift. Looks far more console type than pc.....

for Nintendo Wii

[SillySil 295]

In fariness and as much as I hate to get involved in another one of these threads, they were not "already there" for The WarZ. The WarZ was supposed to be a closed-world, quest-based game with XP, levels, progression, quest hubs, and unlockable areas, etc.

Then DayZ came out and took off and they completely changed their design to an open-world, sandbox exploration/survival game.

Whether you want to call that "ripping off" or not is up to you, but they certainly made the decision to include those elements in their game because DayZ had them and was doing so well. They have freely admitted that.

It's like EA making an FPS in modern time because Activision did it. If the gamemode and setting is the only thing they have taken from dayz then I don't see a problem. I'd have a problem with warz if they would try to copy all the mechanics and make somewhat a copy of dayz on another engine.

[syncmaster (DayZ) 63]

Why do people act like they care if someones idea gets ripped off? Oh no, someone is taking something I love and making more of it, please stop.

Posted from my typewriter using the US post office to deliver the message.. I hope you clowns are not using those ripoff PCs and broadband connections.

[lordopeth 274]

OP tried a smart troll approach?

LOL. Good effort. If you gonna use big words learn some grammar dude. Me and my bud.. lol

Edited August 16, 2012 by opeth

[ZedsDeadBaby 2287]

Why do people act like they care if someones idea gets ripped off? Oh no, someone is taking something I love and making more of it, please stop.

I don't care about the ripping off so much as I care about what it says about The WarZ design team. If you can be that far into development and just say, "Whelp, now we're making a completely different game." then you can't have had a very focused or cohesive design in the first place. They claim The WarZ has been in development for years, yet they're somehow able to chuck half the design out the window, completely trash whatever work they did on their progression and quest system, get rid of quest NPCs, open up the world, and do all the re-balancing necessary to make the game playable afterward on short notice just because DayZ was doing well?

I don't care whether they ripped off DayZ, I just think it speaks volumes about their approach to design if they can flip the entire game on its head at the drop of a hat just because they see an opportunity to capitalize on someone else's ideas.

To me it says The WarZ isn't going to be a very good game, that's all.

[Hetstaine 10852]

My mate slistarted running up a 90 degree incline near Cherno , i warned him and said..dude you gonna break a leg dude..nah man i go up here all the ti..sliiiiiiiiiide CRIGGGCKKKKK! The noise his snapping bone made caused me to wince and smile at the same time. Then i heard the sound of flies, hey dude..your ass is dead man. As i sat their eating his beanz waiting for his sorry ass to run up from Kamenka i thought..games are the most realistic thing ever. The noise was rather ouchy sounding though.

[Dimes123 60]

think of Dayz as the EVE of well, not space

[redreversed 2]

why the war Zinc sucks:

-they ripped everything off dayZ including the name and then claimed they thought of everything first

-it's an exact copy of war inc just modded (war inc sucks it doesn't even have a weapon switch animation) http://imgur.com/a/SvNg5

-since it's the same as war inc it's just a cheesy arcade shooter with no realistic elements like wildelife, voice communication or leg breaking

-they make you pay a one time price and then they try to scam you with a cash shop as if it were a F2P game

-it's made by a sleezy company that only cares about making the game easy for casuals so they get more money

-it's 2 months from being released and they don't have any gameplay videos (embarrassed of their incomplete game?)

Um.. so its just different personal tastes..and well all the points are stupid except the last one.

Edited August 16, 2012 by redreversed

[Hetstaine 10852]

Why do people act like they care if someones idea gets ripped off? Oh no, someone is taking something I love and making more of it, please stop.

Posted from my typewriter using the US post office to deliver the message.. I hope you clowns are not using those ripoff PCs and broadband connections.

I see holes in your theory. Glaring and large even. Zed explains it rather clearly though so read his post.

The good thing that hopefully will come out of Dayz is that i am sure other game franchises will take a look at the resounding success Rocket has on his hands and change their approach to games in the future, just like warz did ;)

[Cormac McCarthy 15]

uhh, have you guys even read up on what the war z is offering, i plan on playing the shit out of both games. they both look epic.