tido.schmidt@googlemail.com 29 Posted August 15, 2012 (edited) We have three servers. One hasn't even vehicles and two aren't saving anything anymore. No tents, no vehicles, we repaired the chopper, it was spawned back on Skalisty. That's a shame for the devs and I'm pissed off. We pay about 100 Euro a month for nothing now. Are you fucking serious?? We have no rights on our servers, we only can pay and then we don't even get a bit service or even answers?Usually the dev team should pay for our servers, because we can't use them anymore. The whole mod is fucked up. Instead of fixing problems and bugs, they talk about adding more and more features nobody needs. We need bugfixes and nothing else.FIX THIS ALREADY!But it's okay, I think I'm gonna go take a shit and shit some money I can give some server hosters for crappy software mods.We are forced to dupe weapons and items all the time. We take out a weapon and after a restart everything is back where it was. That ruins the game. Edited August 15, 2012 by 8odycount 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nubz_Unite 8 Posted August 15, 2012 so let me see your complaining about an alpha mod. you bought a server from a provider and your getting angry at the developers because they can't fix your give u a good service? not their fault that you wasted your money fyi if the server isn't working like the other servers its because you fucked up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SmashT 10907 Posted August 15, 2012 This is an issue with 1.7.2.5, we have the problem of tents not saving and vehicles being reset on server restart and I know many other servers do too. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.G. 48 Posted August 15, 2012 Good to know the reasons dupers use to justify their actions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Glock 2 Posted August 15, 2012 (edited) Welcome to an alpha mod. Did I put enough emphasis on the important part of that? Play it how you can, it's not unplayable, there will be bugs, that's what alphas and betas have.No need to dupe weapons, the loots spawns work perfectly and inventories are fine as well. Edited August 15, 2012 by Doc Glock Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deceitfulburger 43 Posted August 15, 2012 (edited) so let me see your complaining about an alpha mod. you bought a server from a provider and your getting angry at the developers because they can't fix your give u a good service? not their fault that you wasted your money fyi if the server isn't working like the other servers its because you fucked up.Without these people spending money for these servers there wouldn't be a DayZ you fucktwat. You're retarded. These people spend money so your sorry ass can play. The least you could do is show em some respect. Edited August 15, 2012 by Burke 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ken@thekab.com 37 Posted August 15, 2012 so let me see your complaining about an alpha mod. you bought a server from a provider and your getting angry at the developers because they can't fix your give u a good service? not their fault that you wasted your money fyi if the server isn't working like the other servers its because you fucked up.No it's a known issue with DayZ and has nothing to do with server configuration.Generally it's preferable if you know what you're talking about before you post. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tido.schmidt@googlemail.com 29 Posted August 15, 2012 (edited) Fuck your arguments it's an alpha it's alpha. That's fuckin bullshit. Rocket had a great idea but he's not able to manage a big community like this and he's incompetent in programming such a big thing.The fact is, they say we are only allowed to pay for the server, we can't even access logs anymore and can't see whos hacking or not. In every game there is admin abuse, if you want or not, you can't take admin rights away to prevent this. I was banned on many BF servers, because they said I was hacking.We pay for the servers and the community is growing, so we are in that position to get a service or even answers.With every fix there are new bugs, and instead of fixing bugs, they prefer to add more features. that's so sad. We pay for servers, we can't use anymore and that's a no go.First the tents did not work, then they worked, now they don't work anymore. Vehicles also. It's a mess. They said, they would have to manually spawn vehicles on servers with an id over 8000 and instead of giving us vehicles, they add features nobody needs, like disabling the respawn button, which brings the new gameplay feature of running to zombies and let them kill you. great.and saying it's an excuse for us duping items. LoL... We are 20 members and we have about 6 weapons of every weapon in the game. we don't need to dupe and we don't allow duping in our clan. so stfu with sentences like this bullshit. Edited August 15, 2012 by 8odycount Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lady Kyrah 1110 Posted August 15, 2012 Without these people spending money for these servers there wouldn't be a DayZ you fucktwat. You're retarded. These people spend money so your sorry ass can play. The least you could do is show em some respect.Respect is earned, not bought. You act like a "fucktwat" (as you say) expect to be treated as one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deceitfulburger 43 Posted August 15, 2012 Respect is earned, not bought. You act like a "fucktwat" (as you say) expect to be treated as one.I'm not saying it is bought. And your response was well written. I'm just saying. These people pay $150 Canadian dollars for people to play for free, and as soon as an admin bans someone its "admin abuse". Or "HAI U CANT BAN ME SEZ IN POST DAT U CANT BAN HURR HURR". I'm just saying these people that host servers with hard earned money should be shown a little more respect. It's pretty sad when admins have to resort to their own devices to catch and ban hackers because the cheat detector isn't the greatest. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Useless (DayZ) 2 Posted August 15, 2012 That's not the point! The point is that the Developer just think about new features and how to expand the game. My opinion is that DayZ is a fucking nice game and it just brings a lot of fun!But when I see that this Developers just bring new features instead of fixing this bugs which wouldnt be such a big worrk cause for example spanwing at the coast cant be such a heavy bug.Fixing a bug would cost less time than programing a new feature!I already had a lot of fun in DayZ but when i see bugs like spawing at the coast or vehicles which respawn i rage and think that the next game i buy will be WarZ! Yes it's an Alpha and how works a Alpha?You release an Alpha and let the people report the bugs they get! Next step is fixing these bugs, not bringing new features!An Alpha should be so large. An Alpha get released to show the Developer what doesn't work and what they could do better!DayZ dont work like an Alpha! It works like an already released game and that made me sad! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwbrewer 49 Posted August 15, 2012 so let me see your complaining about an alpha mod. you bought a server from a provider and your getting angry at the developers because they can't fix your give u a good service? not their fault that you wasted your money fyi if the server isn't working like the other servers its because you fucked up.You're an idiot..Learn something about Dayz servers and come back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwbrewer 49 Posted August 15, 2012 Welcome to an alpha mod. Did I put enough emphasis on the important part of that? Play it how you can, it's not unplayable, there will be bugs, that's what alphas and betas have.No need to dupe weapons, the loots spawns work perfectly and inventories are fine as well.Another dumb answer from someone who knows nothing about the server admin piece.. grats on being a client users.. good luck finding a server when they all shut down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tido.schmidt@googlemail.com 29 Posted August 15, 2012 And another thing is, if the devs want their rules and the admins have no rights, they have to set up their own servers. But they let us pay for a mod, which could be bugfixed already, at least the worst bugs and then we don't even get answers or a bit of service. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lady Kyrah 1110 Posted August 15, 2012 And another thing is, if the devs want their rules and the admins have no rights, they have to set up their own servers. But they let us pay for a mod, which could be bugfixed already, at least the worst bugs and then we don't even get answers or a bit of service.Not necessarly true, it's a design that work well for BF3 for example, where you have very little rights on the servers you rent.The problem with fixing non game breaking bugs at the moment is that it's wasted time when the game is not more fleshed out, because more bugs will come, some related with the fixes you just made to fix the previous bugs.Debugging a feature right after it is implemented is extremely slow and inefficient. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KField86 237 Posted August 15, 2012 Good to know the reasons dupers use to justify their actions.He's not justifying it. By having tents with good items in it BEFORE 1.7.2.5 came out, you're duping every time you take an item out of the tent and don't die before a restart. Even if you take an item out of the tent to use it, and save the tent after, the item will still come back after the restart and be in the tent, effectively getting duped. There's also nothing you can do to prevent this. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AADiC 182 Posted August 15, 2012 Fuck your arguments it's an alpha it's alpha. That's fuckin bullshit. Rocket had a great idea but he's not able to manage a big community like this and he's incompetent in programming such a big thing.When is your Mod/game being released? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AADiC 182 Posted August 15, 2012 Another dumb answer from someone who knows nothing about the server admin piece.. grats on being a client users.. good luck finding a server when they all shut down.Yah, hold your breath till they all shut down, lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AADiC 182 Posted August 15, 2012 so let me see your complaining about an alpha mod. you bought a server from a provider and your getting angry at the developers because they can't fix your give u a good service? not their fault that you wasted your money fyi if the server isn't working like the other servers its because you fucked up.You obviously have no idea WTF your talking about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tido.schmidt@googlemail.com 29 Posted August 15, 2012 When is your Mod/game being released?Stupid argument. Same shit as "it's an alpha". I don't need to program a mod by myself to complain about another and saying rocket is incompetent in programming a mod for a community which is that big.We patched back to 1.7.2.4. There at leat the tents and vehicles are saving again. But paying 100 Euro for servers and getting crap patches all the time, which fuck up the game more and more is a pain the ass.1.7.2.4 is the most stable build I think. Only the graphical glitches are a mess. But let me see, 1725 has them too. So, why don't roll back to 1.7.2.4 fix bugs which are important and then adding features? Who needed the bandit skin? tbh it's useless. It brings more bugs like losing your backpack and such things. That's the reason why I don't understand, the devs adding more and more features instead of fixing important things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pwnage13371 147 Posted August 15, 2012 Arguements that people use when they have no sence of logic: "It's in alpha!" "You didn't pay for a free mod." and "Lets see you try to make a mod/game!" 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tido.schmidt@googlemail.com 29 Posted August 15, 2012 (edited) Yeah, true story. It's sad we try to bring up a big community by setting up servers and then get a foot in our asses, because we are complaining about bugs, which can't be so hard to fix. As I said, we pay about 100 Euro for our servers and we don't even have vehicles on one server since it was started for the first time.The other two servers don't save anything, that's why we downgraded to 1.7.2.4 now and everything is just fine except of the graphical glitches.I just got the answer the vehicles would spawn within 7 days but as you see in this thread http://dayzmod.com/f...er/page__st__20 many people having the same issue and this is absolutely a no go. alpha back and forth.Having no vehicles on a newly rented server is inacceptable and I don't think it should be that hard to manually spawn them, if a dev would take some time for it.Also the fact, that I got an email from gamed!de they had stopped our server, because we lock them after a restart for 5 minutes, to prevent the database won't load correctly is a sassiness.We tried it several times and when players join the server after a restart and we don't lock it to prevent people clicking on "okay" the tents and vehicles won't appear.So that's the reason why we lock them for 5 minutes. After that we got a threat the dayz team might blacklist our server when we do that again. So I ask you, what is that bullshit about? The server owners already have no rights. We can't even see the log files anymore so since that we can't see dupers, we can't see hackers with locator scripts, who ran straight out of nowhere to our camp and destroy everything just for fun.We aren't allowed to ban exploiters or even ghosters which I experienced again today after a guy logged out and spawned behind us. We are allowed to set up the server name and the difficulty. That's all and that's not okay. In every game you are able to abuse the game when you are an admin. But that's life. There are always people who will abuse their rights and there is no way to avoid that.Like I said, I was banned in several games from admins who were frustrated I was better then them. But I don't care. The rules are way to harsh and when the dev team wants the people stick to their rules, they might have to set up their own servers and don't use people like us, who are students or have families to host their servers and ruin the mod with useless patches or don't even give them what they deserve (like vehicles) when they try help the community to grow.You can't expect people stick to rules, when you don't give anything back to them.So, that's why I'm concerned. The dev team deals with server hosters like they were some idiots and assholes and that makes me angry. I can't program a mod and I don't have to, to have an opinion and complain about dayz. Also I don't expect an aplha to run perfect without any bugs, I wouldn't love this mod so much, if I would, but I expect a give and take basis and that's not the case.And yeah, I did not pay for this mod and I would never complain about anything, but the fact is, I pay for a server, of which I expect, it saves tents and has vehicles though. So, that's why I think I'm in the position to complain about those things.The bugs like a quad flipping over a hill, broken legs from a door or tents, dying from a bug and so on are okay. It's an alpha, but some things are a no go, like those graphical glitches, no vehicles on servers and tents and vehicles don't save. Duping is a problem too, but since our clan don't need to dupe and we don't want to ruin our fun with dayz, we don't do things like that. Edited August 15, 2012 by 8odycount Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AADiC 182 Posted August 15, 2012 Stupid argument. Same shit as "it's an alpha". I don't need to program a mod by myself to complain about another and saying rocket is incompetent in programming a mod for a community which is that big.We patched back to 1.7.2.4. There at leat the tents and vehicles are saving again. But paying 100 Euro for servers and getting crap patches all the time, which fuck up the game more and more is a pain the ass.1.7.2.4 is the most stable build I think. Only the graphical glitches are a mess. But let me see, 1725 has them too. So, why don't roll back to 1.7.2.4 fix bugs which are important and then adding features? Who needed the bandit skin? tbh it's useless. It brings more bugs like losing your backpack and such things. That's the reason why I don't understand, the devs adding more and more features instead of fixing important things.Arguements that people use when they have no sence of logic: "It's in alpha!" "You didn't pay for a free mod." and "Lets see you try to make a mod/game!""No sense of logic", " I don't need to program a mod by myself to complain about another and saying rocket is incompetent in programming a mod for a community which is that big."Yes it is logical. When people complain about how incompetent someone is at something when they themselves have no idea how to do, that is "No sense of logic" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Synix 33 Posted August 15, 2012 Here's the catch... They are allowing you to host your own DayZ server, you aren't hosting it FOR them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites