Erik (DayZ) 61 Posted August 4, 2012 Never trust unarmed people, NEVER! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SirSlayer 14 Posted August 4, 2012 I find it funny that some self-righterous people complain here. You wouldn't get far in a real (zombie) apocalypse.Also as long the game isn't "fixed" in your view, I can keep doing what I want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neo2157 21 Posted August 4, 2012 (edited) I find it funny that some self-righterous people complain here. You wouldn't get far in a real (zombie) apocalypse.Also as long the game isn't "fixed" in your view, I can keep doing what I want.Oh man I love reading comments from internet badass wannabes like this, so in a real zombie apocolypse everyone is going to start killing eachother for absolutely no reason? Okey then I hope you don't mind not having a respawn button when they hunt you down for being a psychopath.... you know assuming you don't die from a bunch of other things because you were a hermit socopath who couldn't perform basic first aid.Its not the game that needs fixing, its your inability to enjoy a simulation without turning it into a deathmatch game because your so uncreative that when given freedom in a sandbox game the only thing you can do is what your forced to do in every other game. try playing arma 2 sometime with some guys who setup scenarios for fun if you can control yourself and not ruin the experience for 5 minutes due to your loot whore and griefing mentality.Sure this Mod has a ton of bugs but the biggest issue is the player base who can't see the mod as anything other then a pvp deathmatch with tents to dupe and serve as an equip screen before the match start and the debug window as a Kill counter.Who says the game should force teamwork or encourage it? Being in a group should have no more advantages of going alone , it's a matter of choice.It does if you play the game without exploits, I often go out alone looking for supplies when my friends can't log in for the day (or if one of them has a broken bone or some issue) without having another person to cover me a random zombie can knock me out and tear me apart (and this has happened to me a few times at under 9000 blood) as opposed to having another person kill the zombie, bandage my wound, and cover me while I recover. the choice is more risk getting killed by a ninja zombie versus sharing the loot.Anyways about the topic at hand, I've never felt the need to kill a new spawn because i don't have an internet ego that needs constant stroking or feel its worth killing someone over a bandage. usually when i see an unarmed person I tell them to stop over direct chat and turn around so i can check there bag to be sure they arn't hideing a weapon, after that i usually give them some spare supplies or a pistol if i can spare it, (I tell them to keep it holstered and if they raise the weapon while looking at me i will shoot them) If they want to party up for a bit I say sure but as a rule they stay in front and can't weild anything primary unless we run into bandits. its worked out well so far. Edited August 4, 2012 by neo2157 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Despuiter 11 Posted August 4, 2012 (edited) this game isnt real life so get over it.. it sucks to get killed without anything but doesnt it sucks more to get killed wenn you finaly got everything you want.and what are you going to do wenn your fully geared... (Yes idd your gonna hunt people...or make a camp with a guild ect so you can hunt as guild or make it possible for clanmembers to hunt...)Surv in this game without other players trying to kill you is so easy its almost impossible to fail iff you get used to the game and know what to do.Killing makes the game guys! thats what makes it fun.You have to strugle to get the loot what you need and even wenn you got it someone can shoot you any sec. (this fear thriller like feeling is awsome iff you ask me.)But wenn you do succeed in surv and getting all the loot there isnt much for you to do besides killing other players.This is what the most people drive to gear up again after they get killed, they basicly want revange because that person made them waste hours off getting loot.So to stop other people from getting fully geared and starting to hunt the people who already got it will shoot them, because the next day that guy is fully geared and could put a bullit in your brian and make you lose it all again.So the loot is the fun and the problem at the same time. nobody want to lose there loot so they will shoot everything that moves, because iff you do find someone to trust the next day you come across the same guy but then with all the gear and he will take you out to protect his gear simply because it took him hours to get.The only real problem at the moment are hackers and trolls that are only playing to make you unable to play / dont have fun at it.and that is what drives them.. they like our anger.But in a way you should feel sorry for these guys sinds they mostlikely arent accepted in there real life town / work and or family and have to act this way to ''boost there ego''And why do i think that. These are people that cant place themself in someone els his shoes or simply dont care about anything.Meaning they are either depressed and should see a doctor or are simply socialy retarded and will never have many friends in real life and will never feel ''happy'' because off there lack in social skills.(The guy on your work who is still bulling people while beeing fully grown up is kinda the same.)Btw allot off kids hack and troll aswell but they simply havnt picked up enough social skills to see why it so lame. (you learn this in the years 10/12 to about 16/18 years old)Wenn you start working and are out off school you will have to picked it up by then or you will get fired allot off time's because you simply wont fit the team...this will eat there ego away untill they are so depressed they mostlikely are going to kill thereself iff they dont get help.Thats why we should feel sorry for those guys about 18 years old and still thinking its funny simply because there real life will suck or already sucks. Edited August 4, 2012 by Despuiter 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kalev (DayZ) 14 Posted August 4, 2012 Too easy, no penalty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hassman 11 Posted August 4, 2012 Take my god damn beans! take em! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viles (DayZ) 93 Posted August 4, 2012 Really? Thats So CuteThe reason people kill others so much is because there's no penalty to it. If your character could get some sort of 'shock' from a random killing, it'd be different. Maybe your character will start shaking after he kills someone, and if it continues at times he'll refuse to pull the trigger when you shoot. Now that'd be an interesting system...Only thing someone should get from killing another player is Recoil. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viles (DayZ) 93 Posted August 4, 2012 (edited) You guys are the ones crying "it's just a game!" and tearing up at the notion that there's more to sandboxes than tearing up castles. The creative people are getting to the point of trying to throw the sand into others eyes to show that there's more to the world, and the DMers just go around bawling about how they don't have anywhere else to go that's fun.Well, it's called Call of Duty.I think someone has been killed a few to many times.. Edited August 4, 2012 by Viles Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ivan keska 39 Posted August 4, 2012 How about this all off you are retarded and your opinions means nothing because they are wrong. Now since that's out of the way, stop discussing this issue without showing any kind of facts supporting your claim.So if you think people will just kill people in reality PROVE ITif you think people won't be slaughting one another but try to rebuild PROVE ITOther wise every thing you guys say is bullshit and holds zero value, because you have no creditable evidence to support you claim. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neo2157 21 Posted August 4, 2012 How about this all off you are retarded and your opinions means nothing because they are wrong. Now since that's out of the way, stop discussing this issue without showing any kind of facts supporting your claim.So if you think people will just kill people in reality PROVE ITif you think people won't be slaughting one another but try to rebuild PROVE ITOther wise every thing you guys say is bullshit and holds zero value, because you have no creditable evidence to support you claim.Oh lawdy, have you ever studied history? the fact that Our ancestors didn't resort to slaughtering each other to extinction and instead began to build society back when we were a bunch of tribes trying to survive wild life, disease, gather limited food/water, etc proves we wouldn't kill indiscriminately and for absolutely no reason like the COD kiddies do in this mod. Hell ill bet most of you guys wouldn't even know how to bandage yourself properly without someone else's help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
{N3RD2} HazardousJJ 15 Posted August 4, 2012 Killing unarmed players is a terrible gameplay tactic when surrounded by zombies that try to eat you. They may have supplies but two people with supplies are better than one. If you both have a primary/secondary weapon, thats two people that have each others back. Why people choose to shoot-on-site and be a major ass I don't know but there is no way - unless it's in self-defense or the player is setting a trap - that shooting someone is a good idea. Say what you will, but killing harmless players is messed up. That doesn't mean that you can't fully trust them but as a survivor, I know what it's like. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Junos 57 Posted August 4, 2012 The reason people kill others so much is because there's no penalty to it. If your character could get some sort of 'shock' from a random killing, it'd be different. Maybe your character will start shaking after he kills someone, and if it continues at times he'll refuse to pull the trigger when you shoot. Now that'd be an interesting system...You might like this suggestion: http://dayzmod.com/forum/index.php?/topic/43889-uneasiness-around-other-survivors-for-excessive-murders/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ivan keska 39 Posted August 4, 2012 Oh lawdy, have you ever studied history? the fact that Our ancestors didn't resort to slaughtering each other to extinction and instead began to build society back when we were a bunch of tribes trying to survive wild life, disease, gather limited food/water, etc proves we wouldn't kill indiscriminately and for absolutely no reason like the COD kiddies do in this mod. Hell ill bet most of you guys wouldn't even know how to bandage yourself properly without someone else's help.I was making the point nearly everyone here is taking out of there ass, and not in the least bit presenting anything that proves them right.But your right most people wouldn't know how to bandage themselves in real life, and some if shot would go full retard I bet and believe they have to get the bullet out.But note how societies did form but we are are still in a way separate, we generally group with people who are similar to ourselves. If you google it a bit, you might find the video I say done with very young children and two stuffed animals. Both animals were he exact same except one like a snack the kids liked and the other liked the snack the kids didn't like. An deven thou both animals acted the same and looked the same the kids always wanted to be friends with the one that liked their snack.There is more to it but that sums it up for the most part. Anyways kinda says a lot about the herd mentality we have as a species. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SirSlayer 14 Posted August 5, 2012 (edited) Oh lawdy, have you ever studied history? the fact that Our ancestors didn't resort to slaughtering each other to extinction and instead began to build society back when we were a bunch of tribes trying to survive wild life, disease, gather limited food/water, etc proves we wouldn't kill indiscriminately and for absolutely no reason like the COD kiddies do in this mod. Hell ill bet most of you guys wouldn't even know how to bandage yourself properly without someone else's help.Do you mind explaining every war in history now ?Killing unarmed players is a terrible gameplay tactic when surrounded by zombies that try to eat you.But that is just because the AI is retarded.If it would be better it would go for the downed player making a "sure kill". Edited August 5, 2012 by SirSlayer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoogSta 12 Posted August 5, 2012 Because they need painkillers and bandages. Or there flashlight is out of batteries Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SirSlayer 14 Posted August 5, 2012 Or there flashlight is out of batteriesMake flashlight battery charged, include zombies which can be repelled by light. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Virfortis 111 Posted August 5, 2012 Do you mind explaining every war in history now ?Which one was a mass every man for himself free for all that featured no factions fighting for nothing but the enjoyment of killing one another? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flying Mathias 18 Posted August 5, 2012 I hate murderers. They're griefers. You see them in every online game, they're the people in WoW who will sit around a low-level zone with a max level character to get free kills and boost their ego.I don't hate bandits. The people who kill you because you actually have something on you of worth to them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SirSlayer 14 Posted August 5, 2012 Which one was a mass every man for himself free for all that featured no factions fighting for nothing but the enjoyment of killing one another?Which one was after a zombie apocalypse?Which one was because one single king wanted something and his army worked for him as his "right hand"? Methaphorically speaking 1 king vs 1 king ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lysander_of_Sparta 43 Posted August 5, 2012 Well, usually it's either because they get freaked out by someone running in front of them.ORRR, they discovered how much fun it is to snipe people. I usually prefer sniping people who can shoot back, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SirSlayer 14 Posted August 5, 2012 I just tried going into a town, unarmed getting instant headshots by the first person.Now I remember why I'm the sadistic clusterfuck I am :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Larce 8 Posted August 5, 2012 WHY?!?!?!Cause I can do evil shit like this: *evil laugh* 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
damonsub@gmail.com 0 Posted August 5, 2012 some people just want to watch the world burn :C Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Larce 8 Posted August 5, 2012 some people just want to watch the world burn :C Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonahcutter 51 Posted August 5, 2012 There is little reason for players to interact with each other outside of shooting each other. Supplies, weapons and ammo are abundant, and the zombies are a nuisance at best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites