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Loot inflation.. what can be done?

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Over the past month or so "loot inflation" as I call it has become pretty terrible, almost every single person I kill has full kitted gear with an as50/some other high tier military gun... even in Cherno and Elektro, you constantly find fully kitted players sniping people off the silos/hill at Elektro.

It used to be you would be very lucky to find a pair of NVGs/a GPS/As50 and so on but now there is just so many of them they are almost worthless - me and a mate raided the northern part of the map last night for camps and ended up coming out with so much gear (6 pairs of NVGs/GPS/huge amount of crashed heli guns) that we left more than half of the stuff behind.. also used to take me days to get geared up again, now I can simply visit the hill at elektro or the NWAF, kill a single person and it's likely they will have everything I will ever need.

I personally don't find the game as fun anymore because of this, I think it would be great if once duping/hacking is a bit more controlled that there was an item wipe (Most likely already going to happen once it hits beta) and things such as crashed helicopters were made much more rare, as in one per server restart compared to half a dozen. Perhaps even remove the extremely high tier stuff like AS50s/L85 thermal which gives people a huge advantage such as seeing everything for miles around and blowing up helicopters in a single, well placed hit

Thoughts??

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Bad news, fixing the duping is currently impossible.

We would have to wait an engine fix for this.

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New engine basically, in other words not any time soon

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Bad news, fixing the duping is currently impossible.

We would have to wait an engine fix for this.

Well even then, I really feel like loot inflation got out of hand when crashed helicopters were fixed and started spawning loot again rather than from duping.. is some of it from duping? Yeah sure, but the vast majority of players I have seen are not willing to dupe. There is still the problem of them looting people they kill that are dupers but I really feel like the main contributing problem here is crashed helicopters and how common they are, they spawn NVGs quite often along with the high tier military stuff and there is normally at least 6 per server restart, all having multiple spawn locations. If you know where to look it's incredibly easy to find almost all of the ones in a server within 30 minutes, quicker with a vehicle.

I suppose it's really a combination of everything but it's gotten pretty out of hand..

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As others have said i think its mostly a duping problem, rather then an inflation problem. but i do believe i seen a post saying that duping methods are being worked on and should be fixed soon.

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I used to play CoH, and from time to time the community would call for a ladder wipe, to set the game back to the beginning so everyone would have the fun of building up their stats again and racing for the top level.

I think it may be time to wipe game again, so everyone spawns on the coast with nothing, and all the tents and gear is gone.

I also think it would be a great idea if a tent/vehicle saved by you disappears the second you die, and goes back to its spawn location broken.

It kills perma death if I can stash a vehicle with some good loot somewhere, then when I die dash over to it and get fully kitted out again.

I suspect this is the reason many are bored.

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Well even then, I really feel like loot inflation got out of hand when crashed helicopters were fixed and started spawning loot again rather than from duping.. is some of it from duping? Yeah sure, but the vast majority of players I have seen are not willing to dupe. There is still the problem of them looting people they kill that are dupers but I really feel like the main contributing problem here is crashed helicopters and how common they are, they spawn NVGs quite often along with the high tier military stuff and there is normally at least 6 per server restart, all having multiple spawn locations. If you know where to look it's incredibly easy to find almost all of the ones in a server within 30 minutes, quicker with a vehicle.

I suppose it's really a combination of everything but it's gotten pretty out of hand..

No but the problem is people who dont dupe still kill people who do and take their weapons, its just an endless cycle.

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I am a huge duper myself and have perfected the forbidden arts. That said the game would be much better if they fixed it, and there is a way to do that without changing the engine: make it impossible to put major weapons in backpacks. Maybe have them take up 25 slots, or just get rid of the bigger backpacks. this won't solve duping NVGs (they shoiuld be taken out of the game anyway), ghillies, etc etc... but it will solve the biggest problem which is duping machineguns and sniper rifles.

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